host: kim gamel is the afghan bureau chief or the associate press. nike for being with us. she joins us from kabul. we continue our conversation with michael o'hanlon from the brookings institution. we go to larry joining us on the republican line. with all dueanlon, respect, personal outrage does not trump physics nor does it knowledge and the evidence that they tore down building seven on 9/11. host: this is a different topic and we move on to jesse in michigan. caller: >> good morning. good morning. i have heard of different in afghanistan -- in afghanistan, i want to ask -- what is -- what is so special about afghanistan, all these wars going on. thank you, jesse, we will get a response. why afghanistan? guest: there have been a lot of conflicts in afghanistan and in the 19th century, we talked about the great game with the british and russian empires colliding in afghanistan, and standing up for their own country and pushing out these foreign powers. but in terms of the modern era it does begin with the soviet invasion. ae soviets tried to install true communist govern

host: kim gamel is the afghan bureau chief or the associate press. nike for being with us. she joins us from kabul. we continue our conversation with michael o'hanlon from the brookings institution. we go to larry joining us on the republican line. with all dueanlon, respect, personal outrage does not trump physics nor does it knowledge and the evidence that they tore down building seven on 9/11. host: this is a different topic and we move on to jesse in michigan. caller: >> good morning. good morning. i have heard of different in afghanistan -- in afghanistan, i want to ask -- what is -- what is so special about afghanistan, all these wars going on. thank you, jesse, we will get a response. why afghanistan? guest: there have been a lot of conflicts in afghanistan and in the 19th century, we talked about the great game with the british and russian empires colliding in afghanistan, and standing up for their own country and pushing out these foreign powers. but in terms of the modern era it does begin with the soviet invasion. ae soviets tried to install true communist govern

host: kim gamel is the afghan bureau chief or the associate press. nike for being with us. she joins us from kabul. we continue our conversation with michael o'hanlon from the brookings institution. we go to larry joining us on the republican line. caller: mr. hanlon, with all due respect, personal outrage does not trump physics nor does it knowledge and the evidence that they tore down building seven on 9/11. host: this is a different topic and we move on to jesse in michigan. caller: >> good morning. good morning. i have heard of different characters in afghanistan -- in afghanistan, i want to ask -- what is -- what is so special about afghanistan, all these wars going on. host: thank you, jesse, we will get a response. why afghanistan? guest: there have been a lot of conflicts in afghanistan and in the 19th century, we talked about the great game with the british and russian empires colliding in afghanistan and standing up for their own country and pushing out these foreign powers. but in terms of the modern era it does begin with the soviet invasion. the soviets tried t