question is, how is that going to happen when kim jong-unpromised to make this country, south korea in his word a sea of fire. president trump called kim jong-una mad man with nuclear weapons. do you abelieve that he is a madman? and why do you want to talk to a madman? >> translator: kim jong-unis not a rationale person. i would look to note that president trump once mentioned he is willing to talk with kim jong-un, over a burger, and a pin the he mentioned that it would be an honor to meet kim jong-un, i believe that president trump went further than i did. >> do you believe he likesburgers? >> most likely. maybe. >> most likely. so, i believe what kim jong-un, would want the most is to have a security guarantee for his regime. so there is a possibility that kim jong-un, continues to make the bluff with nuclear weapons programs but deep inside he is yearning or wanting dialogue. but in the end the only way to find out is to have a dialogue with north korea. >> let me ask you, it is the view of u.s. intelligence, that north korea will likely test an icbm this year, would you aoppose a preemptive strike by the united states to take that out be

>> thae yong-ho: kim jong-un's capability to wreak harm, not only to america but also to south korea >> whitaker: during his five years in power, kim jong-un has expanded north korea's nuclear arsenal, despite international sanctions that have brought his country's economy to its knees. electricity is scarce. from space, north korea is a black hole. that's it, wedged between the shining lights of south korea, and china to the north. thae said he was living a comfortable life here at the north korean embassy in london before he fled with his wife and two grown sons. his job in london was to spread north korean propaganda, and report back on his colleagues. you all live together under one roof? >> thae yong-ho: yes. >> whitaker: so you could keep an eye on each other? >> thae yong-ho: keep an eye on each other, control each other, and even spy on each other. >> whitaker: but thae said he lost all faith in the regime when kim jong-un killed his own uncle in 2013, and executed dozens of perceived enemies, including diplomats. i have seen tape of you-- >> thae yong-ho: yes. >> whitaker: --

when kim jong un came to power, things changed dramatically. they're now averaging about 15 to 13 tests per year. this is indicative of missile development programs. in fact, north korea is pursuing the development of more than one system. the they lose track of them because they seem to introduce something new each day. i want to talk a little bit about their kpap blilts, where they are and then project some timelines and maybe at the end offer some not policy prescriptions but some ideas and limitations we have in trying to halt philadelphia development. the scud missiles were launched during the kim il sung jet stream. there was virtually no flight testing. indicative of having received the technology from a foreign source, in this case it was very likely russia and to be more specific, the mackay design bureau and elements ie 2567d to mackayev. what we've seen north korea do is leverage that existing scud technology. you'll recall that last year, they tested what is called the scud er for extended range. this is a scud that was modified. th

kim jong un is going to do what he wants to do.ndeems bent on a compass -- on accomplishing his goals. host: we are talking with mark bowden of the atlantic about his piece, how to deal with north korea, in the next issue of the atlantic. he is also the author of several oaks, including black hawk down, the bases of the film, as well as guests of the ayatollah and the best game ever. bill is calling from illinois. caller: good morning. a couple of comments before my question. sanctions have sometimes produced better results. before world war ii, i think we had imposed a lot of sanctions against japan regarding oil. to thehave contributed move at pearl harbor. the second thing is, why would one ever think that some regime that has been in power for 30 years whose goal is to stay in power whatever voluntary relinquished their nuclear weapons. my question is strategic patience has worked pretty well for the last 20 years. why the big brush to do something -- why the big rush to do something? why would north korea do something knowing

negotiating with kim jong-un goes like this. u do everything i say and i won't feed you to a boa constrictor, that is a deal, mom? "where's waldo" they think is for kim jong-un's daughter, who i think is 5 years old. they love american books in north korea. they adapt them to suit the north korean lifestyle. there's "good night un." "oh the places you'll never go." "the very hungry caterpillar and millions of other people." the caterpillar's hungry because there's no food. it really is amazing dennis rodman and kim jong-un are friends. especially considering kim jong-un doesn't speak english and dennis rodman doesn't speak english. i don't know what they're saying to each other. i don't know if trump has read "where's waldo" but i have to say i feel like he has. i've noticed when he gives a speech, he always seems to be reading it aloud. >> where's leo, is leo around here? where is he? he's got to be here. where is he? where is franklin? he's around. where is robert? where's jim? where are they? where is general flynn? where are

