glenn pewit covered the kiersten law about a case for the las vegas review. the active theory recording prosecutors and police was the misl bato had had an interaction with mr bailey that was sexual in nature he had lured her into a sexual encounter for the purposes of drugs and for giving her some methamphetamine and then he didn't have any mouth and that this induced kind of a meth psychosis that caused her to completely snap and become extremely violent and engage in what is so commonly referred to as overkill the prosecution had a strong point of view regarding the circumstances and the motive for the crime but the case is riddled with inconsistences you start simply with the. with the basics of the case you have this crime scene this is a cinder block area behind a bank they find a body of a man. and he had been brutally murdered. right about here they found six of his teeth. right here they found a pool of blood where is carotid artery had been cut underneath him here they found a pool of blood because somebody had stuck a knife in his rectum they had a

and charged kiersten. with murder. our next case is a textbook example of how police officers can use extreme tactics to coerce a confession out of a suspect in a murder case and how prosecutors can develop tunnel vision and ignore the facts and fight tooth and nail against reopening a case. usually a false confession involves a completely made up story in which people are just looking to get out of a very threatening situation some will say anything thinking they can fix it later but there's no fixing it later they're stuck with these statements and these statements are used against them in a court of law. in the fall of one thousand nine hundred nine the town of peekskill new york was stunned by the brutal murder and rape of a fifteen year old girl named angela correia. the investigation confession and eventual conviction of a sixteen year old student named jeffrey deskovic has shaken up the justice system here all these years later. i already over a letter of well thanks for helping me so i wanted to look at some of

. >> host: to know kiersten nelson at all? >> guest: no. >> host: what were your successes when you're there from 2009 till 2013? >> guest: one is tsa free check. the other is daca. 700,000 young people brought to this country of as children at the average age of six. they grew appear in only know this country is home. we created a program where they could remain not be fearful of being picked up for immigration and get a work permit. >> host: what was your expertise, dennis governor of arizona? >> i had expertise with the border and with immigration enforcement. i had expertise in relation with fema because the fema relationship was primarily the state local government. while i was governor of arizona we had floats, major forest fires. i had all of those capabilities coming into the job. what i didn't have was the international relations experience. i took that on and learn to live very rapidly. >> what you wish you could have gotten done? >> i wish we could've gotten technology so the people could bring liquids and keep thei

kiersten nielsen, we've been saying her name a lot these days.'s justifying family separation by saying there's a huge jump in smugglers and gang members using kids unrelated to them to try to get inside the u.s. but i hope you're watching miss nielsen. for fact's sake, you need to know context. here is what secretary nielsen said at yesterday's white house briefing. >> in the last five months we've had 314% increase in adults and children arriving at the border fraudulently claiming to be a family unit. >> come on, now. "the washington post" points out this is actually a tiny fraction of the families apprehended during that time period. in 2017 there were 46 cases where people falsely claimed the children they were with were theirs. in the first five months of fiscal year 2018, there was 191 of these cases which is an increase of 315%. those numbers sound big, right? here's where the context couldn't be more important. in the first five months of this fiscal year, more than 31,000 families were an he rended at the border. wi if we know 191 of th

the president says kiersten nielsen says, this is fake news.on't believe these pictures that they're showing you. and i'm trying to tell our audience, the white house is giving us 17 different reasons why they're putting forth this policy. i cannot get inside one of those centers. i'm going to leave texas not having seen a single one of the girls. you, mrs. trump can come down to texas and hold these children and see them. you can make a difference. this is about humanity. if being best is your platform, i please ask you to do just that. midsize car-the chevy malibu. i forgot. chevy also won a j.d. power dependability award for its light-duty truck the chevy silverado. oh, and since the chevy equinox and traverse also won chevy is the only brand to earn the j.d. power dependability award across cars, trucks and suvs-three years in a row. phew. third time's the charm... every day we hear from families who partnered with a senior living advisor from a place for mom to help find the perfect place for their mom or dad thank you so much for your ass

kiersten jell-o brand --.en on capitol hill, here's a bit of her comment. >> a lot of ideas in this country are dark ideas, building walls, dividing the country, marginalizing members, kids who are transgender, not supporting daca kids, these come from the darkness, ripping children from their mothers arms, that is outrageous. shannon: a lot of people say she is genuine and her faith and feeling she's calling these things out for what they are. these ideas were called evil. what do you say? >> she may be sincere but she is sincerely wrong. to characterize the president's actions as evil to me is absolutely outrageous. romans chapter 13 does say god instituted government to maintain order and punish those who commit evil. to call the president evil for simply doing what god has given him the responsibility of doing, protecting our borders is outrageous. we ought to celebrate a president like donald trump rather than denigrate this president for doing everything he can to fulfill his god-given responsibility and

