his name was konstantin kilimnik. "climnik bounce add round a bit og gree lance translating until landing a job in 1995 at the moscow office of the national republican institute. kilimnik did not hide his military past from his new employer. in fact wherks was asked how he learned to speak such fluent english he responded russian military intelligence, according to one iri official. one political operative who worked in moscow at the time told politico.com, it was like oh, yeah, kostia, the guy from the g.r.u., the guy from russian military intelligence. that's how we talked about him. the fact of his training in military intelligence became the stuff of office teasing. when kostia struggled to make sense of some american political terminology, the american who hired him would josh him about his martial past. if i huh translate there are seven tanks and three infantry with heavy mortar hiding on a bridge you could translate that lickety-split i bet. according to this american official, konstantin kilimnik would wink a

few hours later from kilimnik. absolutely every article. manafort then asked in response, how do we use to get hole? has ovd operation seen. >> ovd meaning oleg deripaska. a has he seen how do we use to get hole? now how was paul manafort going to use his position on the american presidential campaign to get whole with some russian oligarch? no idea. this is an unprecedented open question in american history. but he and konstantin kilimnik talked about it a lot while he was running the trump campaign. kilimnik email that is april to 2016 to march. i have been sending everything to victor who has been forwarding conversation to ovd. victor is working or for deripaska. kilimnik says i'm carefullily optimistic on the interest of our biggest interest. our friend says there is significantly more attention to the campaign in his boss's bond and he will most likely be looking for ways to reach out soon understanding the time sensitivity. i'm more than sure it will be resolved and get back to the original relationship with

his name, konstantin kilimnik. he keeps a very low profile.ave tried to find reliable photos of him. there are very few on the entire internet. he became manafort's point man. he served as a fixer for trump's campaign aides and it was lied about this man, kilimnik that led to mueller jailing that dutch lawyer in london. if you remember that. he also acted as a go between between putin and russian oligarch oleg. mueller is investigating the changes that are made to help russia in the 2016 gop platform and this man allegedly bragged about pulling that off but also denied any links to russian intelligence. >> if there had been any questions about my real allegiance, he would have thrown me out of this administration. you guys believe he's a pro-russian president, but i have my very own believes about him being pro-russian. working with manafort to help this country be a normal country. >> i'm joined by former ambassador to russia michael mcfaul. as experienced as you are in the region, how significant is it to see this russian indicted? >> well,

thers also the ft that, jeremy, kilimnik is a key pyer in this.s is someone he sends 'may to, this incredibly incriminating e-mail. how do we use to get whole? he just got hired on a presidential campaign, turns around, e-mails his associate in ukraine doing very shady business, how do we get money out of this essentially. the idea he would still be talking to him and kilimnik has fled to russia, what does that ? kilimnik is a former russian intelligence officer who was the business partner of paul manafort in the consulting realm and don't forget what they were doing was advancing the kremlin's agenda by supporting the pro-russian yanukovych regime stemming from an effort to get european leaders and politicians to lobby onides of the atlantic and illegally in the case of washington because they were not registered as lobbyists to advance russia'sply agenda. if you zoom back the lens and take a deep breath, what is mueller asked to investigate? he's asked to investigate russian political interference in the fairs of the united states of erica an a

kilimnik is in moscow. doesn't look like he's going to be extradited to the united states any time soon, if ever and gates has flipped and the two journalists that manafort reached out to trying to get them to change their testimony, the witness tampering charge that we saw mueller bring against manafort who went directly to prosecutors -- or went directly to the fbi and said paul manafort is reaching out to us, we don't want anything to do with this. so you have manafort now increasingly on his own and he is particularly stung of course by the flipping of rick gates and now it doesn't look like he's going to be able to speak to konstantin kilimnik anymore, who of course was his russian brains. that's going to be a huge loss for him. >> joyce, natasha is describing that isolation. what's he thinking at this point? i want to get your perspective as a former federal prosecutor of what robert mueller is trying to do here and the effect that may be having on paul manafort. >> so mueller has at least a couple of

