difficult to get a clear sense, if you to chong ongoing, the capitol of north korea it is a modern city because it is the movedle city for north korea. and so what kim jong-un wants is to make north korea rich without opening up north korea to foreign ideas. how many of you think do north koreans think have cellphones? actually, there are -- north korea, there's 25 million north koreans and there are 7 to 9 million cellphone users. honever they don't have wi-fi. they can only make domestic calls. put north korean apps in the north korean app store, similar to apple, and they download the stuff and they exchange information, and to your point, they aren't able to see the benefits of a modern technology. in these de facto market economies. they exchange almost 90% of the consumer goods comes from china, and you go there and you sell your rice cake and in exchange you about shampoo and then the next stall. the regime allowed this because the ration system does not exist. if you can't feed your people, they must fend for themselves but the irony is, as more of these marks flourish, the state's ability to control them basically diminishes. so these marke