and if kiersten does not make his _ conference and if kiersten does not make his mark in the next five it is _ make his mark in the next five or six days, it is impossible to overstate _ six days, it is impossible to overstate how important this is because — overstate how important this is because it gets the prominence that the leader— because it gets the prominence that the leader of the opposition has no other— the leader of the opposition has no other occasion during the year and a less he _ other occasion during the year and a less he can — other occasion during the year and a less he can really cut to the public in the _ less he can really cut to the public in the next — less he can really cut to the public in the next week, hard to see how you have — in the next week, hard to see how you have no — in the next week, hard to see how you have no chance to do so. let stand on a _ you have no chance to do so. let stand on a cheerful image at least with angela merkel feeding the parents. you don't often see photos of angela merkel smiling, do you? you her looking rarely relaxed or wha

kiersten and stephanie worked there too. >> she's like, i need another job, do you know anything. i'm like come work at bodega. >> by february, 2017, reagan was months away from graduation. she made a difficult decision, she and her college boyfriend broke up. >> she was so heartbroken that week. >> they both really cared about each other, so it was hard but i think it was what was best for both of them. >> days later, on february 8th, she headed off for an evening shift at bodega. >> it was normal, just like, bye, have fun, or i'll see you later. >> like you had a million times before. >> exactly. >> reagan's dad expected to get a call from her after work. they spoke almost every day. >> but the call never game. >> no. i remember just after 10:00, i started to get concerned that something might be wrong and i tried really to get ahold of her for about four hours that night. >> in this case, you really had a father's intuition. >> i did. >> that something was wrong. >> yep. >> the next morning, kiersten got an uneasy feeling, too, when she passed reagan's empty room. they were sup

here to discuss kiersten powers, also a usa today columnist, and se cup.trump has announced he will be providing ring side commentary for a celebrity boxing match, and he's bragging about how much money he's going to make from that. what's your reaction to this? >> well, there's only one correct reaction. right? that's appalling. it's gross, but it's also predictable. this was never a president who was good at empathy, compassion, s either on veteran's day or in the states. everything was theater and transactional, what he could get. he gets more by doing this boxing match and raising more campaign cash, i'm sure, than doing what is right and good as a former president by acknowledging september 11th and honoring all of the fallen victims and families and servicemen, et cetera. >> nearly 3,000 americans died on 9/11, and this is how the presumptive republican front runner for 2024 is marking this extremely painful and somber moment for this country? >> yeah. and former president. right? this is -- this is the least presidential thing you could possibly do,

can you talk to me about what it looks like if in that meeting with joe manchin and kiersten cinema, the price tag has to come down for them to be on board? do you see that by adjusting the program? you want to get all the programs into action, but maybe some for six years, not ten. is that how you see this progressing? >> when i say i want to keep negotiating, it means we've put on the table our vision. and what the president said the other day that he asked the group that came in to the white house before us to give him was what is it you're for? we've heard a lot about what people are against. what i want to know is okay, if you -- if you -- if you don't like something in the bill, what is it? is it child care? is it health care? what is it that you want to take out? because the number is sort of arbitrary. in fact, i think i said this to you the other day. this is a $0 bill. i heard the president say this today, because i made it clear to him. i thought we needed to start talking about the fact that this is all paid for. with taxes on the wealthiest individuals and the largest co

megan klink and kiersten fordyce wheeler, thank you for joining us.d luck this sunday with more than pink. megan: thank you. kristen: take care. we will take a short break. kristen:kristen: thank you for joining us on this interactive

and kiersten sinema was behind closed doors with white house officials earlier today talking to themut coming to some sort of agreement but talking to progressives today, there was clear they were frustrated at these talks. >> i'm an absolute no. you can write it on the wall with cori bush next to it, i'm a no. come to my district. have kyrsten sinema come to my folks in st. louis, talk to the people spending all their money on their prescription medication that they need that's life saving but also cannot afford their rent at the same time. talk to those who are sleeping in their cars. she has her own story that i feel like she's forgotten. >> i think that if the vote were to fail tomorrow or be delayed there would be a significant breach in trust that would slow the momentum in moving forward in delivering the biden agenda. >> reporter: now that last point is critical from stephanie murphy, a blue dog democrat, one of the more moderate democrats. i asked if the infrastructure vote is delayed tomorrow what will that do for her vote for the larger democratic only plan. she said a bre