ken, you reported about kilimnik and manafort for awhile. describe the two men's relationship for us. >> well, constantine kilimnik who can goes by kk or kostia an friends started with manafort back in 2005. he was recruited from the international republican institute's moscow office where he was -- had been fired actually, depending on who you listen to because of suspected ties to russian intelligence even back then but when he starred with manafort, he started as a translator and gradually worked his way up becoming integral to manafort's kiev operation and actually playing a huge role in implementing of this lobbying plan on behalf viktor yanukovych who is manafort's client, the pro-russian president strong mann president of ukraine, kk was very much involved in this effort that manafort helped fund and implement to essentially buff the reputation of viktor yanukovych on the world stage at a time when he was under mounting criticism from the u.s. and from our allies for both his pivot towards russia, his corruption and his prosecution of

and kilimnik has suspected tied to russian intelligence services. and how does all of this fit into the mueller investigation? >> well first off, i think we learned today that paul manafort's disregard for the rule of law knows no bounds, regardless of how many ankle bracelets he's wearing and the fact that he's been indicted for a second time along with kilimnik tells us there is one more potential touch point with russian intelligence. and he's denied the claims and we don't yet have any information from the fbi directly linking him to russian intelligence. but we do know that there are multiple touch points between members of the campaign and the gru, the fsb and various parts of the russian government and my question from a national security perspective is whether the fbi now comes back and does have more information about kilimnik's direct ties with russian intelligence. >> and he denies any ties with russian -- and these are allegations. nothing proven yet and manafort has pled not guilty in all of these charges. at least so far. but big pictu

and this individual, konstantin kilimnik, is a russian army-trained linguist. he was doing pro-russian government propaganda in ukraine for the yanukovych regime. you'd have to believe it's an entire coincidence that he would be a private actor, a russian national living in ukraine, living in kiev, but actually having no ties to the russian government, yet doing their bidding. obviously nobody believes that and peopleo believthat he has a russian government nexus. >> so what is it alleged, jeremy, that he was doing in our country, especially in and around our presidential election? >> well, if there is a -- if there is an effort by manafort and a russian government official to advance pro-russian propaganda, to advance the russian government's view of policy and to inject themselves into politics, that's precisely what they were doing during the 2016 campaign. and it shows an element of sophistication, an element of capability, an element of expertise by paul manafort with this russian government official in doing exactly that. and there's a possibility that's

kilimnik traveled twice to the u.s. during the campaign when trump -- when manafort was chairman of the campaign. my sources tell me at one point said he was in trump tower meeting with manafort and they were discussing both the relationship with deripaska and how they could collect on what that he believed were these unpaid fees from this ongoing political party in ukraine that was aligned with russia. this is during the campaign. >> so here's the big question, natasha. we we're all looking at michael cohen. there's news he might be ready to flip. manafort has shown no signs of wanting to do that despite the fact that there's a good chance that he enters is jail tonight and never sees the outside of a jail cell for the rest of his natural life. >> prosecutors that i've spoken to have expressed confusioning abouting this because if you're paul manafort, you really have an incentive to cooperate with prosecutors here. then again, maybe you don't because of course, from what we saw from giuliani today kind of signalling t

kilimnik has disappeared, fleeing where else, but to russia. for more on the significance of these new charges by the special counsel i'm joined by harry san deck and ken. describe the two men's relationship for us. >> kilimnik, he goes by kk with friend started with manafort back in 2005. he was recruited from the international republican institute's moscow office, where he had been fired, actually, depending on who you listen to because of suspected ties to russian intelligence even back then. but when he started with manafort, he actually started as a translator and gradually worked his way up becoming sbe gratd to manafort integrated into many of the's kiev operati operation. kk was very much involved in this effort that manafort helped fund and implement to essentially buff the reputation of vick forrian kovic on the world stage at a time when he was under mounting criticism from the u.s. and from our allies for both his pivot towards russia, his corruption, and his prosecution of his former rival timeshenko. kk was pivotal in executing th