president trump has called kim jong-un a madman with nuclear weapons. and why do you want to talk to a madman? >> translator: kim jong-un is not a rational person, but i >> would like to also note that resident trump once even mentioned he is willing to talk with kim jong-un over a burger, p even mene has another point he oentioned that it would be an honor to be able to meet kim r andun. oo i believe president trump went much further than i did. >> do you believe that kim jong-un likes burgers? >> translator: most likely, r: most >> most likely. >> translator: so, i believe what kim jong-un would want the most is to have a security guarantee for his regime. so there is a possibility that im jong-un continues to make ith bluff with his nuclear learons programs, but deep weapons p is actually yearning idewanting dialogue. but in the end, the only way to ndnd out is to have a dialogue with north korea. >> let me ask you, it is the view of u.s. intelligence that hat h korea will likely test an icbm this year. youd you oppose a preemptive trike by the united

we've seen this new pattern of missile testing under the regime of kim jong-un. his grandfather, under his reign from 1984 to 1994, i know he began before 1984, but they started missing testing in 1984, he conducted a total of, i think it was 15 tests. about 1 1/2 missile tests per year. kim jong-il under his reign, there were 16 or so tests. this includes a few satellite launch attempts. but they came in clusters of 1998 you saw the one and then in 2006, ii and a number of other missiles were fired in a single day and then in 2009 you saw a cluster of testing. this is inconsistent with testing to develop nuclear systems. even though they were attempting to develop the satellite launch as it turns out to be. it seemed that rational for testing was to train troops, you know, to create operational readiness and for political purposes. especially the july 2006 testing. under kim yojong-un, we've seen the ramp up of testing. i think he's now done 78 missile launches. there may have been more that failed. i don't know. i think the numbers are right around there. that'

one, we've seen this new pattern of missile testing under the regime of kim jong-un. his grandfather, kim il-sung, under his reign for making 84 84-1994, i know he began before 1984, but they started missile testing in 1984. he conducted a total of i think it was 15 test, want and have missile tests per year kim jong-il, under his reign there were 16 or so tests, this includes a few satellite launch attempts but they came in clusters. in 1998, and then in 2006 along with a number of other missiles fired in a single day and then again in 2009 you saw a cluster of testing. in both instances this would be inconsistent with testing to develop new systems even though i'm to develop the satellite launch as it turned out to be. but it seems the rational for testing was to train troops come to great operational readiness and for political purposes. especially the july 2006 testing. under kim jong-un we've seen this wrap up of testing, i think he has now done, at last count 78 missile launches. there may have been more that failed, i don't know what i think the number is right

he has met kim jong-un. and we know he was on "the celebrity apprentice," president trump's former reality show, two different occasions. >> that's right, wow. >> reporter: so, he knows the president. actually endorsed him in 2015. so, in terms of how this is going to play out diplomatically, we just don't know. we'll find out more. he has landed in pyongyang. >> sean spicer, get ready to answer questions about dennis rodman. matt, thank you. >> and the t-shirt product placement for the marijuana crypto currency is a little -- >> banking for the marijuana industry, they say. >> seems like he's sort of playing us somehow. >> they win. >>> tech stocks raising the market to record highs. have they lost steam? we'll talk a little bit about this tech slump that we've seen lately. you won't see these folks they have businesses to run. they have passions to pursue. how do they avoid trips to the post office? stamps.com mail letters, ship packages, all the services of the post office right on your computer. get a 4

is fed up with the north korea regime, but can kim jong-un working to develop a nuclear weapon that can hit the united states, what will the trump administration do to stop it? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in the situation room. >>> we're following breaking news. a shooting rampage at a major new york city hospital. police say a gunman who injured multiple people at bronx lebanon hospital has killed himself and that the body of a woman was found nearby. sources tell cnn the shooter was a doctor and former hospital employee. we're also following new developments of president trump's very public feud with msnbc host joe scarborough and mik ark mika brezinski. they claim the president threatened them unless they apologize to mr. trump. mr. trump threw a wrench into the process with a tweet that said congress repeal obamacare now without a replacement which he said could come later. >>> the president voicing his frustration with north korea. he said, patience is over with the kim jong-un regime which is aggressively pursuing a nuclear weapon capable of striking the united states. we're covering

