i think we had some sense of how kim jong-il, the former leader, operated, but there's a lot that we don't know about the current leader, and his actions, as you noted earlier, have really been ranging, far beyond what we've seen in the past with north korea. i think in the end, he does want all of these western accoutrements of life, whether it's basketball or amusement parks, but he also wants his nuclear weapons and his ballistic missiles.

picking a bad guy is like picking between kim jong-il 1 or kim jong-il 2.oby, nobody flies more than you and we say we're lucky. >> just do this, go on united airlines, to new york today. $249, and get your rental car and hotel at $300. and they now have a business model that works and the model if you want to get on early, pay extra. if you want to bring two gigantic bags, pay extra. it's a great bargain and if you play smart and bring one carry on, great deal. >> gary b, gouged or paying fair prices? >> probably paying below he fair prices and on monday morning, i could fly from d.c. to l.a. for $190. can you get to d.c. to l.a. at anytime in your life for $190? my god, i remember growing up, you couldn't afford to go from l.a. to the east coast. >> here we go. >> brenda: you were in the model t then, weren't you? >> look, if the airlines were making a lot of money like a google and apple, i would say they're gouging. they can barely get by. >> brenda: but, jonas, basically, they're keeping the air fares low by adding on the extra fees. >> no such thing a

we had kim jong il commit to it in beijing and committing to the country into a denuclearization. kim jong il has never said that he has permitted -- he's prepared to denuclearize our -- he needs to commit to that a joint statement as his father didn't commit to the denuclearize agent to a nuclear north korea, given all the reasons we discussed this morning with a potential for proliferation and what it means to the whole regime the nuclear proliferation regime and the nuclear arms race that would engender if they maintain those weapons, it's just it's not tolerable. and that's one would hope that is the ultimate. but for that they need economic assistance. ultimately when they get their act together on the a list of activities they can become a normal state and then that to, the unification issue because this is the korean peninsula, and so forth about i think the first has to be coming back to something the committed to in 2005 at the of conveniently walked away from it saying they are a nuclear weapon state talking about if you will disarmament issues. while it's not nonprolifer

over the years, north korea under kim jong-un and before him, his father kim jong-il have made threatsore, but there's growing concern among some, because of the unpredictability of this new leader, the son of kim jong-il, they consider him to be extremely dangerous, and they're taking a very close look at this. they're so concerned that just last week the u.s. and the south korean government signed a new military agreement that in the event of any kind of attack by north korea, that the two allies, the u.s. and south korea could work together in a possible counter attack. so people are taking this very seriously. they see no imminent threat. they see no indications from the south koreans that they are actually preparing to stage any attacks, but nevertheless everybody is taking this threat seriously and they're on a high aall right of watch, at least. jim mickle shells can i from the pentagon, we appreciate it. thank you so much. >> okay, luke. >>> there was a jobs for our heroes job fair today, an effort to help veterans and spouses find jobs. as meeting the goal of hiring 1,000 vete

kim jong-il did that and intensified the rhetoric and they did bellicose incidents in the yellow sea. they said, this is what i want. this is the typical posture. very few know the end-game. the end-game is he's said he wants a negotiation with the u.s. they desperately need food and energy and the sanctions off and part of the country is starving and what worries me is the generals and hard-liners and they are pushing kim jong-un to a corner. >> is the u.s. right to be carrying out exercises with south korea? >> you have to have a response. it is a message to south korea and japan that we stand by our agreements. those sorties were not live. but at the same time -- north korea engages in negtivative rhedoric and there needs to be a response. what we need is china, instead of saying let's be peaceful, china should get the north koreans to calm down. >> governor richardson, thank you for joining us. let's take a look at other news. several shi'a mosques were hit in bagdhad and kirkuk. in recent months, sunni militants of al-qaeda increased attacks. chinese state reports that a landslid

