kim garcia-meza to that seat, especially given my background, immigrant parent ts, chinese was my first language, providing for that cultural -- or bilingual opportunity for the young students, i think, is really important tosh able to preserve that cultural heritage but allow them to assimilate into a new country, i appreciate that focus and i would be happy to see kim garcia-meza in seat 6 and in terms of seat 7, i'm really torn, i like both kathie herrera-autumn and fonda david son, they bring different experiences but both are good to this committee, so supervisor avalos? >> well, thank you, and you actually with the seat 7 was the one that was most difficult for me and i do appreciate the work and the experience of both patricia sullivan and kim garcia-meza and because of her background in bilingual education, i thought that was going to be a useful, important aspect to have on the committee, on the advisory committee, and i'm familiar with her work as well, so but personally, so i was going to be supporting kim garcia-meza and it's tough because i felt ms. sullivan would be great