we have an expert on that country and a biographer of kim jong-il. we have the founder of geopolitical futures. they both join us now. first you, michael. as an expert in north korea, what is the point of this exercise. the kim regime obviously thinks it has some strategic purpose. what would that be. >> when you're trying to analyze north korea, trying to read a book upside down in a mirror underwater. you have to read backwards. but i realized is this. north korea has always asserted their right under their sovereignty, just like the u.s., to engage in shipment and sales of weapons. what we are seeing, in my opinion, incidentally or by

we have an expert on that country and a biographer of kim jong-il. have the founder of geopolitical futures. they both join us now. first you, michael. as an expert in north korea, what is the point of this exercise. the kim regime obviously thinks it has some strategic purpose. what would that be. >> when you're trying to analyze north korea, trying to read a book upside down in a mirror underwater. you have to read backwards. but i realized is this. north korea has always asserted their right under their sovereignty, just like the u.s., to engage in shipment and sales of weapons. what we are seeing, in my opinion, incidentally or by accident, is north korea having commercials for their product. they are showing that their missiles worked, and they are also showing that their missiles allow them, a country the size of -- and basically be invincible. this is a great sales pitch for them to show that they have weapons that they can sell and make a lot of money off of, and they realize that is the case. it's been fascinating. a dangerous sales techniqu

that's the ultimate threat for kim jong-il is that he wants to stay in power.t's his main interest. how do we find a way to get him to back off his nuclear ambitions while making them feel comfortable that he'll be protected and stay in power that probably involves china but so far, china has not been helpful to write exactly, david, we know they've had in their appetite but here's something else the president said in the rose garden. he accused the north korean regime and according here no regard for the safety and security of the his people or its neighbors. how do you deal with the regime that has no regard for his own people let alone the rest of the world? >> a number of regimes we deal with that. not free is not the only regime i got. north korea's human rights record is despicable and we saw that with the return recently of the american from ohio who passed away which is a tragic and significant atrocities. it's symbolic of what they do to their own people all the time. anyone who speaks out of the regime and that has to change. it's difficult for us to

the problem with north korea is, this family, starting with kim jong il, and also kim jong-un, they are seen as a religious family. almost like a deity. you have to replace them with someone that north koreans will accept of similar like. instead of saying, where going to take him out, you have to make sure that it something that will stabilize the region, the people will be accepting of, while at the same time pursuing the parallel path of the economic sanctions and putting pressure. we need to put pressure on europe as well. they can't be doing any business with them, because if you sit there at the table with kim jong-un and you placate, then you are looking at two very disastrous results. you're looking at a nuclear iran, thanks to the pastor administration, and you are looking at nuclear north korea. those are both untenable options. you can't do that. put pressure on europe, because they don't want a nuclear iran that can reach them as well. they are also sitting ducks. we have to work together, cooperatively, to put a stop to this, and i think there really is the will to do this

failed and frankly that patience is over i give the highest honor to our respected great leader kim jong il who made our country a powerful nuclear giant having the most powerful intercontinental ballistic missile . the united states is prepared to use the full range of our capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies one of our capabilities lies with our considerable military forces we will use them if we must. our respected leader said the u.s. would be unhappy to witness north korea's strategic power on its independence day and call them frequently sending big and small new packages or when it comes to nuclear arms north korea and the u.s. are far from being equally matched pyongyang still doesn't have any missiles capable of sending warheads overcome purple distances the furthest that you've ever muller's is nine hundred thirty kilometers which is nowhere near the range of u.s. warheads so will the threats ever really amount to anything we put thought to gregory elect from the korea policy institute. i think it's a great deal exaggerated. first of all the croissant fourteen missile t

tweeted that this event would not happen now that it has tweeted this about north korean leader kim jong il saying does this guy have anything better to do with his life hard to believe that south korea and japan will put up with this much longer. the u.s. army and south korea's military carried out a joint military drill wednesday in response to pyongyang launching tactical missiles into the waters off the east coast of the korean peninsula i think what the u.s. and south korea are doing is basically flexing their muscle to show we're not afraid of north korea we also have big bad weapons but what they're doing is fire with fire in a region that is a powder keg north korea hasn't gained any useful military capability here. should they ever launch a strike the consequences would be catastrophic for north korea so they don't expect them to gain any military advantage what they're looking for and what they've achieved now is status as a nuclear power and that status will convey political advantages clearly washington moscow and beijing have to cooperate on this issue to bring the right kind o