kim jong-il admitted they have abducted them, and they returned five. many parents of the victims believe that the claims are not true. they're still trying to find out what happened to their relatives. shigeo iizuka's sister was abducted. >> translator: we want them to think about what they can do right now. >> talks between tokyo and pyongyang have been stalled because of north korea's nuclear and missile programs. >>> chess fans around the globe watched in 1997 as world champion gary kasparov lost to a super computer named deep blue. fans of a japanese variant of the game followed along last year when a retired master lost to another computer. he died in december of cancer. he left other players this message. >> he was already retired when he lost, so no professional player has lost to a computer. but that could well change with a competition under way now. nhk world reports. >> reporter: shogi players face an endless amount of choices on every move. the game has turned to the tenth power more patterns than chess. shogi shares the same roots as chess

kim jong un may be playing to a domestic audience, using the hysteria to rally his people. security officials warn he may be more reckless even than his father, the late kim jong il leading to fears of more conflict on the korean peninsula. >> security officials are bracing for a fresh volley of violent rhetoric. brian? >> ian williams, seoul, south korea, for us tonight. ian, thanks. >>> another dangerous hot spot the u.s. has to keep a close eye on is syria where at least a dozen students were killed today when damascus university came under fire right in the heart of the capital. mortar strikes have increased in and around damascus in recent days as rebels fighting president assad's forces try to enter that city again. >>> as the holiest days of the catholic church calendar year are upon us, pope francis took part in a holy thursday ritual, a show of humility mirroring christ washing the feet of his disciples prior to his crucifixion. he went to a juvenile detention center in rome today, washed and kissed the feet of 12 young inmates held there. the banks were open in cyprus again today for the first time in almost two weeks after political leaders there accep

while there he and kim jong il bonded at game and had an epic feast before leaving the oppressive nucleard proud man. he loves him. the chief fox report correspondent jonathan hunt. it is sort of astounding that dennis rodman has more contact with this nuclear leader than anyone else in our country. >> it is astounding and clearly they are, at least in dennis rodman's eyes b.f.f.'s right now. the court side chemistry was on display for all to sees a they watched members of the harlem grown trotters play along north korea's best basketball players. we have known for some time, of course, that kim the younger is a huge fan obsessed with american basketball stars. now we know that at least one of those former basketball stars is obsessed with north korean dictators. listen. >> he is an awesome kid. is he an awesome guy. one thing about -- no one man can do anything. not one man. and the one thing, he is proud. his country like him. not like him, love him. love him. guess what? i love him. i guy is awesome. >> awesome. it's important to point out that we have no evidence whatsoever that denni

i mean, i had some really remarkable discussions with kim jong il.e in the middle of discussions with them. they said that they would -- we could leave our troops in south korea, we came back, americans were confused about the election of 2000 and i'm sure that kim jong il was also, and i do think it was unfortunate that the cards we left on the table weren't picked up. but the story on north korea is a complicated one of threats, discussions and diplomacy, you're dealing with very erratic leadership in north korea and what concerns me now is that the kind of language that is coming out of north korea, i think, is well-balanced by what the president decided on the mobile missiles. >> i'm puzzled by the language coming out of washington. i would like to see struck from the language of our diplomacy "acceptable" and "unacceptable" last week, the following was said the united states will not accept north korea as a nuclear state. unless i'm missing something, it has been a nuclear state for more than half a decade. what does it mean? obviously, we have

but fear he may be more reckless than his father, the late kim jong-il. the big worry is that a local incident here, a skirmish or miscalculation could quickly escalate. ian williams, nbc news, seoul. >>> u.s. military officials today released the identity of the navy s.e.a.l. killed in a parachuting training exercise. brett shadel was a decorated member of the navy's elite team. he was killed on thursday. he and another s.e.a.l. reportedly collided during a routine free fall in a parachute exercise. he served in iraq and afghanistan. there are some reports he was one of the members of the team that carried out the raid on osama bin laden's compound, but that has not been confirmed. >>> in san francisco, a 19-year-old college student is dead after being shot in the mission district. it happened around 3:00 this morning near 24th and bryant streets, not far from sf general. kimberly tere is there now with more. >> reporter: diane, that young man was shot in front of his home while on his spring break. his family tells us that his father heard the gunshots