we -- we knew he was in touch with kilimnik throughout the campaign meeting with kilimnik, talking to him often but we don't know more than that. we don't know how he fits into the larger part of the picture. the most interesting thing about manafort that i come back to is that he was there for the don jr. meeting. he was there at trump tower in june of 2016 when the russians came offering the dirt on hillary clinton. he claimed the meeting was about adoption, he handed over his notes to congressional investigators, i'm sure mueller has them. the interesting thing would be what does he know about that meeting? did he know more about it coming in? who else knew? obviously that meeting is an important part of the collusion question so in that sense he could be very helpful to mueller. >> joyce, let me show you -- we know manafort has lied, jonathan lemire used the word brazen. this is paul manafort at the republican convention. >> are there any ties between mr. trump, you, or your campaign and putin and his regime? >> no, there are not, that's absurd and there's no base to it. >> so joy

we have these two extra charges for manafort, two charges for konstantin kilimnik.this comes as robert mueller earlier in the week was calling for the bail conditions to be changed as well. laura: rajini vaidyanathan,th ks sous much for joining . in other news, british-based group monitori the civil war ineyria says 38 civilians w killed in an overnight airstrike in idlib. the observatory for humiv rights sayschildren were among the dead, and the attack was likely to of been carried out by russian jets. austria's right-wing government has announced what it is calling a crackdown on political islam. seven mosques will be shut down and imams will be expelled. investigations includes inquiries into turkish-backed mosques. hundreds of problem of anti-islam -- the turks have called the move anti-islam and racist. today, fans and friends are mourning the death of anthy urdain. the celebrity chef was found dead in his hotel room. many were shocked that he woulde is own life. it is the second high-profile suicide this week. after the death of kate spade on tuesday. n from n

charges were also brought against one of his associates konstantin kilimnik.n intelligence. among the charges are conspiracy to obstruct justice. with more, here's rajini vaidyanathan. today in the court in washington, dc a 32 page indictment was filed. let's wind back— we know that paul manafort already faces a number of charges relating to his work as a lobbyist on behalf of the ukrainian government. those early charges include conspiracy to launder money and making false statements. he is awaiting trial for that. these two new charges accuse him of tampering with witnesses, trying to get them to change their statements. the two new charges that have been added to the existing charge sheet is conspiracy to obstructjustice and obstruction ofjustice. one of his associates, someone called konstantin kilimnik, said to be his right—hand man in ukraine has also been charged with those two charges. he is said to have resided in moscow, there are rumours that he may have been linked to the russian intelligence, although that has not been confirmed. so right now we h

kilimnik, several allies urged him to stop communicating with mr.ilimnik, known to associates as k.k., because they fear his communications are being monitored and he is neither discreet nor tactful. barbara, kilimnik is a russian citizen. it's believed that he is in russia right now. by indicting him what is the special counsel hoping to achieve? it seems pretty clear that he wouldn't be extradited for this. >> it's unlikely he could bring him to stand trial in the united states. but it brings him into the narrative. it is the department of justice policy not to name by name anyone that you're not going to charge. and so by charging him, they can now bring him into the conversation and talk about him. it's possible they have evidence that names him by name. there's a phrase in the justice department called name and shame. so if you know that someone has done something wrong, even if you aren't able to get your hands on him, that's one way of dealing with it. the other thing is they can put out a red notice with interpol, so if mr. kilimnik was tryi