democratic socialists of america surrounding kiersten nielsen last night. they heckled her w asking hert she was going to do to stop the separation of children from thei familiet the southern border and back out live no comment from her as she was heckled by the protesters. the manager of that restaurant also did not comment either. gain on time we do know capitol hill they're working on some kind of solution as the administration now faces opposition appareny on all sides to do something about what'soing on at the southern border. live forutside the capital. i'm justin finch. >>> it's 5:06. >> another move by thehite house is drawing criticism. the united statess withdrawing from the human rights council. they say the council is ignoring human rights abuses and allowing some of the worst abusers to join. >> i wano make it crystal clear, this is not a retreat from human trights. contrary, we take this step because our commitmen does t allow us to remain a part of a hypocrite cal and self-serving organization that makes a mockery h ofan rights. op the announ

>>omeland securityecretary kiersten neilson faced protesters while she ate dinner. this is after they hold back f troom the border in opposition to the zero tolerance policy. >> news 4's justin finch is live s.th deta justin? >> reporter: aaron, eun, good morning. for so many the crisis ahe border has been too much to take. the sights, sounds, coming out of there. we can tell you at this time there are calls for action from bothll parties on capitol o do something. add that to the growing pressure from the public to take actio and now w have our local governors who are sounding off. we got this yesterdnay o twitter from maryland governor larry hogan who is a republic. he is saying this, until this policy of separating children from their families, maryland will noteploy any national ard crews to the border. hours later virginia governor ralph northam signed in and he is a democrat. he's recalling four national guard helicopters and one from another boarder area. back out wide, we can tell youg rnor northam did say once the policy is phased out he will return those a

cecelia vega, abc news, the white house. >>> meanwhile, the president is praising kiersten neilson sayingestions about his zero-tolerance policy. >> but she was heckled last night as she dined at a mexican restaurant in d.c. protesters from democratic socialists of america blasting her for defending the policy. >> shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame, shame! >> so again, neilson picked a mexican restaurant during all of this to dine in d.c. the homeland security spokesman tweeted that neilson has been working with congress for months to find a solution, and he invited the protesters to ask lawmakers to close the legal loopholes. i can tell you that restaurant, mxdc, is really, really good. not like just on taco tuesday good. they have a lobster corn guacamole. i can understand anybody wanting to go there, no matter what sort of pressure you might get. >> i see. now we know where to get the best guacamole in d.c. according to kendis gibson. >> lobster corn guacamole. >>> and the united states is the first to ever voluntarily withdraw from the u.n. human rights council. nikki haley anno

now with the white house under fire, homeland security secretary kiersten nelson joining the defenseave you seen the photos of children in cages? have you heard the audio clip of these children wailing that just came out today? >> i have not seen something that came out today. but i have been to detention centers, and again, i would reference you to our standards, to the care provided not just by the department of homeland security but the department of health and human services. >> reporter: is that the image of this country that you want? >> the image i want of this country is a system that upholds our borders and our humanitarian ideals. congress needs to fix it. >> reporter: and president trump heads to capitol hill to discuss legislation with lawmakers. and the white house says the president does not want a band-aid fix. but immigration has vexed washington, d.c. for so many years there's no indication this time it will be different. >> we are now hearing from some children that are separated by their parents. >> among them, foster parents in michigan named carl and jen. they as

while the president was on the hill kiersten nielsen faced protesters while she ate dinner at a restaurant in d.c. >> 145i78. shame. shame. shame. >> the democratic socialists of america posted this video on facebook. protesters h surrounde table for at least a minute before walking away. nielsen did not appr to respond. she was later seen being escorted to an suv. secret service confirmed that they responded to a restaurant. monday nielsen defended the trump admistration's polic of separating children from their parents. >> here's the bottom line, dhs is no longer ignoring the laws. we are eorcing the laws as they belong on the books. as long as illryal e remains a criminal event, dhs will no longer look theer way. president trump said secretary nielsen did a fabulous job quote, explaining security at the border and our country while at the same time recommending changes to obsolete and family laws which force separatirt. we want hnd security in america. >>> angryat protestorshered in the city of btherly love. mike pence was at a fund-raiser for scott wagner. protesters chanted and held u

we hearday tod from kiersten nielson, he homeland secu secretary who said this is a coreng issnafilx.io exactly right. that's exactly right becauseoo it's a l hole that gives preferences to families. so people, they create fake families to ent the united states knowing they will be released. >> is that the excepti or the rule? >> that is the exception. pbut it's something that does happen. again, i've brancticing for 14 years. i recommend 2-year-olds, three-year-olds, four-year-olds, 11-year-olds that don't h they separate from being easons so-called parents is to prove the authentication then i hear stories that's not. i don't know that person, that's some t that united states isor responsibl safety and well-being of the children. >> ted cruz prosed es, also, would expedite the time there a problem right now at large in the current climate whereeo it seem pe were trying to cross the border illegally and trying toluame asy sort of getting mixed up and it's being cond, flatte this is precisely what's happening and one of the statisticses that was published we anticate 250,000 children by