mentioned he is willing to talk to kim jong un over a burger and that it would be an honor to meet kiment much further than i did. >> do you believe that he likes burgers? >> translator: most likely. maybe. so i believe what kim jong un would want the most is to have a security guarantee for his regime. so there is a possibility that kim jong un continues to make the bluff with his nuclear weapons programs but deep inside he is yearning or wanting dialog. but in the end the only way to find out is to have a dialog with north korea. >> let me ask you, it is the view of u.s. intelligence that north korea will likely test an icbm this year. would you oppose a pre-emptive strike by the united states to take that out before the test? >> translator: i believe when it comes to north korea's nuclear missile threats it is the republic of korea that is more dire. for the united states, the north korean threat is a future threat on the horizon, but for us, this is a matter of life and death when it comes to pre-emptive strikes that you mentioned this is something we may -- we can discuss at a lat

it is the latest of provocations from kim jong-un's regime and adds to the urgency of efforts to cut h flow. brian todd has more on this developing story for us. brian, what is the latest you're learning? >> reporter: a u.s. intelligence official told me they are closely monitoring the situation on the korean peninsula. while the u.s. officials meet their chinese counterparts here in washington tonight, kim jong-un seems to be thumbing his nose at both nations and ramping up his threats. the mysterious underground mountain site where kim jong-un tests his nuclear bombs, two u.s. officials tell cnn spy satellites have detected new activity there for the first time in several weeks. the officials say there appear to be modifications around a key tunnel entrance to an underground test area. >> it would look like they're preparing for another nuclear test. the tempo has increased the last couple of years. >> reporter: u.s. officials say military options for north korea have been updated and will be presented to president trump if kim's regime conducts another nuclear test, but it is not c

both leaders are unpredictable. >> right. >> reporter: both trump and kim jong-un. >> right. >> reporterirected secretary of state rex tillerson to take all appropriate measures to bring otto home. as winter turned to spring, kim jong-un was making his own headlines, with more missile testing and accusations he killed his own half brother. >> kim jong-un is more frightening. he seems to be more brutal. he seems to be more reckless. he has anger management issues. >> he's acting very, very badly. i will tell you, he's acting very badly. >> reporter: the new administration views its predecessors north korea poll sill as something else to repeal and replace. >> the policy of strategic patience has ended. >> reporter: by april, the warmbier family has also changed it's approach and broken its silence. john kerry was secretary of state at the time. did h help you in any way? >> no. absolutely not. >> did anyone in the state department help you in any way? >> no. >> this sense of frustration and anger, i've heard it before, and i understand it. >> reporter: this past april, we were in north ko

under kim jong-un, we've seen this ramp-up of testing. he's now done at last count 78 missile launches. there may have been more that failed, i don't know but i think the number is right around there. at 13 or 15 tests per year. that's consistent with a missile development program. compare that to say what iran is doing. ran on average test read five missiles a year, they make minor modifications and test them out. they use them in wargames. >> that is far less and it's not enough testing to develop a new capability in the short period of time and when i say a short period i'm talking 3 to 5 years. >> so it's clear to me and what we've seen is a number of new systems emerge and i'll talk about them in a moment but what is clear is north korea is trying to create new capabilities and they're going about it in a reasonably technically valid way. >> the second point i want to make is that we've seen north korea move bond the legacy skype technology. all the missiles up until kim jong-un came to power were basically powered by either the star

