to the program, alfred zaias, former secretary of the un human rights council out of geneva, and kim sharif, activist and lawyer out of london. well, thank you both for being with me. i'd like to start this off in geneva with alfred, your perspective, how significant is this hearing on the israeli occupation? personally, i believe that every hearing before the international court of justice creates precedence, and it is important to show that there is opposition. worldwide opposition to the war that israel is waging on the palestinians and in the manner in which this war is being waged, which is certainly genocidal. now for your listeners and viewers, you should understand that there are several proceedings in progress. the hearings of today that will go on, all week and next week monday, our hearings on the request of the general assembly for an advisory opinion on the question, legal consequences arising from the policies and practices of israel in the occupied palestinian territory, including east jerusalem. now this is an... advisory opinion not to be confused with the pending contentio

activist and lawyer kim sharif said the cases against israeli occupation and genocide at the icj have expose the hypocrisy of the regime's allies. the the actions of the uh state of south africa which is admirable has brought uh the uh core issues of what's really going on into the attention of the world and it's actually exposing the hypocrisy of the the countries that were... previously claiming to be upholding the rule of law under the international fora which they went and on the contrary they are actually aiding and abeting genocide, there is no issue no no doubt that this is genocidal campaign, this is systematic extermination of a specific group of people, which is horrific type of crimes against humanity, and welst there may be issues and debates and considerations about how do we enforce the... ultimate ruling of the court and uh how we go about doing that, that's another day's discussion, but the fact that the case was brought so hastely and with ample evidence and brought it to the court with the most formidable team of legal experts who have done an excellent job, i've wat

jonathan, international lawyer out of lancaster, pennsylvania, and kim sharif, activist and lawyer out of london. thank you both for being with us. let me start it off in lancaster and and jonathan, the icj is expected to... takes six months to issue its order, let's start off here, why, why does it take six months? well, these are 15 judges who are jurists in their own right, by sitting on the world court, they cannot write articles for or books or for journals, so when there's a serious issue like this, they want to think about it thoroughly and write. detailed decision uh with the basis for the decision almost as important as the decision itself, so the icj always takes months and months, sometimes years to reach an opinion, and if there are different opinions, if each judge justice wants to write their own twist on the conclusion, it does take time, yes, okay, well kim, mean is it ' difficult to determine if the zionist regime's occupation is illegal or not? yes, good evening to you, miss marcia and your guest has helpfully explained the situation. no, mean anyone watching the case

alfred das, former secretary of... the un human rights council out of geneva and kim sharif activist and lawyer out of london. well, thank you both for being with me. i like to start this off in geneva with alfred. your perspective, how significant is this hearing on the israeli occupation? personally, i believe that every hearing before. for the international court of justice creates presidents and it is important to show that uh there is opposition, worldwide opposition to the war that israel is waging all the palestinians and in the manner in which this war is being waged, which is certainly genocidal. now for your listeners, and viewers, you should understand that there are several proceedings in progress, the hearings of today that will go on all week and next week monday,

welcome my guests to the program. jonathan, international lawyer out of lancaster, pennsylvania, and kim sharif, activist and lawyer out of london. thank you both for being with us. let me start it off in lancaster and and jonathan, "the icj is expected to take six months to issue its order. let's start off here, why, why does it take six months? well, these are 15 uh, judges who are jurists in their own right, by sitting on the world court, they cannot uh write articles for or books or for journals, so when there's a serious issue like this, they want to..." think about it thoroughly and write a detailed decision uh with the basis for the decision almost as important as the decision itself, so the icj always takes months and months, sometimes years to reach an opinion, and if there are different opinions, if each judge justice wants to write their own twist on the conclusion, it does take time, yes. okay, well kim, i mean, is it uh difficult to determine if the zionist regime's occupation is illegal or not? yes, good evening to you, miss marcia and your guest has helpfully explained the situat