kim il-song. you'll recall the grief followed by days of mourning. and mod more subdued displays as they go to large statues of kim and his son and successor kim jong-ilow kim jong-un. >> and many leaders believe that kim jong-un belief that he has a military posture that's reckless. here is general jack keane. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. elizabeth: and after the 4th of july. and many say the united states was caught flat-footed and watching the advancement and doing nothing. i want to hear about the criticism. >> and there was a policy of taking no action whatsoever and patience, and some tough sanctions was a failed policy. and this kim jong-un gets a lot of publicity because of the reckless rhetoric. he really has changed the strategy from his grandfather who we showed here. her grandfather believed nuclear weapons were need today preserve the regime and if they developed it in secret the united states would acquiesce to that capability and that's the fact. what what they did. they developed in secret and acquiesc acquiesced. and this leader doesn't think that. he doesn't think that a nuclear weapon on north korea would save the regime.

. >> during the 90s when we hit them with sanctions, kim jong-il let up to 0% of miss population starve. this is a -- up to 90% of his population starve. dagen: i think under the bush administration it kind of died down. there was an anti-proliferation dragnet. as you say, they are trying to sell these arms to the world. we could stop that. >> we are treating the symptoms and not the disease, beijing. dagen: how do we deal with beijing? >> i have no idea. >> why is he in warsaw. but using that as a backdrop and saying this is a symbol of hope. this is a symbol of what happens when we come together to overthrow a dictator. look what we can do together. to me that was a big signal he's not going to go out there and say we are not going to put the united states out there alone. if he thinks healthcare is complicated, good night, what we have to deal with. dagen: china wants us out of northeast asia. china and russia are like this. you throw in iran, that's another axis. >> how does that affect north korea? north korea is a threat to all of them. that's where nato and other world powers cou

. >> i don't know, kim jong-il. greg: final thoughts, next.w, and greg: i have 30 seconds. if you want to see tyrus you have to watch it glow it's a great tv show on netflix. if you want to see kat watch the specialist and maybe they'll be talking about a new book. [laughter] if you want to see joe, go to where he's performing and if you want to see amy, look her up, she is on the prowl. [laughter] honor our veterans and wounded warriors. we will see you tomorrow. thanks for watching. gillian: thanks. >>> president trump will take the stage next hour to honor american veterans as we celebrate the birth of our nation on this july 4th holiday weekend. i'm laura ingall in for julie banderas and this is the fox report. the president is in route from his golf club in new jersey to the kennedy center for the performing arts in washington. that is where he will speak at tonight's celebrate freedom rally, put on by the evangelical megachurch first baptist dallas. the president has plenty of work waiting for him when it is all over like the republican

tweeted that this event would not happen now that it has tweeted this about north korean leader kim jong il saying does this guy have anything better to do with his life hard to believe that south korea and japan will put up with this much longer.

raise the glass to kim jong il and nothing happened as a consequence.e basically a bunch of gangsters and escalation the path we are on. like a game of chicken two cars going at each other as fast as they can to see who will blink first. north korea if they blink they are done. huge incentive not to blink. then the idea of nuclear proliferation. this might be a clever move. china has a huge sense of leverage over north korea. china doesn't want japan and south korea to have nukes. if we introduce nukes to south korea or japan or threaten this, this might force china to actually put pressure on north korea. then we have the idea of sanctions. during the 1990s when you have sanctions north korean regime chose to let the population starve. he says having too many people makes socialism difficult. if the u.n. brings in food it will make the government superfluous. last very bad choice is military action. seoul is directly south of the border. and no one wants to see the imagery of missiles hitting sky crarps what that would look like and that what that woul

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that was kim jong-il the father in a parallel universe. i think junior is unhinged and is living to say things i can destroy the united states but i hope he doesn't really believe that. he's also reckless. by all reports, his half-brother was under chinese protection. they made a lot of progress in the last several years. a nuclear weapon you have to have three and they've been harvesting for plutonium and uranium for quite some time. they have to hold the material in critical mass until the moment. they are not getting very good yield that doesn't mean it's explode prematurely that they are working at it and exploded when they wants to. the vehicles are getting longer in range and i don't know if president trump is being told that it's one year to three years or five years. no president of the united states is going to let a north korean leader be able to reach the united states because the nuclear weapon. the only country that actually has influence with the north koreans is probably china but the chinese have always been more fearful th