unbelievable. >> kilimnik denies any access.lier the president was asked about whether he would pardon paul manafort or michael cohen who hasn't been charged with anything, his long time lawyer in new york. listen to how the president responded. >> i haven't even thought about it. i haven't even thought about any of it. it's far too early to be thinking about that. they haven't been convicted of anything. it's far too early to be thinking about it. >> joey what's the impact of a comment like that? >> clearly the impact would be he hasn't ruled it out. he didn't say no. this is what confounds me about everything. in total objectivity. i believe they have manafort dead to right. if you look at the indictment, which is an allegation of a defense attorney, an indictment means 23 members of a grand jury found reasonable cause to believe a crime was committed and he committed it. i get it. only a majority. nothing about reasonable doubt. stepping back, here is what confounds me. the indictments are detailed. these are cases where they

that's konstantin kilimnik. he is an individual that worked with paul manafort in ukraine. he is known as a kind of political fixer, political ideologue in that part of the world. he's also somebody that the u.s. government has linked with russian intelligence, somebody that paul manafort has done business with for a significant period of time. here's what's new today. there's been two counts of obstruction of justice. one count each -- obstruction of justice, and another count of conspiracy to obstruct justice. this goes to the witness tampering allegations that we first heard about earlier this week in that paul manafort and konstantin kilimnik, according to this indictment, did conspire to influence, delay and prevent the testimony of several people that they had done business with as part of this pro-ukrainian lobbying effort that had been going on several years ago. so the charges -- new charges today relate to that. it is the first time that we are seeing konstantin kilimnik being named in robert mueller's papers. in addition to that, paul manafort is also going to be

today robert mueller also indicted konstantin kilimnik. these charges are related to the charges manafort is facing regarding his foreign lobbying work before he joined the trump campaign. and breaking tonight the legal team has responded to these charges. from a scant record the special counsel conjures a sinister plot to corruptly persuade two of mr. manafort's former business associates to perjure themselves in the upcoming trial in september. the new charges should be seen for what it is, an attempt to derail the modified conditions of rae lease at the 11th hour. there's no reason to believe the newest charge has increased the flight risk. joining us now barbara mcquade, an msnbc legal contributor. and matt miller former spokesman for attorney general eric holder. barbara, first to you in this argument that manafort's lawyers are trying to make, they're trying to say not only is there very little evidence that mueller's team has produced, a couple text messages that were short text messages but also in talking about or filing this it c

kilimnik y h to spontaneous respond. re from our north american correspondent.er, explain the significance of these latest developments. >> it shows that robert muller is certainlyng put maximum pressure on mr. manafort, donald trump's former campaign manager. trux ditional charges, on of justice. these stem from chargese heard about earlier in t week,hat he had attempted to essentially tamper with witnesses, using mobile phone and a device, an application that was used to try to get to people that wod give evidence of his future -- at his future trial. as you say, he has denied these allegations.e th second person who have been -- who has beenge ch has made no statement. he is said to be mr. manafort's right-hand man in ukraine and said to have connections with russian intelligence. mr. manafort is due back in court at the end of next week when a judge will consider his conditions of bail and there isi a plity that those conditions will be tightened or bail could be revoked ahl altogether, in which case he'll be sent to jail to wait for his upcoming trial. >> t

all of a sudden very late in the game, kilimnik gets added as a defendant. i'd like to know what the another is there. mueller's been very careful, very quiet, a very few leaks out of his office. we can only speculate it. >> i appreciate it as always. thank you. >> stay with us. much more to come. we'll take a short break. ♪ (electronic dance music)♪ ♪ ♪ almost $800 when we switched our auto and home insurance. with liberty, we could afford a real babysitter instead of your brother. hey! oh, that's my robe. is it? when you switch to liberty mutual, you could save $782 on auto and home insurance. and still get great coverage for you and your family. call for a free quote today. you could save $782 when liberty stands with you. liberty mutual insurance. i'm a small business, but i have... big dreams... and big plans. so how do i make the efforts of 8 employees... feel like 50? how can i share new plans virtually? how can i download an e-file? virtual tours? zip-file? really big files? in seconds, not minutes... just like that. like everything... the answer is

