kim alexis. put her family together. she's featured in the hbo documentary out now about a super models then examine now. for example -- >> it was a walk with growing up and maturing that went from innocent, not knowing anything to thinking that i was better than other people. i realized, i'm not happy that way. i'm happy going home early and working out and just being a mother and being a wife than what made kim happy was more family. >> brian: we're joined by kim alexis and co-author of "beauty to die for," a mystery on what you learned being a super model. welcome back. >> thank you. >> brian: off bunch of kids. have you figured out how many? >> yes. you can count them. >> brian: you have five. >> yeah. i have three sons and two stepdaughters. >> brian: wow. what a busy life you have. >> it's busy, but my youngest son is 18 and he's going off to college. so i'm going to be an empty nester. i started developing and doing things to rebrand myself and get back in the business. >> brian: you are.