let's ask kim wallace, head of washington policy research.g you say this election can once again be competitive. you're going back to the former president's speech last night? >> well, hi, kelly. it's clear two things as we come to the end of the third week since the presidential debate. one is that former president trump was very effective in solidifying support within the republican party. equally clear was that the process and his speech last night made clear he and his camp don't feel they need to broaden their base to win this year. my guess is that can only be true or relevant if you consider that president biden stays in the race. that's predicated on all the available data. in the last two weeks public opinion surveys that were taken in the first half of the month, before the assassination attempt and before the convention, show significant deterioration down ticket, not just in the president's race, but down ticket in seats in states that have been considered safe for democrats. they're now trending toward republican. >> okay. it alm

brian joins us with more, along with kim wallace. welcome to both of you.an, just the detail once what you're learning? >> what we are learning here is right after that disastrous debate performance by joe biden, ron conway, who to be very clear, is a major democratic donor in silicon valley. he has been loyal to joe biden for years. he's also been loyal to somebody else, former house speaker nancy pelosi. he brought his concerns about biden's debate performance after what happened directly to her in phone conversations, with the former house speaker. the message was clear, it was that the debate effort could really torpedo joe biden's run against donald trump, which at the end of the day, that's ron conway's biggest concern. he's no fan of trump, and his concern is that if this debate is indicative of anything, it could be the beginning of the end in his view for biden. and so he brought those concerns directly to pelosi. she heard him out, what we were told. it's another sign of a potential defection of a major player in the democratic party who raises a