he and this guy constantine kilimnik essentially we want to get our stories straight. went straight to mueller. these guys are trying to tamper with us. one of the guys allegedly told an fbi agent filed in the declaration manafort was trying touborn perjury. this shows people turning on manafort and the increasing pressure that that is amounting to that is allowing mueller to wield against him. >> let's talk for a second about e broader investigation where they stand. the president tweeted as he was on his way -- all of the events of the past couple of days have sort of melded together so i'm not sure if this tweet came when he was going to canada or singapore -- yeah, canada. i'm heading to canada and the g7, then singapore and north korea. won't be talking about the russian witch hunt hoax for a while. >> that lasted for 20 minutes, right? i think he tweeted like half an hour later witch hunt or something. >> certainly yes, possible. not likely. >> i think this week we had -- i think it was this week, every week blurs into one. there was this truly bizarre 48-hour ne

he and a former aide, konstantin kilimnik, are accused of obstructing justice by tampering with witnesseshas disputed the charges, but mr kilimink has yet to respond. with more, here's the bbc‘s peter bowes. this is a sign that the special counsel, mr mueller is determined to exert maximum legal pressure on mr manafort. two new charges, obstruction of justice manafort. two new charges, obstruction ofjustice and conspiracy to obstruct justice, obstruction ofjustice and conspiracy to obstructjustice, and they stem from allegation is that we had about earlier in the week, that he had attempted allegedly to tamper with witnesses, contacting them using their mobile phones and encrypt the messaging services. the allegation being that he was attempting to influence their testimony at any future trial. the second person, konstantin kilimnik, is facing the same obstruction charges, he is said to be a long—time associate of mr manafort, described as some as a right—hand man in ukraine. and perhaps, according to prosecutors, with connections to russian intelligence. as far as connections to russian

a second person, konstantin kilimnik, is facing the same obstruction charges.e is said to bea same obstruction charges. he is said to be a long—time associate of mr manafort, described by some as a right—hand man in ukraine, and perhaps, according to prosecutors, with connections with russian intelligence. as far as mr manafort is concerned, he's facing a string of crime charges to do with financial affairs and he is likely to be in court again at the end of next week, not to face trial, but for a judge to look at the conditions of his bail. those conditions of his bail. those conditions could be tightened or bale could be revoked altogether, which would mean that he would go to jail to wait for his trial ash bail. peter, thank you. —— bail. guatemala has asked for more aid from the international community after the volcanic eruption, which has claimed more than 100 lives. the volcano, 50km west of the capital, exploded last sunday. a state of emergency is in place, with rescue efforts hampered by bad weather. andrew plant reports. more evacuations as the fuego

and we also have a new defendant, constantine kilimnik. he worked very closely with paul manafort. and the two new charges against both paul manafort and konstantine kilimnik are new charges in addition to the five that manafort already faces here in washington. years before paul manafort was hired to run the trump campaign, he was actually working for the ukrainian government, the pro-russian at the time ukrainian government. and that's where all his problems really stem from in these indielts. he also faces similar charges in virginia. he's supposed to be on trial. he's scheduled to go on trial in virginia and later this year here in washington. these are new charges that really add to the pressure to paul manafort and whether or not he's going to strike a deal with prosecutors, which is what would really be the way for him to get out of this and perhaps provide evidence that the special counsel needs or wants against other people that are under investigation. obviously the big person there that everybody thinks about is whether or not there's information that paul manafort has a

it's the first time mr kilimnik has been publicly named.urt has overturned the war crimes conviction of the former congolese vice—president jean—pierre bemba. he was also acquitted of crimes against humanity. in 2016, mr bemba was given an 18—year sentence for atrocities committed by his forces in the central african republic, including rape and murder. the judges ruled that he should not have been held liable for crimes committed by his troops in a foreign country. football's world governing body fifa has suspended ghana's top football official after he was seen on camera accepting a cash gift from someone pretending to be a businessman. kwesi nyantakyi was a target in a two—year undercover investigation by a ghanaian journalist, anas arameyew anas. his film has left ghanaian football in turmoil. peter okwoche reports. these are the images that have sullied kwesi nya nta kyi's reputation. it's a huge fall from grace for the second most powerful man in african football. his campaign to head ghana's football association was built on a pledge