. >> kim jong-il predicted this could be an ice breaker between north korea and america? >> well, there are a lot of things that have to happen before you break the ice between the two countries. the main thing is north korea has to tone down its actions, testing missiles toward the u.s. and japan. >> north korea's top nuclear negotiator was sitting close to dennis rodman. anything you can read into that? >> i think it shows what importance he plays in the regime, and maybe it was a ben sent to the united states that maybe we could have a fresh round of talks. but it is hard to interpret their signals. >> thank you for joining us. >> from the old couple to a story which may make parents think twhiss beforehanding over their ipad to a child. one managed to rack up a bill of $2,5 huckabee visiting a paid gaming site. >> there are some games that are free, but others aren't. this fan is dead keen on zombies and found himself an onlinedom business game, not realizing he was running up a bill for thousands. >> i just clicked on it because it said it was free, and i gave it to

i mean it's a journalist's dream to be able to meet kim jong-il -- kim jong-un, rather, face to face, many diplomats would fight for that chance as well. and here dennis rodman is the first american ever to meet face to face with him. what do you make of it? >> i don't. i just don't. i'm so thoroughly embarrassed for us. i'm so thoroughly embarrassed for north korea. i'm so thoroughly embarrassed about this conversation. it's not really talking about anything serious. this is a publicity stunt. >> i'm with lz on this one. it's all i can do to stop my eyes from rolling to the back of my head when we discuss this. if you want, left's talk about his jacket and his choice of clothes. but, you know, we're not going to send pewee herman to negotiate the peace between israel and palestine. and we're not going to send mickey mouse to go solve the issue with syria. this is a joke, this is not serious, it's not diplomacy, i think -- if he'd like to stay in north korea and play one on one, with that dictator, i think it's fine with a lot of us. >>> all right. the forced spending cuts were perfec

north korea, president clinton went over to secure their release and much of the world thought that kim jong-il, kim jong un's father was on his death bed. for dennis rodman to secure that kind of information in some ways is pretty invaluable. >> laura, is there a danger, though, in kind of giving people around the world misperceptions of what life in north korea is like? i mean, most north koreans aren't going to be able to attend a basketball game like the folks in that stadium who i imagine were high party officials or had one reason or another that they were able to be there. a lot of north koreans i have talked to who have escaped concentration camps are upset that the media focuses on the new younger leader with his wife and pictures of them visiting amusement parks and gives a misperception of what life is like for most people. >> kim jong-un is trying to portray himself as this more jovial leader. more in the vein of his grandfather, kim all ul sung. and we are sort of guilty of it when we shine the light on this dennis rodman visit because that's the information that is disseminated wh

while there he went to a basketball game with leader kim jong-il-- excuse me kim jong un.here needs to be a dialog, tensions after north korea's provocative nuclear test, but rodman says he knows how to mend the relationship. >> he wants obama to do one thing, call him. he loves basketball. and obama loves basketball. let's start there. let's start there. >> harris: u.s. state department criticized north korea for wining and dining rodman while its own people are going hungry. well, after a shaky start to the mission, the spacex dragon capsule successfully docked with the international space station. the privately owned dragon delivered its one ton load earlier today bringing equipment, clothing and even fresh fruit, apples, from one of the spacex employee's orchard for the six astronauts on board. and the dragon will remain most of march before returning to earth with scientific samples, food containers. and they plan to investigate what caused the dragon's thrusters to fail shortly after launch. they worked for hours to work that problem and salvage the mission. how can

