that's what dan kildee said to us on the way in comes into play about the expeditious release, if they decide to release these returns. all of that is coming in the coming hours. we do also expect at some point to see chairman richie neal. he's going to speak with reporters about whatever this decision is, and frankly, for a man who's been followed around this building by his lawyers making sure that he doesn't say anything that runs afoul of the rules governing this process, that's probably going to be a pretty unburdened moment for him, despite the fact that he has taken this process very seriously and has repeatedly said to us at every turn just how by the book he has wanted to do this. i do think, though, if we're looking at -- we talked about the legal point, but the larger politics point here and whether or not republicans will defend trump, i think just more broadly, this is yet another example after a day yesterday when he got criminal referrals on multiple fronts from the january 6th committee, we'll hear more about them op on wednesday when we get the final report, if there's

congressman kildee seemed very shocked and you don't seem shocked at all. explain the gulf there? >> when i find out there is gambling akin in a casino, i'm not surprised. everything will be lifted with the trump administration, to learn that the irs did not audit his taxes as they were supposed to? that's really surprising thing i think i have heard come out of the four years of the trump administration. it's upsetting, as a taxpayer and citizen you would hope that they had done it. i don't know why they didn't. maybe they don't have enough staff who dedicated to. you think they have a team of people who could do it. maybe there is no order from on high not to do it. we don't now, but it's, shocking but not talking, is what i'm saying on that. >> it is interesting that the other audit that we learned about in 2020 1:22 when you got a huge amount of tyson region, we also got some information with that big audit. that, apparently, still open. essentially something to watch. -- it goes against him. penalties and interest now, it could go well above 100 million. that's not a small am

>> well, that is what i was just told from dan kildee who is a member on the committee.rything neil requested. they have to do some heavy redactions because there is personal information obviously included in someone's tax returns. so that is why it might take additional time. but it is underlying documents. and we should note it is also work files about any ongoing audits that was happening. that might really include a treasure trove of information beyond just looking at someone 's tax returns. >> and asking out for a friend in the control room and assignment desks across america, literally any minute now they will release the summary? >> they are going to release the summary any minute john. of course, any minute could mean right now, it could mean 30 minutes from now, but they are planning to release that tonight. >> a congressional minute can last a long time. but it could be a busy night for forensic reporting. lauren fox, on capitol hill, thank you very much for helping us understand what we can expect. joining us now is trump -- biographer michael antonio, author

here is what democrat dan kildee of michigan said. >> -- in 2019 with the intention of determining whethered to take up legislation to address what seemed to be a weakness in the audits of presidents. the reason it took so long was because of donald trump. those returns raise all sorts of red flags and we think in order for congress to act and the american public to judge our actions we have to look at both of those facts. >> what do you make of his argument? >> i think -- >> here's the problem -- >> oh, sorry. mark, i'll get to you in a second. go ahead, elie. >> i'm sorry. >> here's the problem, i think it's a legitimate point and legitimate problem to point out that donald trump's taxes were not audited as they should have been during his first two years in the office. the disconnect is why would congress need to see donald trump's individual tax returns, his specific assets, his specific liabilities in order to figure that out and in order to legislate around it. it goes back to fairly flimsy pretext that the ways and means committee has been using all along to get their hands on these

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kildee, mr. sean patrick maloney and mrs. dingell, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.res. 1512. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from maryland seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mr. ruppersberger, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. ruppersberger will vote yes on h.res. 1512. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new jersey seek recognition? mr. pallone: mr. speaker, as the member designated by ms. ann kirkpatrick, mr. albio sires, ms. dina titus, ms. eddie bernice johnson and mr. bill pascrell, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.res. 1512. as the member designated by mr. donald payne, mr. peter welch and mr. mike doyle, i inform the house that these members will vote no on h.res. 1512. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, as the member designated by mr. gonzalez of texas, i inform the house that mr. gonzalez will vote

kildee, mr. o'halleran, mrs. axne, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on the motion to table. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from pennsylvania rise? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. gibbs of ohio, i inform the house that mr. gibbs will vote no on the motion. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from new york rise? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. jacobs of new york, i inform the house that mr. jacobs will vote yea on the motion. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from utah rise? >> madam speaker, as the member designated by mr. gonzalez of ohio, i inform the house that mr. gonzalez will vote yea on the motion. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does gentlelady from texas rise? ms. garcia: madam speaker, as the member designated by mrs. lawrence, i inform the house that mrs. lawrence will vote no on the motion to table. the speaker pro tempore: the gentlelady from texas. ms. gar

kildee. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized. mr. kildee: i rise in support of this legislation, legislation that ensures it will protect our tax system and ensures that it is fair and transparent for all americans. as we have heard the purpose of the ways and means committee investigation and the purpose of this legislation is to ensure that no american is above the law, even the president of the united states. shockingly, under the former president, the i.r.s. was not examining the president's tax returns as required by their own policy, as it had for other presidents before and since. it did not follow its own rules. because of this, there are glaring questions whether the former president was abiding by our tax laws. and that's why we needed the information and that is why we need this legislation to require the i.r.s. to examine presidential returns in a timely and complete manner. the american people must have confidence that our tax laws apply evenly and justly to everyone. thank you, chairman neal, for your leadership. bypass

kildee, mrs. axne, mr. o'halleran, mr. shawn patrick maloney and mr. torres, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.res. 1510. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? >> as the member designated by ms. malliotakis of new york, i inform the house that she will vote nay on the rule. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? ms. wasserman schultz: as the member designated by mr. lawson of florida, i inform the house that mr. lawson will vote yea on h.r. 1510. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentlelady from texas seek recognition? mr. garcia: mr. speaker, as the member designated by -- ms. garcia: mr. speaker, as the member designated by mrs. lawrence, i inform the house that mrs. lawrence will vote yes on h.r. 1510. thank you, mr. speaker. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from idaho seek recognition? >> mr. speaker, as the member designated by mr. mike simpson from the state of idaho, i info

kildee of michigan, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.res. 1508. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from maryland seek recognition? >> as the member designated by mr. ruppersberger, pursuant to house resolution 8, i inform the house that mr. ruppersberger will yea on h.res. 1508. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the distinguished gentlewoman from texas seek recognition? ms. garcia: as the member designated by chairwoman waters, i inform the house that chairwoman waters will vote yes on h.res. 1508. thank you. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from california seek recognition? mr. correa: as the member designated by congress members marie newman, lucille roybal-allard, tim ryan, and henry cuellar, i inform the house that these members will vote yes on h.res. 1508. the speaker pro tempore: for what purpose does the gentleman from florida seek recognition? >> thank you, mr. speaker. as the member designated by ms. malliotakis of new york, i inform the house that ms. malliotakis will vo