we have seen 19 people indicted, 5 pleaded guilty. 20 now, with the addition of kilimnik. every single that manafort has gent is that he is fighting this and not consider caving, including the fact that this new indictment is about allegedly tampering with witnesses. in addition to cupping a plea he is trying to lean on people not to testify robert: we will be tracking paul manafort and his trial all summer. we have to leave you a few minutes early so you can support your local pbs station which in turn supports washingtonweek. our conversation will continue online on the "washington week" extra. l we wlk of a possible blue wave in november. you can find that later tonight at pbs.org/washingtonweek. >> funding for washingtonweek is provided by -- >> additionaldi f is provided by -- american cruise lines, proud sponsor of washington week. newm's own foundation, donating all profits to charity and nourishing the common the ethics -- ethics in excellence and journalism foundation. the corporation for public broadcasting and by oncontributi to your pbs station from viewers lik

against paul manafort as well as charges against one of his close business associates, konstantin kilimnikitical consultant. and sarah what is behind the charges? >> well paul manafort is facing a bevy of charges before this. these are two additional and what prosecutors say and what they sort of tip their hat to earlier this week was that after paul manafort's business partner rick gates flipped and he faced another wave of charges, it seems like he got nervous and so according to prosecutors he started reaching out to the witnesses in this case trying to get their story straight and at least, according to the witness accounts, trying to get them to lie in their testimony. now we know mueller's team is keeping a close eye on everyone involved in this case, including paul manafort. and so what came earlier this week in a court filing has now turned into a new official charges against manafort. >> and speaking of interesting. tell me about -- konstantin kilimnik. >> the first time the mueller team is naming him and bringing charges, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to obstruct justice. he

remember when he tried to ghost write the op-ed with constantine comrim kilimnik. >> kilimnik is in the superseding indictment he's alleged to have witness tamper. she didn't vin another choice, i believe. >> michael schmidt, from the bigger picture standpoint here, legally, it's the question of the mueller investigation where this all kind of emerges from. how does this development with paul manafort today fit into that broader picture of the mueller investigation and his role in that. >> well, i guess what we're going to find out here is whether paul manafort has something to offer or if he really thinks he's been wrongfully charged and wants to go to trial. mueller is trying to put as much pressure on manafort as possible to get him to plead. he's one of the people charged and not do that. the deputy campaign chairman has pled. the former national security adviser has pled. but manafort has held out. he said look, i have nothing to give the government. i have done nothing wrong. i want to find this to the end of the earth. now he will face the pressure of jailtime. this is before the

he and a former aide — konstantin kilimnik — are accused of obstructing justice by tampering with witnesseshas disputed the charges, but mr kilimink has yet to respond. let's get more form our north america correspondent peter bowes. explained the significance of the latest developments. the charges showed that robert mueller is putting maximum pressure on paul manafort, the former campaign manager. two additional charges: obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct justice. these stem from charges that we heard about earlier this week that heard about earlier this week that he had attempted to essentially tamper with witnesses, using a mobile phone and a device, an application that was used to try to get to people that would give evidence at his future trial. as you say, he has denied these allegations. the second person who has been charged has made no response. he is said to be paul ma nafort‘s response. he is said to be paul manafort‘s right—hand man in the ukraine. and for prosecutors to have connections with russian intelligence. as far as paul ma nafort intelligence. as far as