. >> reporter: and kiersten nielsen took to twitter saying, we have continued the policy from previous administrations and what only separate if the child is in danger or if there is no custodial relationship between family members or if they have broken the law. the goal is to do tour -- detour illegal border crossings. a truck ejected 12 people killing at least five. i am melissa rainey reporting. >>> and there was a candlelight vigil outside city hall in san carlos. they called the event solidarity with families on father's day. nancy pelosi will visit the u.s. mexico border in california today. she wants to see the impact administration's efforts to crack down onthofe illegal immigration there. >>> in gaining control and grass fires in alameda county. they are 90% contained. at one point they burned close to the highway. >> the fire on the back ridge earned so close to 84 that at one time both lanes had to be shut down to allow fire equipment to get in to fight the fire. fire trucks, helicopters, bulldozers and fire crews converged on the hill. >> we had two separate fires burning.

what she's saying about kiersten nielsen.he had forgotten about a meeting with a russian who offered dirt on hillary clinton in exchange for millions of dollars. what suddenly jogged his memory? we'll discuss that next. ♪ hey allergy muddlers: are you one sneeze away from being voted out of the carpool? try zyrtec® zyrtec® starts working hard at hour one and works twice as hard when you take it again the next day. stick with zyrtec®. muddle no more®. and try children's zyrtec® for consistently powerful relief of your kid's allergies. >>> now to a major development in the russia investigation. another trump campaign member met with a russian to get dirt on hillary clinton, and former campaign advisor roger stone admits he failed to bring it up when he testified before the house intelligence committee. who set up the meeting for roger stone, michael kaputo. josh green and tara setmayer is back with us. it's like, the list is growing of these undisclosed meetings, right, between the trump folks and the russians. >> >> tell me ab

we just saw the homeland security secretary kiersten nielson.er husband are quietly sitting there at dinner. i thought they were going to get attacked when i first saw it. is this the new normal. >> i hope not. i don't think we want to go down this road because i can understand -- even though i don't agree with everyone, i can understand why people would've strong reactions to donald trump's policies. however, there are strong reactions on the other side, you know? there are a lot of people who feel strongly about abortion, about the civil war in syria, and the obam obama administration's complicity. what if they start meeting out the same behavior? i don't think that's a path we want to go down. cheryl: i can tell you the wall street journal very interesting op-ed that came out. i was actually on the air this morning when you released it. and the op-ed was how to reelect trump. >> right. cheryl: it was a great point that you all made. the political left is repeating the mistake as its cultural and political vanguard hostility and now. may end u

last week dhs secretary kiersten nell se nielsen was hed out of a restaurt. >> thewner of the red hen in lexington considers the trump adminiration "inhumane and unethical." maryland congressman elijah cummings is one ofghe few democrats s the restaurant should have served sanders although he added he believes that president trump created the environment for hostilityo exist. californiaat congresswoman maxiers took a different approach. >> l's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up d if youee anybody from that cabinet in a restaurant, in a departmentre, at a gas lease station, yogasoline st and you create a crowd and you push backn them a you tell them that they are not welcome. >> also wanted to note that the resta tant ins story should not be confused withn the rein d.c. that restaurant is affiliated with the virginia location and says it will serve everyone. >>riomorrow is pry day in maryland andy n19,000 of you could face problems voting cause of a clerical error. ste election leaders say there was a computer glitch with people who went to the motor vehicle web site or k

j b f o many in is kiersten the bad as new york based defense attorney how they're going for you know one thing i'm j.b. also oh marlon isn't it i mean if you guys are going to be good i'm really interested in talking about this case is fascinated me for a while and i've done a lot of cases that involve false confessions but but this one has a really special twist to this crucial point out in this case that there was not even a false confession there was not a confession at all. kirstin plays a vital did not confess to this crime. instead lobato claims she was raped in a parking lot in las vegas and defended herself by stabbing her attacker she told the counselor about the incident. when a homeless man named duran bailey was found dead and mutilated in a dumpster on the other side of town the counselor called las vegas homicide. detectives came to her house she thought the near question her about her being a victim of a rape attempted rape violent now a suspect in a murder case she was led to believe by their silence they're talking of the same case that one of the biggest travesties