his relationship with kim jong-un was amazing to see. >> well, you know, a lot of people jusly criticizedman for actually trying to legitimize kim jong-un. he did say a number of things about how good kim is. rodman, really is so bizarre himself that, you know, i'm not so sure that he actually helped kim because when you have someone like rodman saying the things about kim, you have to believe the opposite. >> all right. in terms of bizarre, alec mentioned it earlier, you have covered north korea for a long time and there's been a lot of reaction and some comparison to comments that meshs of president trump's cabinet made yesterday at the white house praising president trump comparing that interaction to that we would see in north korea. take a look. >> on behalf of the entire senior staff around you, mr. president, we thank you for the opportunity and the blessing that you've given us to serve your agenda. >> mr. president, thank you for the honor to serve the country. >> i can't thank you enough for the privilege you've given me and the leadership you've shown. >> thank you for the oppo

you play to a nut job like kim jong-un and you make him feel important. >> eric: bringing back these hostages isn't going to solve the problem of kim jong-un who tells us he's going to be able to release the western coast of the united states with a bomb. >> curtis: if you were in seoul korea, it would be great if we launched missiles into north korea. the first people who get hit are in seoul korea and he's going to turn them into speed bumps. >> eric: by no means -- i'm not trying to insinuate we blow the north koreans to smithereens. i am saying we take the teeth, set their nuclear program back ten or 20 years by whatever means necessary. >> douglas: you've got to do that at some point. there's one other thing. they may be a crazy regime, the most crazy but at some level kim jong-un wants to survive. he knows that they are riding a tiger in the moment they get off, they get eaten. >> eboni: i think you said it best. >> eric: when we come back, an explosion rocked the heart of brussels, belgium, setting europe on europe on edge yet again. we have the latest. will you be ready when t

is not a rational person, but president trump even mentioned that he is willing to talk with kim jong-unas another point he mentioned, that it would be an honor to meet kim jong-un, so i believe president trump went much further than i did. paul: prime minister theresa may steps into a new political reality on wednesday with the heavily rewritten legislative program big on brexit and light on controversy. the stripped-down queen's speech will be without most of the usual pageantry as it starts the beginning of a two-year parliamentary a sessio session. global news 24 hours a day powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. this is bloomberg. rishaad: the black stuff tumbled into a bear market over concerns of a supply glut. i want to talk about this bear market. #269 shows says what has been going on with the oil price. $54 in february, and we have gone down just to below $44. -- move represents a >> it's almost like 2016 again. supply is the issue here. rishaad: this is the rig count, the blue line, giving you an idea of supply and essence. >> it is han

dealing with the north is tricky. >> kim jong-un is not a rational person. ident trump mentioned he is even willing to talk to kim jong-un over a burger and said it would be an honor to meet him. i believe president trump much further than i do. global news 24 hours a day, powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries. i am nina melendez. this is bloomberg. yvonne: back to our top story, msci's decision to add china to its benchmark indices. adam haigh joining us live from sydney. news, the etf move on offshore yen just a little bit. what is the likely impact when the market opens today? adam: i think overwhelmingly, the senses of relief. we have been waiting for this for some time. there are been many years when it keeps getting kicked back. now we are finally here and investors can make the decisions and analysis they need to do, over the next two years allocate more of their capital to domestic chinese stocks. that is where we are now. in the immediate short-term, there is perhaps space for relief. we did see it on the futur

um not see the result of that, but kim jong-un will. >> reporter: experts a hacking the internal callsmails and putting them out in public is a possible retaliatory move. the u.s. and the u.n. have economic sanctions already in place against north korea. targeting luxury and imports and exports which help kim's military. those could be expanded. but what could hurt north korea more analysts believe is if the u.s. applies so-called secondary sanctions against kim's chief ally, china. >> it's pretty well known there are an extensive set of chinese entities that help north korea evade those arms sanctions by the united nations. we've had a limited number of cases where we've gone after chinese firms for those reasons. we could greatly expand that number. >> reporter: tonight president trump signalling he believes china's efforts with kim jong-un have fallen short tweet, quote, while i greatly appreciate the efforts of president xi and china to help with north korea, it has not worked out. at least i know china tried. the administration says it's looking at a possible ban on american touri