meanwhile kim jong il and says he would never negotiate on the program and of course president trump trying to get the chinese involved in all of this. lori: president trump traveling to poland ahead of the g20 seven in germany. the president to reaffirm the commitment to poland. meanwhile, set to meet with vladimir putin this friday in germany. the white house says there's no specific agenda, but experts say election hacking and syria could come up when the two leaders meet. trade too well, back at home illinois without a bunch of other states and their shutdowns after failing to meet a july 1st deadline. lori: tracee carrascas joins us with more on this. reporter: a two-year stalemate about to come to an end without a little drama. republican governor was signed or vetoed a budget plan that gave final approval from the general assembly early tuesday for less than an hour later at the state senate overrode his veto is that the three bills in the package. the budget now heads back to the house for an override vote as early as today. the governor opposes the proposal which levies a ro

women, pyongyang seen here bowing and paying respects to two of the nation's former leaders, kim il-sung and kim jongrking the 64th celebration of the armistice that ended the korean war. as always, you can catch me online at kwe c welker nbc. more news with stephanie ruhle. we'll pass it back and forth all day. >> there's a lot of news to cover. good morning, i'm stephanie ruhle. my partnienepartner ali velshi assignment. let's get started. >> the president and i would like to tell everybody that we have a very, very good idea who the leakers are, who the senior leakers are in the white house. if reince wants to explain he's not a leaker, let him do that. i don't know if this is repairable or not, that will be up to the president. >> until we see the real bill, democrats will offer no further amendments. >> the only response they have on health care is more government, is single payer. >> jeff sessions is fired, there will be holy hell to pay. and any effort to go after mueller could be the beginning of the end of the trump presidency. this is not draining the swamp. what he's interjecting is turnin

mark: north korea kim jong-il and bragged about sending more to president trump. they conducted a joint missable is to drill off the eastern coast of the korean peninsula. secretary of state >> kept -- rex tillerson called the actions escalation of the threat to u.s. and its allies. the president is likely to receive friendly reception in poland. praise of russian president vladimir putin and his recent decision to pull the u.s. out of the paris climate accord. mr. trump arrives later today for a brief visit which will include a speech near the center of the 1944 warsaw uprising against the nazis. it avoided another crippling cyber attack after a police raid on an attack on a software company p or ukraine is still struggling to recover after hundreds of his nurses and government agencies were hit by a massive malware attack last month. minister says the cyber strike originated from servers at the same tax software company linked to the first hacking. presidentn authority visited french president emmanuel macron today to discuss the latest development in the middle

that is the administration says china and other nations are not doing enough to rain and kim jong-il's also making it clear that military action remains an option. of ourfull range capabilities to defend ourselves and our allies area one of our capabilities as lies with our considerably military sources. we will use them if we must but we prefer not to have to go in that direction. poland has agreed to by the patriot missile system. the deal would not have possible with that president donald trump who is visiting warsaw. the memorandum of understanding would see the first hatred missiles reduced i raytheon delivered by 2022. union and japan have overcome differences on farm and car exports, the accord -- ceciliay cecile mel stremme paves the way for a grimace between partners that make up a quarter of the world's economic output. and two others are expected to endorse the deal today. global news 24 hours a day, powered by more than 2600 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. you can find more stories on the bloomberg at top . we are seeing the close-out of markets in

we have an expert on north korea, the unauthorized autobiography of kim jong-il, michael, this has gonebeing a theoretical exercise in sought to achieving something more, i actually have people asking me what are we doing? is this going to happen, and what can we do to prevent it? >> this is a complicated question, they have been saying that they are going to wipe us off the match since the 50s and 60s, now they have weapons that cannot only reach us, but they can do monumental harm and they can do it very, very quickly, now if you have someone pointing a huge gun at your hea head, you have very few options, and especially when the person knows, in the case of kim jong-un, then he himself will probably personally be killed, so he will do whatever it takes to maintain his stranglehold on the country. >> dana: do you think -- is it a surprise that they are this far along, and the technology, did we miss something or they did they just advance more quickly than we thought? >> we tried to reason with them, and they lied, they have no problem lying all the time, when they were attacked by th

