to make sure we had a program that was going to be as green as possible and the puc staff has, kim malcolm and have worked to respond to these issues that have been raised. now it seems the concerns raised by the commissioners on the public utilities commission were rational that were pretty flimsy about really to cover up their over all opposition to the program going forward. that's the perception issue but given the track record and given the answers provided for even though they were real answers and the program that has been altered and tweaked to make affordability, those didn't measure up to any recognition that they were worthy of supporting shows there wasn't an effort to make this program work but to object -- object 50s skate -- this program. it's a political issue we have of moving this program forward and it's unfortunate that politics get exposed. our inability to move forward on the clean power sf program and trying to exposed -politics i issued a letter of inquiry to the public utilities commission to ask why they did not provide the not to exceed rates and i will ask the p

kim malcolm at the sf puc. nancy miller and jason. >> thank you. >> thank you, any other member of the public would like to comment? we'll close public comment. >> one thing about lafco staff, when talking about the pg & e tariff, one thing to keep in mind, it not a green litd program yet. it's on hold. no one should assume that that program will ever see the light of day because there are a lot of complaints that sf puc submitted a letter with a bunch of questions that need to be addressed. there is direct access providers and others providing other questions and comment. there is still a lot of issues to be addressed. even though it's a potential product, it's something not occurring yet. it's on hold depending on what happens with the state legislation. >> thank you. colleagues. we can continue this item. >> if i could. this is, this could be an action item as well. if you have direction for us, i think this would be a good time to give it to us in terms of either -- >> you mentioned a letter from lafco expr

since director kim malcolm came on board. before that, it was a struggle with the sfpuc power enterprise to get the buildout on the table. since ms. malcolm showed up, we've got the rates down. they're going to be competitive with pg&e, without which competitive rates, there would be no buildout because there would be no customers. since ms. malcolm came on board, much more of the local power analysis that you saw in a presentation a couple months ago from local power that shows how we can get thousands of jobs within the next ten years building hundreds of local renewables in efficiency, much more of that vision although not all of it has struggled to materialize under ms. malcolm so she deserves a lot of credit. so, the main thing i wanted to do is clear up a major misconception that i'm seeing this evening that will help you understand what we're talking about with renewable energy credits, with the shell contract, and how we're going to get to the buildout, the green new deal and union labor. and you may know that i'm sure

witnesses that you prefer and then we'll have a response from supervisor -- commissioner caen. >> kim malcolm, director of cleanpowersf, i was at the commission on the environment last week for about three and a half hours, we had a long discussion, the commissioners had a lot of questions. i was asked to go there to provide an overview and an update on the program and on the rate setting process, and i did give them a presentation that was a whole lot like the one you have before you today. i was not asked to provide a lot of detail about a build-out plan although there was some discussion about it. >> great, thank you very much. >> alright, i just want to announce that if people are outside and need a place to sit, we've made accommodations for room 416 until 5:00 p.m. because we have to exit this hearing room no later than 5:00 because the pedestrian safety commission will be meeting in this room, so we don't want to be -- >> wow, what a great escape. >> it's not an escape, it's a requirement under the law. room 416. commissioner caen, you wanted to make a comment. >> my name is anglo caen

renewable and efficiency, thousands of jobs that go with that, but since -- i have to give kudos to kim malcolm, we are down to a possible rate which is competitive do pg&e brown power rates, the opt-out will be 20% or less because we had the chance to set the right rates today, that means we'll be able to get the build-out underwear way, it is time to move this forward, we are no longer saying no, we are saying yes, and to those folks of all the labor union that is are in the room, i guarantee you the activists will fight tooth and nail to make sure that project labor agreement ares used to make this thing rock solid on union hiring. .sing thank you, mr. brooks. [inaudible]. welcome. >> good afternoon, commissioners, if i understand correctly, the only bidder for the contract when that contract was let go was with shell and it is a transition contract, a small p-e-r-c-e-n-t-a-g-e time you as an organization could be full speed ahead with local jobs, local people, even developing rec that could be purchased by other groups, one week ago today i walked into my classroom, my first course is envir

speakers kim malcolm, clean power s.f. san francisco public utilities commission. this is a discussion and possible action item. >> and really quickly, colleagues, thank you. malcolm for being here. we have a new commissioner, relatively new commissioner and we've been working on this program, staying on top of it, becoming aware and there was interest from a number of us on the commission to hear the status of the program, to have a check-in, and to find out more of what's the status and where things are at going into what we know is a decision that's before the san francisco public utilities commission next tuesday. so, thank you very much for being with us tonight. >> thank you for having me. i'm pleased to be here. i was able to brief your policy committee i believe in may at hauled's invitation. actually a number of things have happened since may. ~ commissioner wald i want to give you a history on a program, which is quite long for a program that hasn't been launched yet. and tell you about the kinds of policy issues we've been trying to address recently and