deeply frustrated with the senate, specifically two senators, joe manchin and to a greater extent, kiersten cinema for not saying either publicly or in certain cases privately in certain meetings what specifically they'd be willing to support. that's the holdup. now, the speaker said she has the authority to extend that infrastructure vote, the postpone it. she also said she wants that infrastructure bill to pass. there's no indication that house democratic leaders are whipping their members right now or twisting arms trying to pressure them to vote yes, and based on our reporting, the votes simply are not there. progressives are resolute that they'll stop the infrastructure bill until that separate bill is ready. they're afraid that the democrats will sink or try to shrink that build back better act if infrastructure is done. that's a standoff right now. one democrat i spoke to called it mutually assured destruction between the two sides. there's a lot of anxiety about the state of president biden's agenda going forward. >> sahil, that fear you mentioned progressives have, is that -- i'm -

and then you have people like senator kiersten cinema who also have their own demands she's been very clear about where she stands the biggest priority for her are the climate change proposals but if you notice, that is the exact opposite of what senator manchin wants. he does not like the climate change proposals meanwhile in the house speaker pelosi is trying to negotiate between the progressives and the moderates, and the progressives at some point, they're saying they need an ironclad commitment, but then a group of progressive just released an opinion piece saying they need a vote on this reconciliation bill before the infrastructure bill so there's a lot of movement there and not a lot of clarity of what they're willing to accept >> let me skip over and ask like the hardest question of the day. right? what is that clarity what does it mean when they talk about as we heard the congresswoman say in the open here, that ironclad framework. right? >> yeah. you know, it's interesting especially when you're talking to aides in leadership they have for a long time been kind of saying th

and kiersten cinema and joe manchin were primary authors of that infrastructure bill. so it's hostage taking in a certain sense, but it's working both ways here. neither side is giving up the other priority. there's just a total lack of trust among house progressives in the senate moderates. i think that's something where president biden is -- has to or would be the referee to vouch for manchin or the progressives say and say we're going to be in this together or they're not. >> let's listen to senator manchin speaking now. >> you have a good piece of legislation. don't let the ufrt be the enemy of the good. take this one. let's sit down and get where we can get. >> democrats say they need a bottom line from you. they just need a number. why can't you give them a number? >> reporter: we're going to give -- >> we're in different places but we want something to be done. we both want to help the people in need. our seniors on the back end and children on the front end. a tax code. we all agree we voted against a 2017 tax cut. don't you think that ought to be the uniting p

substance, you inevitably get down to sort of personal drama about joe manchin and joe biden and kierstenike this. so that is the biggest thing. but if we got it even in the shorthand about the specifics, we would be saying we already got the bill that bills roads, do we also want to try to tackle the climate issue and give a big child tax credit to almost all families? that is still shorthand but that gets you to something like that. the other thing i think is that none of us tend to focus on the things we take for granted. in a lot of the coverage most reporters take for granted a high level of republican misbehavior, for lack of a better word. one of the things complicating it this week, ramirez -- democr republicans -- democrats are trying to repay the public expenses. republicans are using the filibuster to basically drive the country into a debt default. i have not heard that. what the democrats are forced to do is put in avoiding debt default into the reconciliation package, into that $3.5 trillion package. now, people who follow the ins and outs of this very closely, i'm not sayin

they are demanding that there must be agreement with the senate including senators joe manchin and kiersten cinema before they go down that plank. so this is extremely difficult for speaker pelosi, leader schumer, and whether this vote takes place next week on the bipartisan bill, it's also going to depend on do they -- are they going to need republicans in order to pass it? if that vote moves forward without the final reconciliation, the human infrastructure $3.5 trillion bill, t up to progressives on if they are going to vote for it with the promise of a vote later on on the human infrastructure bill, or if they're going to call the moderates' bluff. >> lee ann, does this kind of boil down to a game of chicken here between moderates and progressives? they both have taken someone else's bill hostage. it seems to me like given the order of operations here and what's ready to go, is the easiest solution for pelosi and democratic leaders to kind of try to force progressives to take what they can get right now and start with the promise they made to the moderates and vote for the infrastructur

their intent my good friend, joe manchin, and kiersten cinema, their intent is to steal the election.n for the filibuster for one of the most important things that the senate does, and that is confirming supreme court justices, there can't be a filibuster from saving american democracy? for voting rights laws, for civil rights laws? i guess -- i guess the question in washington has been for some time now, jonathan, will the democratic party have the courage to count to 50? to stop these schemes? for stealing elections and destroying american democracy? will they have the courage to count to 50 and do what republicans would do in a new york second? >> the question is if not now, when? the states couldn't be -- stakes couldn't be higher. there's going to be so much scrutiny this week on capitol hill and the democrats here. we're facing a looming government shutdown. there's the fight over the debt ceiling and this is the week where president biden's two-part agenda is likely voted upon in capitol hill. democrats are not sure they can keep their party together to get them done. certainly