manafort and his russian business partner konstantin kilimnik allegedly asked european contacts to testifyt their lobbying work did not take place in the u.s. judge amy berman jackson told manafort's attorney, "this is not middle school. i can't take his cell phone. i have no appetite for this." manafort will now remain in jail until his trial concludes later this year. he currently faces dozens of charges, including financial fraud, money laundering, and false statements. >> reporter: mr. president, have you spoken with paul manafort? speaking with reporters earlier in the day, the president defends his former campaign chairman. >> they went back 12 years to get things that he did 12 years ago? >> reporter: manafort served as campaign chairman for five months, including during the hepublican convention. but mr. trump today downplayed manafort's role in the campaign. >> you know, paul manafort worked for me for a very short oriod of time. at worked for me, what, 49 days or something? a very short period of time. >> reporter: after manafort was ftnt to jail, the president tweeted, "wow, wha

according to court filings, the special counsel's team is charging manafort and kostantin kilimnik withe meaning they allegedly worked together to try to convince witnesses to commit perjury. the first time mueller is named kalimnik in collaborating with politicians. the 20th person to face charges in the investigation. friday's move to bring charges ramps up the pressure on president trump's former campaign chairman to cooperate with mueller's probe. under house arrest for more than seven months, manafort recently got a glimmer of hope that mueller's team might be amenable to allowing him to be released on bail. in a sudden shift, prosecutors unveiled the alleged witness tampering and requested he be sent back to jail to await trial. the obstruction charges come on top of charges manafort faces for failing to disclose his lobbying work for a foreign government and other financial crimes. he's currently awaiting two trials, and he's maintained his innocence. if he is found guilty, the 69-year-old could be sent to prison for the rest of his life, sara murray, cnn, washington. >>> legal a

description matches the russian manager of paul manafort's lobbying office in kiev, named konstantin kilimnikally? "kill-'em-nik"? if you're a russian operative, you might want to go by something less suspicious. maybe try "sergey murderov." ( laughter ) so-- ( applause ) this is sergey murderov. da! flaw! ♪ ♪ thank you. thank you. so my question is, is it collusion yet? is this collusion at this point? gates was trump's deputy campaign chairman, who stayed on through the inauguration, knowingly met with a russian spy in the months leading up the election. what more evidence do we need, donald trump in a t-shirt saying, "i colluded with the russians, and all i got was this lousy t-shirt, and the presidency"? ( cheers and applause ) i would like that. i would like that t-shirt. >> jon: yeah! >> stephen: i'd like a copy of that. >> jon: i'd wear that.en: all c, all cotton. gotta breathe. >> jon: yeah. >> stephen: so, the president almost definitely colluded with russia, but there's equally important news out there. tiffany haddish said someone bit beyonce. ( laughter ) yeah, yeah, this is serio

actually still communicating with his longtime politic russian ukrainian friend continue assistant teen kilimnik. he was identified as somne with ongoing ties russian intelligence. not only was paul manafort trying to tamper with witnesses and influence their testimony, he was using this, you know, long-time associate of his who he should be trying to distance himself from in order to do that. >> and while jeff sessions was busy today justifying the relationshiping children out of the arms of their parents at the dorn border, president trump tweeted this. the russian witch-hunt folks continues all because jeff sessions didn't tell me he was going to recuse himself. i would have quickly picked someone else. so much time and money wasted, so many lives ruined, and sessions knew better than most that there was no collusion. and paul butler, here is a president who is being investigated for obstruction of justice, and he is saying if i knew that jeff sessions was not going to protect me from that investigation, he would n my attorney. >> the only way this is not smoking gun evidence of the presiden

let's go to paul manafort, the new superseding indictment and the one against konstantin kilimnik asto you about where robert mueller's investigation might be headed and dovetail for me if you would that with paul manafort's bail that he's on and what we saw paul manafort do last week? >> it's very much related. i would say first of all that mueller has evidence. he's has probable cause. he's not on a fishing expedition. he's proceeding in a very logical, good way. one of the things that all prosecutors and judges take very seriously is tampering with witnesses. and the fact that he indicted him for that as opposed to just trying to get the bail revoked and have him jailed while he's pending -- and this is the second time he's done something that violates his bail. he wrote an op-ed he shouldn't have written. he can't say that he didn't get fair warning. and any lawyer worth his salt would have said to him can you not talk to anybody involved in this case, anybody that had anything to do with ukraine, don't talk to them. he called people. he texted. that's so wrong. it's so obviously