this executive order is that it is being drafted by the department of homeland security secretary kiersten nielson she's really been the face of this policy in recent days and essentially what it's going to do is address the separation issue because the feeling of this administration is although it has been trying to press for congress to act because you have to remember in the united states this white house in force is laws it's congress that makes the laws and donald trump of pushing for them to do their job they've been dragging their heels it's safe to say for more than a decade when it comes to immigration reform so in the interim this executive order is expected to end the separation policy we understand that the children who currently have been separated from their families instead these family units be kept together potentially house either by the department of homeland security or even the department of defense now in the midst of this what they're saying is they don't have the faith of congress to do their job so they're going to be signing this executive order we believe approxi

instead, they've had secretary kiersten nielson, the head of homeland security, be the face of this policy. she's been out there. she did the briefing on monday. i think it's interesting that you have some republicans calling on him to fire miller. i would note that kaufman is one of the most vulnerable republicans up for re-election. so it's not entirely a surprise there. he also signed this discharge petition to force action on immigration. but i think you could see more republicans call for some changes, particularly with miller within the administration if this crisis is not truly solved. >> julia, let me play for you what attorney general jeff sessionsid in an interview after the president signed that executive order on thursday. let's listen. >> it hasn't been good. and the american people don't like the idea that we are separating families. we never really intended to do that. what we intended to do was to make sure that adults who bring children into the country are are charged with the crime they've committed. instead of giving that special group of adults immunity from prosecutio

. >>> let's talk about that, but i also want to show you kiersten nielsen. this is secretary of homeland security i guess rapidly responding to laura bush. let's watch. >> for many in the press, in congress and advocacy groups over the last few weeks, that we at d.h.s. are intentionally doing things that are unhumanitarian, that are cruel, immoral and disgraceful. we are doing none of those things. it is important to note that these minors are very well taken care of. don't believe the press. >> i'm sorry, how about believing -- >> believe you? >> how about our own eyes. laura bush or secretary nielsen, i'm going with laura bush. ouvriere government should not be in the business of warehousing children in conslerted box stores or making plans to place them in tent cities in a desert. >> okay. so, don't believe the press reports. as our colleague jacob has been out there and reported, i believe last week, gave us the narrative of being informed by the officials there to smile at the children so that way you can show them they're not animals. okay. if they're

clinton was asked about comments by new york senator kiersten gillibrand who said last fall that he shouldped down because of the lewinsky scandal. >> well, i just disagree with her. i think you have to really ignore what the context was. but, you know, she's living in a different context and she did it for different reasons. >> reporter: in a tweet today, lewinsky did not respond to mr. clinton directly but said she's grateful to people who have helped her evolve. last fall she told "cbs this morning" that the years since the affair have been difficult. >> you know, there were many times over the last two decades when i wasn't sure i would make it. >> reporter: in that interview, mr. clinton says he likes the "me too" movement, calling it "way overdue," but he added, "i still have some questions about some of the decisions which have been made." jeff? >> glor: all right, ed o'keefe, thanks. up next here, will an f.b.i. agent face charges for a nightclub stunt that left a bystander wounded? charges for a nightclub stunt that left a bystander wounded? o. and made old cars good as new. but i

representatives and call a harris senator and democratic senator are calling for the resignation of kiersten nielson the department of homeland security secretary kucing her of essentially not being transparent to the american public and also enforcing policies that are a violation they allege of international human rights law can really help thank you very much. the german chancellor angela merkel has called for a joint european approach to immigration she's been holding talks with the french president emmanuel mccall ahead of a crucial you summit next week america is under intense pressure of the issue a coalition partners the c.s.u. have given her two weeks to achieve an e.u. wide deal or they'll take action to reverse her open door policy on refugees but your view of yes some of those migration is a common challenge and the reasons for migration have to be removed we need to work towards peace in countries that are involved in war like syria and even ukraine we also need to help with development aid for african countries we need to act in a coordinated fashion that is often very difficul

are members of the trumpet ministration defending the practice particularly the homeland security kiersten nielson secretary she's in fact saying that if you don't like this then change the laws and that is essentially where things are right now what this is shaping up to be is it an election issue in november for control of the u.s. congress but the campaigning has already started this is once again the political football between the democrats republicans pointing their fingers about who's to blame for a situation that really has been spiraling downward getting worse with regard to immigration for almost two decades important republicans are also critical of the policy of separating migrant families on the border but will trump continue to dig his heels in. i think so certainly this is how donald trump operates he goes there if you will he says what shouldn't be said he forces the issue there are some in the united states that are optimistic that by pushing this further than it's ever gone before by using the nuclear option of separating children from their families that it might get the