for example absolutely when kim jong il the late korean leader said that the country needs to embrace the new high tech technology the new high tech era probably his son who is now in charge of the country took these words very seriously recently saw a visit of one of the google stop executives to the country something unthinkable you know which is crazy if you think about it three four years ago then we saw visit over from boy in the n.b.a. player former n.b.a. player dennis rodman who actually said kim jong un his friend for life so all this shows that that north korea wants to open up to the world the question is certainly to what extent the country will open itself of course and i'm really curious how you say this whole pirate bay story what exactly is going on there as. well first we heard a statement published on pirate base website that i quote today we can reveal that we have been invited by the leader of the republic of korea to fight our battles from the network it is ironic in many ways because pirate bay as we know has always been prosecuted globally and north korea is als

we at kim jong-il commit to every kim jong-il in beijing committing to comprehensive the new position. tim johnson has never said he is how he is prepared to denuclearize or his prepared. kim jong-un needs to commit to that joint statement as his father did, at commit to denuclearization. a nuclear north korea given all the reason recent we discussed s morning with potential for proliferation is just come and what it means for the ntt, the whole regime, the nuclear proliferation regime and the nuclear arms race that would engender if they would retain those weapons, it's just not, it's not tolerable. and that should be and one would hope that's where the dprk is. that's the ultimate. or they need security assurances, ultimately when they get their act together on a list of activities they can become a normal state. then with the two koreas, the unification issue because this is one korea, this is the korean peninsula and so forth. i think the first of has to be coming back to something they committed to in 2005, and they conveniently walk away from it saying now they are a nuclear wea

military officials we've been talking to, is that we're dealing with a 28-year-old, 29-year-old son of kim jong-ilredictability at this point, they feel makes him probably more dangerous at this point than his father. but, again, we go back to the idea that this, for the time being, anyway, appears to be more saber rattling than anything. and quite frankly, the responses from the u.s. military, in terms of flying b-2 bombers, announcing that they're going to beef up their missile defenses there in alaska, is aimed in part at north korea but also at south korea and japan as an indication, look, we know that you're right there in the gun sights of north korea, but if anything happens, we're there to help you. >> jim, you anticipated my next question. nbc's jim miklashevski, thank you so much. >>> next, a week of intolerance comes to a close. stay with us. >> new standard for recognizing marriage is whether or not the couple would make good parents? you, scalia, should get cable. easter's here! and we're talking with laura about the walmart low price guarantee, backed by ad match. their ad price is t

strike us cities in response to american stealth bomber flights over the korean peninsula leader kim jong il would warn that military bases in the pacific and south korea would be primary targets in a potential strike with russia voiced concerns urging all sides to prevent the situation from escalating. a suicide is killed ten people injured over thirty near the u.s. consulate in pakistan's northwestern city of push the attacker rode a motorbike to a nearby security checkpoint before triggering the explosion most of the victims were civilians the taliban said it was behind the blast. a sixty story buildings collapsing tons of nails commercial capital data salaam it's killed at least four people rescuers are at the same scouring through the rubble with the help of local residents as they try to reach dozens that are still thought to be trapped underneath a lot more than forty people are missing and it's feared the death toll is sadly set to rise. it's twenty seven and a half minutes past nine now era moscow soon a frank discussion of what's at stake for israel in the civil war raging across s

kim jong-il used murdered effect itchly and murdered a number ever americans and south koreas but hooway with it kim jong-un has to make himself appear better than his dad and he may miscal cuate. he don't know about him and we don't know how experienced he's going to be in things like this . this is the reason why it is more dangerous than in the past. >> how do you think that the u.s. is responding so far? >> we are reassuring the south korea with the overflights of b52s and need to reassure the south koreanings. but we need to talk to the chinese. you can be friends with us or friends with the north koreans. but not both at the same time and the other thing we need to do is step up our watch on north korea shipments and don't want them selling to al qaeda or iran. it is not just a north asia problem but a global one. >> we need to talk to china in a specific way and you are either a friend or not and with us or against us. but china has so far ignored concerns from the united states at this point. what makes you think they will really listen to what the u.s. has to say about this?

