she's kim gordon, this is "overheard." [applause]. >> actually, there are not two sides to every issue. >> so i guess we can't fire him now. >> i guess we can't fire him now. the night that i win the emmy. >> being on the supreme court was an improbable dream. >> it's hard work and it's controversial. >> without information, there is no freedom. and it's journalists who provide that information. >> window rolls down and this guy says, hey, he goes to 11:00. [laughter]. >> kim gordon, welcome. >> thank you. >> congratulations on this book. i'm sure it's going to be a big hit. it must have been fun to write. >> parts of it were fun. >> yeah. >> parts were boring. >> boring? parts of it were boring to write? >> yeah. >> to go back through all those years? >> well, there's just this certain nuts and bolts of writing -- >> right. >> where you just have to explain things or try and get a lot of information in that -- it's not particularly -- you know, it's challenging. >> right. did you write it for yourself or did you write it