host: here are some tweets from secretary houston nielsen, the ,hs -- terry kiersten nielsen the dhs secretary. the miss by members, press and advocacy groups must stop. it is irresponsible and unproductive. if you are seeking asylum for your family, there is no reason to break the law and enter illegally. you're not breaking the law by seeking asylum at the port of entry. we do not have a policy of separating families at the border, period. seeking asylum, we have continued the policy from previous administrations and will only separated child is in danger, there is no custodial relationship between family members, or if the adult is not present." don't --true that they there isn't necessarily a policy that says children must be separated from the parents. the separations are a result of this zero-tolerance, sort of a byproduct. but it is sort of, there's a lot of prospective or tweets on that because it is a sort of de facto policy. host: george in columbus, new jersey. independent. good morning. caller: good morning. basically a to say lot of billionaires have come out in favor of

separately but bill clinton has gotten away with this for 20 years and to see terry mcauliffe and kierstene should have resigned and acted differently and should have apologized 20 years too late, a testament to the fact the clintons are no longer politically healthy. >> much bigger -- >> we will have you come back becausthis issue is not going away, thank you for your time. new ambassador to germany under fire for saying in an interview he wants to empower europeans antiestablishment politicians, reaction from european socialists, much more in where in the world next. ♪ libu. i forgot. chevy also won a j.d. power dependability award for its light-duty truck the chevy silverado. oh, and since the chevy equinox and traverse also won chevy is the only brand to earn the j.d. power dependability award across cars, trucks and suvs-three years in a row. phew. third time's the charm... >> time for where in the world. us ambassador to journey facing backlash after saying he wants to empower antiestablishment conservatives to rise up against elites. that rounded up the germans who want him to clari

heaviest tracks, $50,000 per month of illegal crossings in the last three months and that is why kierstenat the white house defending the policy and what they are doing here. >> this entire crisis is not new. it has been occurring over many decades but currently it is the product of loopholes in federal immigration laws that prevent illegal immigrant minors and family members from being detained and removed to their home country. >> reporter: those loopholes are important, the first is a traffic convention act, george w. bush, the second, the asylum policy, claims are up 1700%, the third going back to 1997 by bill clinton and that is why the president says this is in the name of safety and he points that the democrats to blame. >> it is very strongly the democrats fault. they are obstructionist. the united states will not be a migrant camp and it will not be a refugee holding facility. we went safety and we went security for our country. >> reporter: the images we see our heart wrenching, many as families were separated, the processing center behind me, democrats like nancy pelosi, jumped

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states called for an zero tolerance policy, in a letter to jeff sessions and home and secretary kiersten nielsen, they said this practice is contrary to american values and must be stopped, we demand that you immediately reverse these harmful policies in the best interest of the children and families affected. at least eight states are withdrawing their national guard troops from the border to protest family separation, they include new york, pennsylvania, massachusetts and colorado. those dates are among those that responded to president trump's call for help on the border a few months ago. both democratic and republican governors are pushing back. >> children are being separated from the parents, and cruel, unnecessary, i would say un- american ways.>> we told the national guard to hold steady, and not go to the border,., so we will not be supporting the initiative, unless they change it.>> so far, california has not withdrawn national guard troops, governor jerry brown's office said it would not be a missio women escaping violence better life, and the california national guard would n

and kiersten nielsen on the whole. they couldn't close the deal, they start with a deficit in the house of representatives, they can only lose there are 6 to 10 republicans who won't that for any immigration bill because they were afraid they would be portrayed as quoting for amnesty. no bill yet. >> the goodlatte build it and make it today. >> it got 193 votes but that shocked people. the handicappers that it would get 165, 170. it got a lot more. this bill is going to fail, good political yes vote but some people wonder if republican leaders put the emphasis on the wrong salvo. that bill could pass. the conservative bill does not grant a path to citizenship and does not provide direct funding for the border wall. the one they did not bring up does the opposite. it does provide $25 billion in cold hard cash for the border wall and a path to citizenship. 193 votes, we think that means most of the republican conference is more for blocking the path to citizenship than building the border wall. >> two members will join u

last week homeland security secretary kiersten nielsen was booed out of a mexican restaurant in washingtonc. say theyuthorities will release the results of their presidential and parliamentary elections on july 5 rather than this friday as originally scheduled. 26 million of the rusty -- of the roughly 50 million cast were for erdogan. european union lawmakers have voted for launching action against hungary over allegations that prime minister the door upon -- prime minster viktor government has concerns about the harsh treatment of migrants in hungary. hungary could lose eu voting rights. global news 24 hours a day, on air and on tictoc, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. disputese trade between the united states and china has been limited to --iffs on good so far, but on good so far, but that is expected to change this week. we welcome now representative tim ryan of ohio. whether it is goods or investment, go back to youngstown, go back to akron, your home base. is this adding jobs or taking jobs away? rep. ryan: it is hard t