this is video... [ music ] >> again this is file video in front of north korean president kim jong ilthreatened a cease- fire which ended the civil war with the south. despite the strong talk and rhetoric, they are still years a way to launch an accurate nuclear missile. but they have noticed an increase in military and the drills are unusually grant in scale. they are -- grand in scale. banks which funnel money into the country are being closely monitored as well as cargo and china also supports them as north korea continues to advance weapons technology but they say they will strike back if north korea attacks. >>> we are hearing from the father of a woman killed by lion at cat haven which is a big cat sanctuary located 45 miles east of fresno. she was found inside the lion enclosure. she had been attacked by a lion named couse couse and she was volunteering at the park. yesterday we spoke to her father on the phone and he said his daughter gave him a tour of the park on new year's day. >> i got to meet couse couse but that place said they wouldn't let you go into the cages and she

kim jong-un and president obama together. >> president obama should call kim kim jong-il to make it happen. >> that coat was less flamboyantrom any the pope was wearing. from the pope on down. >> and vice president biden, your favorite person he will lead the delegation. is this a what could possibly go wrong situation? >> well, if you bring in dennis rad money. dennis rodman. rodman, you could be right, a young, naive black man mostly known for smoking pot and leaving foreign policy, what could go wrong? >> and winning a know -- nobel peace prize. >> as much as we make fun of dennis rodman, his policy of having the north koreans talk with obama is not that far off from what hillary clinton has vowed and what barack obama himself wanted us to do. he wants to pick up the phone and talk to these guys. he just thinks i haven't made peace yet because we haven't met each other. just think, rodman is articulating the obama policy. >> rick, i wanted to ask you, venezuela's acting president since hugo chavez died. he credited chavez for the election of a south american pope. he said, quote, our commander ascended to the heights an

as you pointed out, when kim jong-il emphasized the military over the party. s important for a new north korean leader. this is the second time you have a succession in the kim family the first time this has happened in a communist regime. checking the box and pressing the military and this is typical behavior for dictators. if you create an external threat it distracts people from the horrible job they are doing as far as a government. >> gregg: they have not perfected their weapon to put them on a long range delivery system to hit the united states. what about 30,000 american troops in neighboring south korea? >> they are vulnerable as in the u.s. territory of guam and japanese allies. there is a tendency in the state department when i was there and throughout allied foreign ministries and even defense ministries to chuckle at north korea and its ambitions. but it had a minor nuclear test in 2006 and last better, three kilotons and recently up to 7 kilotons which is half the power of hiroshima and same progress on long-range missiles. they have successful ins

plus, we're getting our first picture of the north korean leader kim jong il meeting with the famous un. dennis rodman is meeting with kim the younger. they make quite a couple. where is the wedding dress? ÷÷ >> shepard: the obama administration late today urged the u.s. supreme court to overturn california's ban on gay marriage. this was the final day for the department of justice to file a brief regarding proposition 8 as they call it. voters approve the ban back in '08. a federal court struck it down and the justins are set to hear arguments next month. legal experts say their ruling could effect the legislation of same sex marriages all across the country. shannon bream with more from our washington newsroom tonight. shannon? >> shep, just last may the president said he had not gotten directly involved in this debate it is a mistake to try to make traditionally that has been a state nish a national issue. but today's filing means the administration is now doing just that, filing this brief in favor of overturning that california measure defining marriage as between one man and

. >>> the former nba star flew to north korea and he bonded with kim jong il over playing basketball and dinner. later he called him an awesome guy who doesn't want war with the u.s. and does want a phone call from president barack obama. they should focus on its citizens and not on celebrity sporting events. >>> they want to help cell phone users change sporting events. they should be able to unlock them and use them on the network of their choice. right now people who use them are facing criminal prosecution. >>> a program is extending its reach from landlines to cell phones. eligible people will not have to pay for cell phones. coming up at 4:45 we will tell you who qualifies for this brief service. >>> i want to know, it is relatively quiet this morning. >> things will change but right now we have off to a good start and we have been hearing rosemary say the commute could be a little bit wet and right now traffic is moving along nicely as you drive through. also this morning, we are looking at the commute at the bay bridge toll plaza and live traffic here before you get to the br