we have to hope that as unstable as kim jong-un is, that he's not suicidal, and i do not believe he wants to commit suicide. so he has to understand that any attack on the part of his regime against us or our allies would be met with a devastating response. to that end, we are building up our military again. we just finished the markup of the national defense authorization act this week in the senate. we marked a $640 billion number, higher than in the past. higher than the house was able to, but they marked to $621 billion. so suffice it to say the house and the senate are building up our military. the president's called for over 350 ships in our naval fleet up from 276, where we are now,

kim jong-un is not.eep his military insecurity services happening, as his father did, he could let millions of north koreans starve to death. this is as close to an intractable problem i've ever seen in the world stage. liz: i completely understand president trump saying we have a lot of options, and we're going forward, and we've got to smack down north koreans. but the south korean piece of this puzzle seems to be a bit more problematic to find its fit. i was just looking. 35 miles. that is how close the major city of seoul in south korea is to the dmz or the demilitarized zone of north korea. they have to be really careful because that's within nuclear warhead hitting targets; right? >> it is. it's even within the range of some conventional. and it's a pretty short drive from the border to seoul. seoul is not only a capital politically, it's a financial capital, it's really -- it is south korea to a great degree. and that's the single block to military operations because if we are compelled to do ever

missiles, that it could be seen as provocative and they're worried about their northern neighbor, kim jong-un at this moment in time. the pentagon would like to have six missiles as part of that thad battery. they only made two of them operational. they were hoping to get the other four in place in order to have a solid system to defend seoul as well as the u.s. troops there. we had just heard in the last week from the assistant secretary of defense for asian affairs, david helsey, he was on the trip with defense secretary

[ light laughter ] even kim jong-un is like, dude, have some self respect, you gotta -- [ applause ] now you may remember that in his testimony last week comey said trump had tried to get him to end his investigation of former national security advisor, michael flynn. telling comey in a private oval office meeting, "i hope you can let this go." which, of course, is usually what world leaders say to trump when he's shaking their hand. [ light laughter ] i hope can you let this go. i have to use this to eat and drive. [ light laughter ] wrap it up! now, this of course has raised the question of whether the president committed obstruction of justice. trump in return, has accused comey of leaking the conversations to the press despite the fact that comey was a private citizen at the time, and the conversation was not classified. at a press conference on friday with the president of romania, trump continued to defend himself. although, he seemed to wanna keep his comments brief. >> no collusion, no obstruction. he's a leaker. >> seth: oh, no. [ laughter and applause ] oh, no.

negotiating with kim jong-un goes like this. u do everything i say and i won't feed you to a boa constrictor, that is a deal, mom? "where's waldo" they think is for kim jong-un's daughter, who i think is 5 years old. they love american books in north korea. they adapt them to suit the north korean lifestyle. there's "good night un." "oh the places you'll never go." "the very hungry caterpillar and millions of other people." the caterpillar's hungry because there's no food. it really is amazing dennis rodman and kim jong-un are friends. especially considering kim jong-un doesn't speak english and dennis rodman doesn't speak english. i don't know what they're saying to each other. i don't know if trump has read "where's waldo" but i have to say i feel like he has. i've noticed when he gives a speech, he always seems to be reading it aloud. >> where's leo, is leo around here? where is he? he's got to be here. where is he? where is franklin? he's around. where is robert? where's jim? where are they? where is general flynn? where are

maybe kim jong-un wanted warmbier to suffer as a lesson to the united states. we don't know his thinking on this. that is a real possibility. we saw the assassination of kim jong-un's half brother, five of his senior subordinates. there's something wrong in this regime and otto warmbier may be another symptom of that. >> shepard: restrictions, travel restrictions in order? >> yes. for a couple reasons. first of all, we don't want other americans to become hostages. the regime earns 100% of the dollars from tourism. your waitresses or tour guide, they get north korean wong, which are worthless. every time you see a missile arcing into the sky, it's tourist dollars at work. >> weekend travel to every country on the face of the earth except for cuba. it's unusual for the united states to restrict the movement of its own citizens. it's more normal to put out warnings about what you're about to get into. >> which is north korea's case. there's no travel ban. i look at this as an issue of trying to restrict the flow of funds to the regime. they're making fast pace on