earlier this week, senator harris amended the resignation of homeland security secretary kiersten nielsenecause of the controversial policy of separating families. >>> a berkeley city councilman will join the protesters today outside of an eye's office -- i.c.e. office in san francisco. despite the recent executive order that ends these separations from the present, the plan to return all the children to the families is still very unclear. today's protest is scheduled to begin at 4:30 in front of the i.c.e. office. >>> 6:06. there is a stalemate in congress over the immigration reform. >> liaison 195. the needs are 231. -- the yeas are 195. the maze -- nays are 235. >> the problem is we don't have the facilities for the capacity to criminally prosecute large numbers of people for doing this. we don't have the detention facilities. we don't have the immigration courts. we don't have the federal courts to do it.. the defense department says it's been asked to provide up to 20,000 temporary beds for immigrant families at four military bases in texas, and in arkansas. >>> a man is behind bars

earlier this week, senator harris demanded the resignation of kiersten nielsen. >>> 100 feet and community leaders will go to the san diego area to protest the separation of families at the border. about half the demonstrators are boarding a bus in san francisco's mission district. they will -- in the meantime, a group of san mateo county women is flying from sfo today to south texas where some of the children who have been separated from their parents are being detained. they spent the past few days packing and preparing for that trip. they will distribute donations in the border city of mcallen, texas. clothes, toys, and gift cards. >> i was thinking about how many children are in those places with nobody to just pat their hair and make sure they know that it's not an awful place to be in this world. >> the women will deliver their donations to catholic charities. that he had came after -- the idea after -- came after -- >>> there is a stalemate over the issue of immigration. usually the house of representatives voted down one immigration bill and delayed the boat on another. ktvu's jana

bill clinton responded to senator kiersten gillibrand.he said he should have stepped down after the monica lewinsky scandal. >> the tolerance we had 25 years ago, what was allowed 25 years ago will not be tolerated today, is not allowed today, and that we have to have the kind of oversight and accountability society needs so we can protect people in the workplace, so people can function without having an unsafe work environment. >> so you're saying if bill clinton were president today and those incidents were unfolding today -- >> it would be a very different conversation, exactly. >> well, i disagree with her. i think, you know, you have to really ignore what the context was. but, you know, she's living in a different context and she did it for different reasons, so i -- but i just disagree with her. >> he said that the contexts were different. but given what we know now and the way this movement has unfolded, should bill clinton have resigned over the monica lewinsky scandal? >> this was 25 years ago, it was different standards. i think

knock on kiersten nielsen's door? >> reporter: well, hi, skefn stephanie. there's a lot of skepticism on the ground on whether this is unrealistic. as we've been speaking with migrant families, they're having difficult time not just reaching the children by phone, but alsoven knowing where they are. we spoke with a woman this week at a shelter here in el paso. she was separated from her son on his sixth birthday. and even though she was from detention over the last several days in el paso here, she now only believes that her son is in a shelter in arizona. she only knows that byking with other nafamily members. she's had a difficult time getting ahold of him. we spoke to her about her ordeal. take a listen. how desperate are you? >> translator: she says it was the ultimate terror that she didn't know where her son was going, who her son was with, where he'd be taken. she says it was ultimate terror. >> reporter: and she says the policy of family separation was cruel. now, we should say, ali, and steph, as you've reported more than 2000 children, hhs says ar

. >> liz: florida protests and heated rhetoric continues for homeland security secretary kiersten nielsen, confronted by protesters when she was eating at a mexican restaurant. today protesters gathered outside her home in virginia. joining me now is steve hilton, host of "the next revolution." what's your take on the border rhetoric here? >> i think what we're seeing now is just an extreme version of something that i've observed ever since i've been working in politics, going back a long time. on the left when they disagree with you, they don't just say you're wrong, they say you're morally wrong, they say you're evil. it's a tactic of the left. what we're seeing now is that escalated to such a level of hate and anger that it makes reasonable conversation about what's the right policy on immigration or the border almost impossible because you literally can't say anything without being denounced as we've seen all week as a nazi for saying anything other than open borders. and it's just simila impossiblee a sensible conversation. i don't know what's going to happen to change this. the ange