that's why at kim jong il's funeral they cried. >> kimberlydo you like this story?? >> greg: you dated him for six months. >> kimberly: absolutely not. that was carmen electra. >> greg: you dated carmen? >> kimberly: no. i'm in my office with her, have a picture. i'm not even answering this. the point is that it made mockery of the whole situation. when the people in north korea are suffering. 35% suffered from malnutrition. they are serious numbers. this shows a bizarre -- >> juan: this is a biggest threat with world diplomacy. givenbe their proximity and what goes on with china. they are launching missile. if they have a real missile, they are a threat to japan and the world. >> eric: do you have a picture of that? the bow? >> kimberly: no, the bow. they bow to one another. >> eric: obama had a bow -- just you don't stop. >> juan: one more thing. don't go away. we're coming right back and you will love it. ♪ ♪ >> eric: time for one more thing, you are slim and trim you must live in a gym kim. >> kimberly: i haven't heard that since sixth grade. fill it to the rim

he probably knows that. >> kim jong-il has been clamping down on border crossers.he number has decreased by 100%. the number of defectors coming to south korea is less than 50% in 2012 than it was in 2011. he is more impressive than his father. let's we will go now to mr. disanto's. >> i think this hearing has been useful. it is important that we adopt policies to combat the illicit activity of this criminal regime. , is respect to kim jong-un ow he solidifying his hold on power vis-À-vis when he first came in? changed the number ofhas ministers. he has moved people around a bit. the people around him and with the most recent visit of this an dennis rodman, a number of those prayers are those who have interested but the u.s.. is that messaging? it probably is to the u.s. the people around him are more of hardliners. one would have thought 12 months ago he was trying to put on the sidelines. >> it is a common misperception the notion that there is some type of policy difference or conflict between the leadership and the north korean ella terry. -- north korean milit

it had come directly from kim jong-il to me. i got there, steve hadley took a look at it and said, no, we won't talk to them. talking to them will be rewarding bad behavior. i was in and out of the white house in 20 minutes without a single question having been asked. the unwillingness to talk to them despite the aberrations has put us where we are are. >> can this regime survive? what is the end game? such an impoverished country. this seems to be a military firmly in control. there are no dissidents groups you hear about because they're all dead or in jail. >> i don't think there will be a collapse in north korea. the chinese will not allow that to happen, i think that's what they fear most. we have a young man who will be around for several decades who is looking for some external support for what he's trying to do. the only people who have given him that so far are the russians, who canceled a $7 billion debt that north korea owed them, which was a very estute move. so, i hope if we can get through this period of training, i

improving the relationship with the new young leader of north korea who took over from his father, kim jong-il went nowhere. the north koreans rebuffed that approach, and it very much broke down to the fact that you may want to engage another country but it really depends on whether they want to respond to that offer of engagement. you know they're facing the same issue now with iran. it is really up to the iranians whether they want to respond to the offer of engagement, and in burma, for example, you saw that the burmese themselves decided it was best for their country to open up, and to respond to u.s. offers of engagement. we've seen the amazing transformation in burma. it's still an ongoing process towards opening up, but it seems to be moving forward. it's always difficult to figure out exactly how another country is going to respond to your overtures, but certainly north korea was not one of clinton's successes. >> michael: yes, it's sort of a microcosm of what president obama has been dealing with the congress. if the congress doesn't want to deal with him there is only so much you can

