also joining us on "the communicators," kim hart. >> in the decision, they bring up the media landscape that would have been almost unrecognizable in 1978. how do you see this evolving media landscape that is changing on an almost daily basis -- there are lots more opportunities for entertainment on the internet, cable, broadcast -- where do you see this discussion evolving? what is next for broadcasters? >> when the supreme case -- when the supreme court decided the case of george carlin with pacifica, it said that broadcast television was uniquely pervasive. it has become anything but, because virtually everybody has cable. i think young people cannot tell the difference between whether they are on a cable or broadcast channel. you have the internet. there is the oddity of, if you were to broadcast it on the traditional standards that the commission used until the decision came down and you would bleep out words on the broadcast, you could then get on the computer one hour later, watch the exact same show, and it would not be subject to any of the bleeping. the media has converged in