that question was answered in the white house briefing room by the homeland security secretary, chr kiersten nerstjen nielsen who s wasn't a policy, they were enforcing the law. she called on congress again and again and again to fix it. she was asked repeatedly about what she thought of the blow back from this, particularly from laura bush first and foremost. she said she can speak her mind and she's glad they are drawing attention to this problem. but congress needs to fix it. that was the answer again and again. congress needs to fix this. wolf, we also asked the secretary directly whether some of the images we are seeing, the sounds we are hearing from the detention centers with the fences, constitute child abuse. this is what she said. how is this not child abuse? >> be more specific, please. enforcing the law? >> the images and the sounds we have seen from these big box stores, the walmarts, when you see this, how is this not specifically child abuse for these innocent children who are being separated from their parents? >> i want to be clear on a couple other things. the vast majority

last week dhs secretary kiersten nielsen was hkled out of a restaurant. >> sarah huckabee sanders wassked to leavetaurant in virginia. the owner of the red hen considers t themp administration inhumane and unethical ijah cummings says he believes the restaurant should >>> maxine waters took a different approach. >> let's make sure we show up erever we have to show úand if you see anybody from that cabinet in a restaur at, in department a store, at gasoline station,ou get out and you create a crowd. acand you push b on them. and you tel them they not welcome. >> now, please ne this restaurant in this story should not be confused with c.e red hen that's here ind. that restaurant is unaffiliated with the virginia location and says it will >> ♪e everyone. >> 5:zero six. let's get a check of the forecast with mike thomas and the road conditions with erin como. >> how was your weekend. >>ood. >> saturday started off dreary and sun broke out right at the of the d >> it was great. >> evening was great. >> nats game was beautiful. >> oh, good. they gott in on saturday night. excellent. and ear

that's what kiersten kneel son has been saying behind the scenes. >> joining me to talk about it tom cole of oklahoma. congressman, it's good to see you tonight. >> thank you, kasi >> thank you for being here. i want to show you some of the remarks that your colleagues, republican colleagues in the congress have had to say about this topic we've been discussing, separation of children from their families at the border. first paul ryan, the house speaker, and then senator lindsey graham. take a look and we'll talk about it. >> are you comfortable with the current zero tolerance policy ading to parents and children being separated at the border? >> no, i'm not. this is because our court ruling. >> mr. speaker, on that point, this is actually a policy change from the trump administration for zero tolerance -- >> and there is also a court ruling involved. this is somethinwe think should be -- >> religious leaders have come out and said this is inhumane. do you agree? >> we don't want kids to be separated from their parents. >> president trump could stop this policy with a phone call. if

kiersten nilsson, the department of homeland security reportedly even with kelly, the chief of staff,ot wanting to hold a news conference, she owned it yesterday. of course, sarah huckabee sanders, who has been standing with the president on family separation each they as she is in front of the podium. >> yes. i have read mixed things about kirstjen nielsen. i heard that she did not like this policy, but she is clearly standing up for it now after having tonight it existed just a -- having denied it existed just a few days ago. i think the former first ladies of both parties speaking out is an indication that all americans must be feeling this deep sense of cruelty and outrage. i took over judiciciary committe hearing last week that was about other bills when we should have been having a hearing on this. i s said, we are outraged. i have to believe there are good people on the other side. mothers and fathers who if they don't say something today, are going to have to go back to their children and explain why they did nothing as we put ls and t tore kenne them away from their mothers.

play a clip of kiersten gillibrand from new york, calling for the eliminate of i.c.e. >> i don't thinkc.e. today is working as intended. >> you think you should get rid of the agency? >> i believe it has been a deportation force. you should get rid of it, start over, reimagine it, and build something that actually works. >> the senator for new york calling for the eliminate of i.c.e. i want to get a sense of how many folks in congress echo what we're hearing from the senator from new york. >> it is not an overwhelming majority position among democrats yet. in fact, yesterday, my colleague, same stein and i, obtained talking points from the powerful congressional hispanic caucus. in the talking points, staffers made the case against abolishing i.c.e. what they said is that their caucus is focused, rather than on the law enforcement piece of the immigration conversation, they're focused on the policy piece. they want to see the laws themselves overhauled, rather thanasi a reorganization or retooling for the agency responsible for enforcing the laws. that said, over the last few months, q

last week dha secretary kiersten nlsen was heckled out of a restaurant. his phone number published. on saturday sarah huckabee sanders asked to leave restaurant. the owner considers the trump administration inhumane and. elijah cummings is one of the a fewin democrats say the restaurant should have served sanders. maxine waters took a differentet approach. 's make sure we show up wherever we have to show up and if you see anybody fro cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd.and you . and you tell them they are not welcome. >> so please note t restaurant in this story shouldn't be confused with the red hen in washington. the restaurant is unaffiliated with the virginia location and says it will serve everyone. >> nats serving up a. win time for the morning line ts of runs scored. nationals bhit the pies at tos park final score eight it was a daniel murphy two run t singlet was the gameci der last night. although, you know, lots of runs as we said back and forth in this one and murphy feeling

