the supreme court upgraded that position -- >> hold on, i want to talk to you about wong kim. wongents were not illegals. they in fact were permanent -- they had permanent domicel -- domicile so they were here legally in the united states. the question i asked was whether or not the supreme court ruled on children whose parents were not citizens -- >> let me explain where it's irrelevant. >> really, let's take a look at the 14th amendment just because we don't have a lot of time. the 14th amendment says that all persons born here are naturalized in the united states and subject to the jurisdiction are citizens of the united states. now, what does subject to the jurisdiction mean? >> this means an individual who is subject to the authority of the united states government, to force the united states laws. and your honor, this very question was considered during the legislative history leading to the ratification. what it means basically, everybody except for foreign diplomats, foreign soldiers and perhaps indians on tribal land. that is what it means. your status is lawful, and lawfu