stuart: what is kim jong un? >> he's marshal. stuart: all right. marshal kim jong un. >> yes.re. >> yes. stuart: i'm sure he receives daily briefings on how things stand. he must be aware of president trump's difficulties. is he trying to exploit them? >> i think what he's more aware of is, look, president trump's doing a tour of all his enemies, meeting with the japanese prime minister abe, and all of them are saying we're discussing the north korean problem. so if there was someone i hated and they're meeting with every single one of my enemies, that's going to make me paranoid and get into my head. i think president trump, he's very good at playing mind games, and he's really gotten into kim jong un's head which is a great way to -- stuart: wait, wait, repeat that. you think our president has gotten inside the head and has gotten to marshal kim jong un. >> oh, there's no question. first of all, he should be paranoid because our force is so much stronger than theirs, but if there's a bunch of people that you hated and someone is meeting with them individually and parading th

why would kim jong-un ever agree to freeze his nuclear weapons program? what are you going to give him? >> ( translated ): kim jong-un currently has a blind faith that his nuclear and missile programs will protect him and his regime, so we must show and teach north korea that this belief is incorrect. if north korea gives up its nuclear program and missile programs and wants to start a dialogue, then i believe we can send a message that we will not threaten kim jong-un's regime, and we can even provide assistance to them. and that is why i fully agree with president trump that we need stronger sanctions and pressure on north korea to the level that we have never reached before, maximum pressure. >> mason: norah o'donnell will have more from south korea this week on "cbs this morning." coming up next on the cbs evening news, just-released video shows a minnesota officer's deadly encounter with a driver. jumped into city life as a kid... ...raised two rough and tumble boys... ...and kept my town moving. but i couldn't bear my diabetic nerve pain any longer.

hall of famer dennis rodman says the president should follow his example and go meet with kim jong-un. rodney did not see the dictator on this trip but in the past they rode horses and sang ca karioke. >>> breaking news, the white house says the president has no intention of firing special counsel robert mueller even though the president is once again criticizing mueller, calling his friendship with the fired fbi director james comey bothersome. saying his staffers are hillary clinton supporters and suggesting his future is up in the air. the day after finally admitting he has no tapes of his talks with fired fbi director james comey, president trump now says his whole six-week deception was an effort to influence comey to tell the truth. the white house denies that the president sought to intimidate comey. there are stunning new details about russia's effort to tilt the u.s. election. they gave dreblgt evidence that vladimir putin personally ordered the campaign to influence the vote in favor of trump. the post was inside the infrastructure and left office before it could be implemen

infractions as minor as not showing the proper affection for the dear leader kim jong-un can earn youulag of secret prison camps known as kwanliso. >> these camps are places of unimaginable suffering. they're the very machinery of a a widespread and systematic campaign of enslavement and of executions. >> reporter: scott edwards of amnesty international says the facilities are so secretive, the only way to see what they look like is from space, through satellite imagery. what's this we're looking at here? >> so, this is one of these political prison camps that amnesty has recently imaged. this area is about the size of all of new york city. the north, kwanliso 16. it's about three times the size of d.c. >> reporter: edwards says within these gargantuan facilities -- whole industries are devoted to slave labor. >> the different areas are different sorts of commercial or agricultural or mining activity. what goes on in the camps that isn't visible from space is torture, is the intentional starving of populations. it's infanticide. it's rape. it's mutilation. >> reporter: how do you know

for months the white house has been lobbying china to exert more influence over the kim jong-un regime. >> last night in iowa, president trump praised china's president but also sent a message that he expects more from beijing. >> we've had a very good relationship with china in all fairness. and i do like president xi. i wish we would have more help on north korea from china. that doesn't seem to be working out, but i do like the president a lot. >> the meeting with top chinese officials comes days after the death of otto warmbier. the american college student spent 17 months hard -- before he was sent -- hard labor before he was sent home in a coma. we have more on the high-level meetings and where the two countries go from here. good morning. it's a question of what the chinese are willing to do, what they're willing to do to push the north koreans. do you get any sense of where they'll go here? >> reporter: well, this is a question that successive administrations have been asking starting with the clinton administration going on down the line to the trump administration. they all w