the manafort case it is a superseding indictment against one of manafort's associates, konstantin kilimnikname manafort as well. is another superseding indictment. we are working on getting more information about that. >>> in the meantime, it is 11:00 a.m. out west and 2:00 p.m. in quebec city where president trump is walking into a meeting with some of his closest allies dukes up. any minute now he'll join the rest of the g7 leaders, what they call a "family photo." a snapshot though of a dysfunctional family right now. a familyha

he sent that e-mail to konstantin kilimnik who worked for manafort in ukraine. he has since been indicted by mueller and fled to russia. the person they're apparently trying to get whole with was this guy, russian oligarch oleg deripaska, one of russia's richest man with close ties to the kremlin. yesterday a newly unsealed filing revealed that deripaska had loaned 10 million bucks to a manafort business. $10 million. which he presumably wanted back. so just to be absolutely clear, the guy who was running donald trump's campaign during the summer when he was running it for free and the russians were sab tanging the election also just happened to be in debt $10 million to russian oligarch with close ties to putin at the very same time that vladimir putin and his government were working to get trump elected president. for the latest on the investigation, contributor natasha bertrand covering national security and russia investigation and michael isikoff, chief investigative correspondent at yahoo news, co-author of russian roulette". michael, it was always unclear

robert mueller indicted paul manafort and konstantin kilimnik.caroline policy. and they came from the probe overall, what happens with manafort's case now? >> well, this is a pretty big deal, quite frankly, alex, we could see paul manafort remanded to federal custody at his court hearing next week. federal judges take witness tampering which is what he's been reindicted with. the supersedeas indictment was just filed. and charged with tampering and using apps and ways of getting to witnesses in the underlying investigations to his violations and potentially lobbying on behalf of the united states as an agent. he's attempting to influence those witnesses and that is seen as a crime on the criminal justice system. as a crime on the court. so, in the department of justice, employees take those things very seriously. so, he could be headed back -- or headed to jail, alex. it's a big deal. >> can you figure out why he would do this? what was he thinking? >> i told natasha bertan that you had on in your previous house of the atlantic, i actually see th

manafort and his longtime associate with russian intelligence ties, konstantin kilimnik, have been charged of obstruction of justice and conspiracy to obstruct. both are accused of knowingly and intentionally persuade another person with intent to influence, delay, and prevent the testimony of any person in an official proceeding. sounds like tampering. >> it sounds also like special counsel mueller has a bad attitude about witness tampering, about trying to interfere with the process. >> he's not the only one. >> you have judges too. judges take that more seriously than a lot of prosecutors. so what that means is, you know, sometimes we think what if there's only evidence of obstruction, not evidence of collusion. >> right. only evidence of obstruction, yeah. >> again, there's been a question about what mueller would do. i think this sends a signal that he would actually bring a case if it's just obstruction. >> on the other side of the fight, this is of course stormy daniels. why do you think rudy is going out there so far on a limb, trashing this woman? president trump told reporters th

i don't know exactly what konstantin kilimnik, the russian ukrainian indicted in this new filing. i think we're going to see more of this kind of hard push tactics on paul manafort because he is not declaring -- not pleading guilty and refusing to give information that doesn't exist on president trump's alleged collusion with russia. >> how do you know it doesn't exist why would the special counsel. >> as far as i know it doesn't exist. >> that's a difference very different. >> as far as i know it doesn't exist. but i don't believe -- i understand. but i don't believe -- i think paul's stuck in a bad spot just like papadopoulos is snuck a bad spot some of the other guys. they don't have anything to give. >> we don't know that. >> the president and none of the men and women around him -- i don't believe they do because i was on the inside and i heard the communications. >> words matter. and when you don't fuel the misperception of known fact with how you feel about things you're free to have feels. >> but we also know at this point we know of know evidence of collusion between the