of best practices i don't know if commissioner you that want to be the person with the sergeant killshaw and come up with a date i know the first of february but given that there will be one-on-one discussion you may have to schedule it farther out. >> i'll work with secretary kilshaw but the most important issue we will deal that. >> thank you. >> commissioner any more now announcements and discussion of items. >> i have one more. >> commissioner melara. >> i think for sometime i've been asked to put on the agenda again, a safe place i think that you know considering you know our press and climate around the nation certainly in san francisco we need to figure out how to help people that maybe in need of assistance this is the great program and we have not moved on it. >> okay so could you with commissioner melara get that on the agenda. >> yes. i've been working with j.c. redman i've identified a person as i mentioned your concern having someone act ownership over the program and not someone kooirl through i identified that person who will be become available in february and so we're wo

of best practices i don't know if commissioner you that want to be the person with the sergeant killshaw and come up with a date i know the first of february but given that there will be one-on-one discussion you may have to schedule it farther out. >> i'll work with secretary kilshaw but the most important issue we will deal that. >> thank you. >> commissioner any more now announcements and discussion of items. >> i have one more. >> commissioner melara. >> i think for sometime i've been asked to put on the agenda again, a safe place i think that you know considering you know our press and climate around the nation certainly in san francisco we need to figure out how to help people that maybe in need of assistance this is the great program and we have not moved on it. >> okay so could you with commissioner melara get that on the agenda. >> yes. i've been working with j.c. redman i've identified a person as i mentioned your concern having someone act ownership over the program and not someone kooirl through i identified that person who will be become available in february and so we're wo

of best practices i don't know if commissioner you that want to be the person with the sergeant killshaw and come up with a date i know the first of february but given that there will be one-on-one discussion you may have to schedule it farther out. >> i'll work with secretary kilshaw but the most important issue we will deal that. >> thank you. >> commissioner any more now announcements and discussion of items. >> i have one more. >> commissioner melara. >> i think for sometime i've been asked to put on the agenda again, a safe place i think that you know considering you know our press and climate around the nation certainly in san francisco we need to figure out how to help people that maybe in need of assistance this is the great program and we have not moved on it. >> okay so could you with commissioner melara get that on the agenda. >> yes. i've been working with j.c. redman i've identified a person as i mentioned your concern having someone act ownership over the program and not someone kooirl through i identified that person who will be become available in february and so we're wo

of best practices i don't know if commissioner you that want to be the person with the sergeant killshaw and come up with a date i know the first of february but given that there will be one-on-one discussion you may have to schedule it farther out. >> i'll work with secretary kilshaw but the most important issue we will deal that. >> thank you. >> commissioner any more now announcements and discussion of items. >> i have one more. >> commissioner melara. >> i think for sometime i've been asked to put on the agenda again, a safe place i think that you know considering you know our press and climate around the nation certainly in san francisco we need to figure out how to help people that maybe in need of assistance this is the great program and we have not moved on it. >> okay so could you with commissioner melara get that on the agenda. >> yes. i've been working with j.c. redman i've identified a person as i mentioned your concern having someone act ownership over the program and not someone kooirl through i identified that person who will be become available in february and so we're wo

code that had 60 pregnancy i have presented and i can get the materials i'll give them to sergeant killshaw. >> thank you, captain o'brien. >> and the next presentation will be to the 2016 third quarter firearm recommendations status for the shooting investigations. >> good evening, commissioners and director hicks and chief chaplin and members of the community happy new year i'm sergeant i'm assigned to the san francisco police department external affairs as the officer-involved shooting penal i'll be presenting the third quarter 2016 ois report the firearm discharge review board just a brief summary the f t rb board was convened on i'm sorry that was the third the second board compound on wednesday, september 2016 and during that f t rb we reviewed a 2014 case as - the competition the voting members with the deputy chief michael redd man and deputy chief and others and some of the advisory members were commissioner dejesus and captain peter watching and gregory yee and low the officer-involved shooting occurred on saturday march 8, 2014 the 13 hundred block of forest street and the finds

in my investigative progresses or charged with violations or disciplinary considerations sergeant killshaw has looked at that and i'll give her time to respond. >> thank you commissioner vice president turman again as you stayed commissioner dejesus had questions went to 30 years me to work with the lieutenant at internal affairs so have the list of members that you are voting to confer the awards that on they did look through the list specifically looking for significant discipline cases against the officers and reported back to the commissioners bans the report the commission revised the list one member who is name was removed from the list your reviewing because that officer has one pending discipline case they commission level all of the other members on the list have no significant pending sorry discipline case and no discipline cases related to the event for which their in the mind. >> no significant what do you mean. >> significant cases that will rise to the level of a commission charges. >> did that mean they are disciplinary basis with the chief. >> i believe there were - 6 of th

in my investigative progresses or charged with violations or disciplinary considerations sergeant killshaw has looked at that and i'll give her time to respond. >> thank you commissioner vice president turman again as you stayed commissioner dejesus had questions went to 30 years me to work with the lieutenant at internal affairs so have the list of members that you are voting to confer the awards that on they did look through the list specifically looking for significant discipline cases against the officers and reported back to the commissioners bans the report the commission revised the list one member who is name was removed from the list your reviewing because that officer has one pending discipline case they commission level all of the other members on the list have no significant pending sorry discipline case and no discipline cases related to the event for which their in the mind. >> no significant what do you mean. >> significant cases that will rise to the level of a commission charges. >> did that mean they are disciplinary basis with the chief. >> i believe there were - 6 of th

code that had 60 pregnancy i have presented and i can get the materials i'll give them to sergeant killshaw. >> thank you, captain o'brien. >> and the next presentation will be to the 2016 third quarter firearm recommendations status for the shooting investigations. >> good evening, commissioners and director hicks and chief chaplin and members of the community happy new year i'm sergeant i'm assigned to the san francisco police department external affairs as the officer-involved shooting penal i'll be presenting the third quarter 2016 ois report the firearm discharge review board just a brief summary the f t rb board was convened on i'm sorry that was the third the second board compound on wednesday, september 2016 and during that f t rb we reviewed a 2014 case as - the competition the voting members with the deputy chief michael redd man and deputy chief and others and some of the advisory members were commissioner dejesus and captain peter watching and gregory yee and low the officer-involved shooting occurred on saturday march 8, 2014 the 13 hundred block of forest street and the finds