first known american to publicly meet with kim after he took control after the death of his father, kim jong il. >> eric: now to john kerry, in egypt, wrapping up a meeting with muhammad morsi, in the first trip to the region as america's top diplomat. it comes ahead of president obama's planned visit to israel that will be the president's first as the commander in chief. he was there as a senator. what can we expect? we have a former israeli ambassador to the united nations here in new york this morning. welcome. >> great to see you. >> eric: good to see you. we saw donis rodman. i can't get over that -- you are a diplomat. what goes on when someone like dennis rodman can meet with the north korean and the they are launching nuclear tests? >> lyou know, i think the koreans and the north koreans are very good at brainwashing and i think something must have happened to dennis rodman while he was there. this is a bizarre statement. we did see sports play a role -- ping pong, table tennis, played a role in opening the gates of china to the united states. but i thinks china was a totally different

he even met with north korea's new leader, kim jong-il.'s see what happened on that trip. >> the one thing that i said was, we talked about -- you can see the clips, or whatever. he loves basketball. i said, obama loves basketball. let's start there. let's start there. if you see the quotes in the papers, he says that. he says that. why do you guys love basketball so much. >> i mean, lz, i don't even know where to begin. what do you make of this? i've been to north korea twice. lucky enough to have been. it's a journalist's dream to be able to meet kim jong-un face-to-face. many diplomats would fight for that chance as well. and here dennis rodman is the first american ever to meet face-to-face with him. what do you make of it? >> i don't. i just don't. i'm so thoroughly embarrassed for us, so thoroughly embarrassed for north korea, so thoroughly embarrassed about this conversation. because it's not really talking about anything serious. this is like a publicity stunt. i grew up in detroit. i loved dennis rodman the basketball player. and

there was the famous basketball that was actually given to kim jong-il, that was given to him, signedn, basketball and the bulls, in particular, have become sort of you know, i wouldn't say heroes, but you know, very, very -- respected within north korea. so we came back and we thought hey, you know, why don't we put together a team. go over there, play some basketball. you know, work with the kids. and you know, see what comes up. we thought that kim jong-un would come to the game. but we were not sure. then he showed up to the game. had a blast. was hanging out with dennis rodman and they were enjoying it. and then invited the whole crew, the vice crew and the globetrotters and dennis back to his palace for a big bang and a hang and lots of speeches, and apparently it went great. >> you know, that is really amazing, we show you pictures of dennis and the harlem globetrotters. i'll give them a shout out, moose weeks and buckets blakes, they are all there right now. by the way, that interpreter that you see there, that minder, when i was there, he was the same guy. very nice guy. what

this little lad has declared that he wants to issue -- >> chris: kim jong il. >> the threats have goneso threatening is that china seems less able to control north korea. they tried to block the latest nuclear test and were unable to do so. then we have to wean off the whole cycle of they issue the provokations and someone comes forward with chick aid. economic aid. the two issues. speak of iran the chief of the strategic command said we may need the missile defense on the east coast for iran. this is something that we are going to have to be dealing with on both fronts with both countries. but the missile defense they have a limited ability. what are they like 50% accuracy effectiveness. you do have to keep pushing on all fronts. >> chris: karl, all this comes as the president heads to israel for his first visit as president and in an interview you with israeli television this week he was asked about the threat from iran. take a look. >> now, we think that it would take over a year or so for iran to actually develop a nuclear weapon but obviously we don't want to cut it too close. >>

and at the time, you said, "the former president did spend time with the korean leader, kim jong-il, but he did appear to be in control of his government and sounded very, very reasoned in terms of his conversation." now his son is in charge, and the american who seems to have spent time with him, the only one who has, is dennis rodman. and his official state media released a bizarre video a while ago, set to the music "we are the world," showing destruction of what appears to be, new york city, sort of goes up in flames. a very bizarre video, state media in north korea. does it worry you that the u.s. has no real contact with this guy? >> we have, in the sense of direct contact, it would be better if we did, i suppose. but there are ways to message governments that we don't get along with indirectly, and those messages are transmitted back and forth on a regular basis. but for a young man like kim jong-un, this is particularly an adjustment period. and there's a risk of miscalculation, and that would be very serious for north korea and south korea, if somebody miscalculated. >> yes,