kim jong un and his regime should be held responsible for the heinous murder of an american, a united states citizen. >> that tweet is interesting to me. i think we're going to see the beginning of the gas lighting of north korea. he should tweet tomorrow "we are changing the executive order against assassination." and then with a little happy face emoticon, and a hashtag, say nothing more. it's refreshing to be the unpredictable force in this equation as an american. for so long we were the ones that were solving for x. trying to figure out the crazy people. now it's their turn to figure out what we are going to do next. i think we should target the countries that are doing business with north korea, and make sure they are not making any money and possibly losing money. just to mess with on all counts. do whatever we can to make their lives hell -- take it back to the neighborhood metaphor. if there's a creep in your neighborhood, tell your kids to stay away. that's what you do. and we are the parent here, week to tell these other countries to stay away from him. or else. >> there ha

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limited our intelligence is. happening in north korea, how limited our intelligence ism shows that kim jong unhe security forces did not want to tell kim jong un of the problem. that might have happened. or maybe he knew and they felt the best thing to do was hoped that he would come out of that, and things would be ok. but i think the fa ct things would be ok. but i think the fact that they failed to disclose, they failed to give proper medical treatment, that possibly he was tortured right left his trial, that he is being in a coma for a year is a major violation under the geneva convention of the treatment of prisoners and should be some for that, they should pay for that. the issueis that, they should pay for that. the issue is how you make them pay. obviously it is such a closed and repressive regime. i know he's spent a lot of time talking to the family and we watched the father speaking brave and last week. he was critical of the obama administration for not publicising that otto was there and the kind of conditions he was being kept in. there are now three americans still there and six

world's worst regime so you could take the pope or whatever and put him in the same position as kim jong un and you get behave i don't know his mother and sister go a lot of that but how secure is his position i mean is he doing these things because he's being controlled by generals and you know north korean coming in sports is around him that's a great debate among korea watchers most people think that he actually consolidated control quickly after he took over from the death of his father in december two thousand and eleven was he learning at his father's knee how to do that yes he was . also in the regime founder took more than two decades to teach kim jong il his son how to rule the regime because a very difficult thing to do now kim jong il to just about play here because the regime you know is not a monolith it's a composite of various elements like the security services korean people's army. and the guard even more complicated and then you have kim family members who are also part of the regime it's a balancing effort on the part of a north korean leader kim jong un has not only trie

it probably means it will discourage a lot of behavior from someone equally unpredictable, kim jong-un although in this case, the situation with otto is something both parties, bipartisan issue, there needs to be a response, what will it be. >> the president is putting out this response just days before meeting with officials in washington. you read the tweet and wonder, is he saying the u.s. is going at it alone. gosh at least china tried doesn't it weaken trump's hand when it comes to talking with the chinese and trying to take a hard line. >> i've been struck how often new presidents come in and say they are going to bend china to our will by being tougher more resolute, smarter, bill clinton did it, george w. bush did it, it's common then you find there's so many irons in the fire at once it's impossible to let any one issue dominate the relationship with the exclusion of all others. china saying we haven't got the results we want out of north korea obviously with this horrible incident but you don't blame you it's not your fault. it points to him wanting a relationship with china

i believe he is the only person in the world who knows both kim jong-un and president trump. t, in 2013, trump commended dennis rodman for the relationship he has with kim jong- jong-un, saying he is better than our diplomats. put into context the missile test going on now. just how tense the times are. dennis rodman, for example, the sponsor of his trip there, what is it, a virtual marijuana bank? >> dennis rodman sought various sponsorships to do these forays. i believe he's gone to the newspapnews organization in the past. the overall context is tensions are high. we heard from the defense secretary mattis last night s saying north korea is the top threat. we had four separate missile tests from the north koreans. with eh we had a missile interceptor test on the side of the u.s., where they hit a bullet with a bullet. there was a successful ground-based interceptor shot from california. they intercepted a mock missile coming in from the marshall islands. so the rhetoric is high. the military alerts are on high. within last 48 hours, the south koreans discovered a north kore