shannon, i have to point out the hypocrisy here of kiersten saying it's illegal to rip children out of their mother's arms. what about the evil of ripping children out of their mother's wombs after dismembering them through abortion? where's the outrage from the senator on that policy which her democrat party supports? to me this is selective outrage on the part of liberals. >> shannon: let's talk about the children at the border because people across the spectrum say this is a situation where all of us should have a heart and we should want there to be a solution. but when people from both sides through the bible into the discussion, it gets very heated. >> i think the bible does teach that we should show compassion wherever we are able to show compassion but, that needs to be a shared compassion. it is gut wrenching to see these children separated from their parents at the border. the only other thing more gut wrenching is to see children like tate steinle separated from their parents forever because they were killed by illegal immigrants or ms-13 gang members. so let's show compassi

>> senator kiersten gillibrand on the sudden silence from republicans on roe v. wade. >> that's a big one and probably not. they're all saying don't do that, you shouldn't do that. >>> plus, a preview of tomorrow's big protests against family separation. >>> and why the white house is scrambling to explain how a prank caller got through to air force one. >> your call is connected. >> hi, bob. >> hey, how are you? >> "all in starts now." >> thank you, bob, i'll talk to you soon. >> all right, baba booey to you. >>> good evening from new york, i'm ali velshi in for chris hayes. tonight, democrats are increasingly concerned the president could try to use his new supreme court pick to shield him from the mueller investigation. days after justice anthony kennedy announced his retirement, the white house and senate republicans are fast tracking kennedy's replacement. the president telling reporters on air force one today he's planning to announce his nominee in just over a week. >> so i'll be announcing it the monday after july 4. is that the 11th? i'm going to announc

she joins us now along with cnn political analyst kiersten powers. dana, first of all, you hear the president's explanation which obviously couldn't drakts the first lady's own spokeswoman. let's just tick through the other possible ways of interpreting this jacket. either tone deaf or trolling directed not at the news media but somewhere else or a staff who couldn't or wouldn't raise a red flag beforehand or perhaps a combination of all three. >> i think it's a combination of all three is the more likely of those scenarios. then there's just what we don't know which is obviously a lot. what we do know, anderson, as you very eloquently pointed out, was this was no question intended to sej a message. and the irony of this is that the message had a code ha tha has been so hard to crack that even the staff in the west wing and guess the east wing, the first lady's staff, have had mixed messages about what the coded message on her jacket could be. it would actually be comical if it weren't about the first lady completely stepping on the message that was

secretary kiersten nielsen had to say. >> we have to do our job. we will not apologize for doing our job. we have sworn to do this job. this message is simple. if you cross illegally, we will prosecute you. if you make a false claim, we will prosecute you. >> 0 e so, kasie, a little bit of preview of what we're going to hear from sarah sanders when she does, in fact, come to the podium. but bougttom line, i think she' going to get pressed on why 9 president doesn't do what lindsey graham says he can do which is end the policy now. the president says he hates the fact kids are getting separated from their parents, kasie. >> if he hates it so much, he could, as lindsey graham said, just pickup the phone. kristen welker at the white house for us. thank you very much. that brings this hour to a close for me. thank you for watching as always. "deadline white house" with my friend nicolle wallace starts right now. >> hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york. donald trump may finally be reaping what he has sowed by reducing every debate to black and white. goo

joined by his chief of staff john kelly, the deputy -- the department of homeland security secretary kiersten nrs niels nielsen. he is going into a meeting with some members from his own party who are openly rebuking the white house's response to that. this should get interesting. president trump defiant and defensive tonight amid public outcry over his administration's zero tolerance immigration policy. >> before going any further today, i want to take a moment to address something you have been reading a lot about. >> reporter: the outrage over children on the border being separated from their parents and kept in cages has consumed headlines. the white house insists this crisis is a problem for congress. >> politically correct or not, we have a country that needs security, that needs safety. those are the only two options, totally open borders or criminal prosecution for law breaking railrobreaking. i don't want children taken away from parents. >> reporter: but mounting an aggressive defense of the policy. >> when you prosecute the parents for coming in illegally, which should happen, you

>> senator kiersten gillibrand on the sudden silence from republicans on roe v.e. >> that's a big one and probably not. they're all saying don't do that, you shouldn't do that. >>> plus, a preview of