tweeted that this event would not happen now that it has tweeted this about north korean leader kim jong il saying does this guy have anything better to do with his life hard to believe that south korea and japan will put up with this much longer. the u.s. army and south korea's military carried out a joint military drill wednesday in response to pyongyang launching tactical missiles into the waters off the east coast of the korean peninsula i think what the u.s. and south korea are doing is basically flexing their muscle to show we're not afraid of north korea we also have big bad weapons but what they're doing is. fire with fire in a region that is a powder keg north korea hasn't gained any useful military capability here. should they ever launch a strike the consequences would be catastrophic for north korea so they don't expect them to gain any military advantage what they're looking for and what they've achieved now is status as a nuclear power and that status will convey political advantages clearly washington moscow and beijing will have to cooperate on this issue to bring the right

that was kim jong-il, the father. father. he lived in a parallel universe, but it was a bounded parallel universe. i think junior is unhinged, and i think he is living, when he says things like i can destroy united states, i think i hope he doesn't really believe that. he's also reckless picked anybody who will reach into malaysia to kill his half-brother with the gas about reports his half-brother was under chinese protection, so he's reckless. is probably a little unhinged, and they've made a lot of progress and the last several years on their nuclear programs. a nuclear weapon, usable nuclear weapon yet to three elements, you have to have fuel, and even harvesting plutonium and uranium for some time. then you had to have a bomb design. when people tell you that it's easy to make a nuclear weapon, it actually isn't easy to make a nuclear weapon. the bomb design has to all the material in critical mass until the moment when you want to hit and exploded. so when you read in the newspapers that the north koreans tepco that the

mark: north korea kim jong-il and bragged about sending more to president trump.t missable is to drill off the eastern coast of the korean peninsula. secretary of state >> kept -- rex tillerson called the actions escalation of the threat to u.s. and its allies. the president is likely to

where we had sanctions on him before, kim jong il chose to allow his population to starve rather than they can blame us. they don't care about their own population and human life. the reason kim jong un is in power over his younger brother who was recently is a assassina. because he wanted to denuclearize and kim jong un promised his dad he would keep nuclear power. brian: what would get their attention? japan or south korea doing something in response? they are in most direct threat. >> we have their attention and president trump is doing a great job of playing mind games women this. he is creating parading around with the chinese president and president moon and visited him from the white house in the earlier administration. they are publicly and explicitly saying we are talking about the north korea's threat. all of the enemies are getting together in public and discuss them and this is clearly getting inside kim jong un's head. brian: north korea just launched another missile. does this guy have anything better to do with his life. hard to believe south korea and japan will put up

under her of an assassination all of that north korean leader kim jong un will supplant i am no fan of kim jong il. vibe the problem is that these kind of methods you know on both sides as an example because north korea immediately said that the sentence you know the former president hu to basically a capital punishment but i think if this g. twenty summit meeting is really serious i think they should discuss one thing the growing militarization of of the world in general what people know what about the militarization of the to relieve some of the united states is there were twenty three thousand three rape your sorry i will just be clear to give you a list or south korea is very unkind be about this militarization they already have tensions with japan and with the united states because they will be the ones to pay the price for a possible conflict and in europe the european allies of nato have been in the last three years forty six billion dollars more for their defense because or as they say what russia did in crimea and also the ukrainian crisis has cost the european union i quote you waited mo

the launch was conducted on the leader kim jong-un, kilometers, 1.741 iles and puts the u.s. on could that kim jong un hit the mainland. issues of the most important issue facing the government on the gallup survey. they say the government is the important issue facing the u.s. seaford u.s. is up, philip on the independent line. caller: hi. july.felt happy 4th of thank you to my fellow americans out there. the biggestproblem, issue in the united states, the far is ortant issue by the economy, the economy, the economy. well, we want to make america great again, we have to ask ourselves, when was america that is when there were high-paying jobs for middle included retirement and health insurance and you say, how do you get that now? can do that by having theyezones in the midwest, have factories they call tombstones out there, and have a esearch and development area out in the rust belt and make it who buys nd anybody products from there and products panels, making is solar batterys with new technology, future, wind he and this is stuff we could xport around the world and any co

potentially a game changer, something that tim johnson -- un jong-il and -- kim jong and his generals can beat their chests about. we have seen the tweets from the president of the u.s., what also we getting? stephen: this is before the confirmation from pyongyang. trump saying does this guy have anything better to do, maybe a little bit tongue-in-cheek and may be too much levity given the magnitude of this. perhaps china will put heavy moves on north korea to end this nonsense once and for all. we have heard from the south , saying theyent will urge north korea to stop his provocation. also shinzo abe said the threat obviously korea, is even this morning's test of the icbm is as gliding. the -- on the be minds of leaders as they gather for the g-20. we do not know what they can still do to rein in north korea. guy: thank you for the update. stephen engle joining us from hong kong. this --ets have ignore ignored this. to's turn our attention another story. the reserve inc. of a story has left benchmark interest rates low, the at a record decision comes a week after the bank of england

