side, still, this president, president trump, he appears adamant that he can make a deal with kim jong-unt those talks. >> and i mean really, when we think back to the beginning of this, when north korea was doing a lot of missile tests, and like you said, the rhetoric between the two of them, it was insult back and forth, back and forth. and it was really -- i mean, tensions were high. a lot of people were on edge. they've now met twice, first in singapore, then hanoi. those talks broke down again. now to see president trump, you know, doing this. he is gaining some ground. >> we know the president's a showman. and this was a historic moment at the dmz, pure trump showmanship there. >> yeah, absolutely. >> that's why you see democrats who want to replace him in tara's piece who are criticizing him. there are also obviously republican supporters who are coming out in defense of the president saying that this doesn't do any harm to try to re-engage and try to talk to north korea. but the democrats are saying that the president's coddling dictators. >> yep. he has prided himself on being ab