rodman is one of the only americans who have ever met with kim jong-un face-to-face.as visited that country at least four times, the last visit coming in 2014 when he and other former nba players took part in an exhibition basketball game, which was a birthday gift for kim. wolf, a u.s. official telling cnn tonight the state department was aware of rodman's plans to travel to north korea but stress he is not going in any official capacity with the u.s. government. >> interesting that we spotted him. we have that video of him in beijing at the international airport. you want to go to pyongyang, you have to fly to beijing first, then get a visa in beijing, then fly into north korea, payongyan. a lot of us remember the negative publicity for the last visit. >> that's right, he was heavily criticized for not bringing up the case of american kenneth bae, who spent more than two years in north korean custody. rodman had an expletive laden outburst during the trip. he did say after his return he was sorry for what was going on and meant the trip to be an instance of, quote,

>> the problem tonight the uncertainty about kim jong-un's next nuclear moves. jong-un could order a sixth underground nuclear test that could lead to president trump considering military action. u.s. spy satellites spotted personnel and vehicles at one of the tunnel entrances at this test site. u.s. officials familiar with the classified assessment of kim's personality profile say he is so unpredictable there is no way to tell what he might do next. >> we call on the dprk to halt its nuclear weapons program and its ballistic missiles test. >> we have the responsibility to deter any provocation but kim jong-un in the meantime and to provide the president with a list of options in the event that hostilities occur. and that's exactly what we're doing. >> but the pentagon also specifically updated military options to respond to a new collie y -- nuclear test. it could indicate china's pressure on kim isn't working. therefore, military options would be presented to the president. in a recent tweet by president trump, while i greatly appreciate the efforts of preside

you can have dennis rodman go there and praise kim jong-un as he's done on his previous trips, but we'veer that that's just dennis rodman being dennis rodman. this is, you know, kim jong-un is one of the worst disparates in the history of the world. there's not much more you can say about it than that. >> we've heard from will ripley, from his contacts and from sources, from the state department. they say this is a strange coincidence that dennis rodman is in the country on the same day that otto warmbier is released. do you think there is a connection? do you think this is a strange coincidence? >> no, this is not a coincidence. i think what the north koreans are trying to do, basically, is start talks with the united states. i don't know if the chinese had been leaning on them to do that, and that's also a real possibility, but one way or another, the north koreans want to talk. and so, what they've done is they decided to release one of the people that we want, otto warmbier, and at the same time, they thought that they could start a back-channel to president trump with one of his fri

he brought kim jong-un a copy of "art of the deal," the president's book there. inmates in prison. they did not leave with him from pyongyang. are dennis rodman's visits helpful? >> i may surprise you, but i think the answer is yes. when you're dealing with somebody like jim jong-un, whoever he relates to, that's the person who should be helpful. he's a big basketball fan. he likes the exotic. dennis rodman, for all the things that he may not be as a diplomat basically has a relationship with him. so i say good for dennis and good for the administration trying to use him. i think getting one guy out who has been in a coma for 19 months, what kind of regime could do that? the answer is an evil regime. this is an evil regime. maybe next time he can get one more out. they should all be out, but we should remember, this is just a small microcosm of a country that now has 20 to 25 nuclear bombs. there are much worse things than capturing americans and keeping them in prison that this kim jong-un could do. >> and i should say that the defense secretary, james mattis, h

tonight we hear from former nba star dennis rodman on why he calls north korean dictator kim jong unis friend. rodman last visited the closed-off country the same day american otto warmbier, held by the brutal regime for 17 months, was released to his family. rodman's team says that was no coincidence. tonight we explore the seemingly bizarre relationship between the despot and the basketball star. and learn more about otto, who died with severe brain damage just days after returning to the u.s. here's abc's bob woodruff. >> as we prepare to leave wyoming hospital, it feels like saying good-bye to a close friend. >> reporter: they're the prophetic words of the late otto warmbier, saying a final good-bye to his graduating class. >> but also a different kind of good-bye, a farewell to something larger than just a friend. >> reporter: just four years later at that same high school it would be his family and friends who would bid him farewell. >> he was just like full of eternal optimism and hope. >> i think he is a gift to all of us. he was one of a kind. he inspired us all. >> reporter