and reminded me of when -- of how the north koreans, at the time it was kim jong-il who was the presidentken a sushi chef and a south korean actress hostage. and i just looked at him and said, i'm neither one of those, i think i'm okay >> maybe >> yeah. >> but anyway, a lot has happened since 2008. but i don't know if we're in any different position other than they now seem to have capabilities that are actually frightening. i guess people disagree. is the latest that they could hit -- they could hit the mainland at this point they have the capability to hit -- to have the missile linked to a nuclear device at this point >> well, they're not there yet so, in terms of whether they can hit the mainland, it looks like they're making strides whether they can miniaturize nuclear weapons, and put it on that missile and hit the united states, they're not there yet. but, the experts estimate it can happen within president trump's term, so this four-year term which is regrettable, of course. so i think what needs to be done is we need to go back to 1994, really when we had the agreed framework whi

tested an intercontinental ballistic missile the other day really ramped up the urgency to get kim jong il>> thank a lot, we appreciate it. abby: we will bring you life pictures of that meeting any moment. we will bring that to you as soon as we get them. you to react is former press officer morgan ortega, to date hillary campaign advisor, national report of real clear politics. good morning, thanks for being here. this meeting will happen any moment and everyone is wondering what will come out of this meeting, couldn't come at a more important time. he will bring up north korea, trade, when it comes to north korea i think it has become more complicated than donald trump realized initially. >> a lot of people in the community knew the relationship with china as it pertains to north korea could be difficult. the president is new to the stage. this is coming at a critical time, we are halfway through the president's first year in office and everything going on in north korea make this important. the president developing a relationship with the chinese president takes a tougher stance on nort

president trump took office back in january, kim jong-un has tested ballistic missiles has tested missiles on 12 occasions. he has conducted more ballistic miss ilethr and grandfather involved. while this test does certainly contribute to regional and global tensions the response to the tests are also ratcheting up tensions. the south korean president said he would be working with the u.s. to deploy a highly missile launch system developed by the united states. this is a system that china has loudly objected to. china was quick to launch its opinion to stop. >>> after some uncertainty the white house says president trump will stop the bill. >> russia is already retaliating say it will seize diplomatic properties like this one and demanding that the u.s. remove some of its diplomatic staff from the country. we're live in moscow and clair, this sounds like a delayed proportional response to the u.s. sanctions that were levied at the end of the obama administration. >> reporter: yeah, seven months later russia it seems has finally run out of patience and they reacted yesterday not waiting to hear what president trump's move would be on this bill. bu

north korean leader kimjohn lohan has —— kim jong north korean leader kimjohn lohan has —— kimjong iland has north korean leader kimjohn lohan has —— kimjong ilng to build on his arsenal and sees it as necessary to his survival. from both counts the sanctions have really done little, but when you look at the us range of options, none of them are great and this is the root that the trump administration is taking. thank you very much. —— that is the route that the trump administration is taking. volvo will become the first major car manufacturer to ensure that all models will be powered by either electric or hybrid engines from 2019. so—called alternative fuel vehicles are currently the fasting growing sector in the car market — although they still only make up a small proportion of the total. here's our transport correspondent richard westcott. the shapes have changed a bit over the years, but thank goodness when it comes to the brown allegro, but all these things have one thing in common, an internal combustion engine, burning petrol or diesel. -- all —— all these cars have one thing in common. we've relied on it for 100 years, but is that ab

the fire is caused by kim jong—il and the north koreans. relatively restrained. i don't like his tweeting. i don't like him saying that he wants to meet kim jong—un and that it would be an honour. i want him to have a coherent policy with his military advisers, our allies, bring it up at the 620. try something new. but i think diplomacy is the only option. there is no sound military option. i think kim jong—un wants to provoke the international community. we shouldn't let him get away with that. we should be united in our efforts to squeeze him and the key is china. and the key is china. china has not stepped up. i want to come to the role you've played the past. the 620 will be a very public thing. state to state diplomacy hasn't shown to be working. are there back channels that need to be activated quickly and strongly? yes. let's look at new back channels. private groups. perhaps the vatican. perhaps china can play a mediating role by saying to kimjong—un, you've got to sit down and talk to the south koreans to engage north korea on huma