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joining me for insight and analysis, executive editor of "the recount" john heilemann, kimberly atkins stohr, senior writer for "the boston globe," republican strategist brendan buck and marianna sotomayor of "the washington post." welcome to sunday. it's "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in washington, the longest running show in television history, this is "meet the press" with chuck todd. >>> good sunday morning. we're going to, of course, get to the spike on covid cases, the battle over mandates, my interview with the secretary of state about russia and ukraine in a moment. we'll begin with the series of tornadoes, more typical in the spring, very rare in december, erupted overnight on friday, causing horrific damage and loss of life. all told, these tornadoes touched down in six states in the nation's midsection. one tornado alone was said to be on the ground for an estimated record 200-plus miles, cutting a shocking path of destruction through several states. most of that journey was in hardest-hit kentucky. the worst of the damage occurred in the kentucky town of may

joining me, john heilemann, kimberly atkins stohr, brendan buck, and marianna sotomayor. welcome to sunday's "meet the press". >>> a good tund morning. we're going to get to the spike on covid case, the battle over mandates, my interview with the secretary state, but we're going to begin with the damage in kentucky and neighboring states. a series of tornadoes more typical in the spring, rare in december, erupted overnight on friday, causing horrific damage and loss of life. all told, these tornadoes touched down in six states in the nation's midsection. one tornado alone was said to be on the ground for an estimated record 200 plus miles, cutting a shocking path of destruction through several states. most of that journey was in hardest-hit kentucky. the worst of the damage occurred in the kentucky town of mayfield where a twister hit and destroyed a candle factory that was being used as shelter by scores of people. dozens are feared dead there alone. >> we did, i think, the lights went out, and then we did a rock, rock, rock, and then everything fell down on us. >> i'm l

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she's a professor with the university of -- she host the podcast, sisters in, law along with kimberly atkins, and joyce vance, -- good evening to all of you. peter baker, let's start with you. rough week in general for the white house, particularly with the collapse of build back better unexpectedly on the news last sunday, but, the omicron virus in the testing requirements that it calls for our something the white house has been behind the curb on all week. >> yeah, look, the one thing that president biden promised as a candidate last year for office, he would tackle covid, and help us get through this pandemic. now, through fault of his own, or no fault of his own, were not there. a year later, we seem to be back -- at least when it comes to. infections not in terms of the same level of severity, as with the doctors are telling us about omicron, but for a lot of americans, if feels like we have yet to move past this to your crisis that we've been living. and there's a lot of exhaustion. a lot of it has been taken on the president. you see that in his approval rating. i think people want th

also joining us, kimberly atkins stohr, senior opinion writer for the "boston globe" and msnbc contributorinlaw podcast and my dear friend, former republican steve schmidt is here. steve, i pulled that reporting out and started with it because we spent a lot of time here saying, how? why? why are these people on ventilators saying, can i take the vaccine now? why are they yelling at icu nurses and doctors as they try to sedate them and make them comfortable before intubating them? why? how does it happen? this piece of reporting does as good a job of anything i've seen at explaining how we got here. >> well, at the end of the day, it's a very interesting piece of reporting. i think that offers a great deal of insight to this moment in time, but this rupture in the country is not a new rupture. the construction workers versus the hippie college students in 1971 rioting and fighting in new york city. we have had, in this country, since 1965, when the first troops went ashore, combat troops, regular army troops, marines in danang in the vietnam war, poor blacks, poor whites, hispanics are the

joining me right now is ali vitali, coauthor of "politico's" playbook and kimberly atkins store. >> you'retual campaign right now. governing is campaigning and campaigning is sort of governing. it's all meshed together because for democrats on the hill, they were hoping that they would be able to notch yet another legislative win to end 2021 and send them into 2022 with some big ticket items that they can take back to voters, not just talking about things like the american rescue plan, but talking about things like traditional infrastructure, which they did manage to pass, but also that larger social spending and climate change package that remains stalled. all of that is going to come to fruition when they start messaging for the midterms. a lot of those things were things they thought would resonate with women in the suburbs who were a key part of biden's demographic in 2020, a group of voters that this democratic party was hoping they would be able to hold on to into 2022. they're going to be important in states like georgia and arizona, states that biden managed to put in the blue colu

documentary, and the washington correspondent for new york magazine, along with our political analyst kimberly atkinsstart with that moment when you look at that time that giuliani was standing there pedding the allegations of voter fraud just as the networks were calling the election for joe biden. it almost seems comical and you want to laugh at what you were seeing there. but given at how this has resonated among republicans, what does that moment in time mean for where we are as a country? >> i wouldn't say it was a break with really when people talk about the wheels being off of the trump white house, i would say there were wheels? and so four seasons was not a breaking point because things had been insane, the election had been all about conspiracies for a long time. the administration has been about conspiracies. donald trump's entire political career was about conspiracies. but it was this kind of formal moment where they officially made conspiracies and insanity their strategy going forward. and what followed that was the insurrection. so even though this was this hilariously weird historic

she hosts the podcast sisters in law along with kimberly atkins, joe wine-banks and barbara mcquade. good evening, thanks for joining us tonight. what is the level in fear and concern in the white house and for in terms of stuff. >> it is really incredible timing for the president as you mentioned he is set to deliver remarks tomorrow about the latest strategies on covid. as you mentioned, he tested negative yesterday. he tested negative today. he will be tested again on wednesday. but we will continue with his daily schedule because the cdc guidance doesn't require fully vaccinated individuals to quarantine after an exposure. and i think that underscores a point that we will hear him make tomorrow. and it's even if you're vaccinated, even if you are boosted you could get covid. but that is the best form of protection against hospitalization and deaths. if you are vaccinated the symptoms are likely to be mild. and that is a message that he is only going to drive from tomorrow. it's a shift from earlier this where when we saw the white house emphasized the breakthrough cases are rare.

austin ghouls by, former top economic advisory to president obama and boston globe, senior writer kimberly atkinske with us as well? garrett haake is with us. we're told it was authorized according to kristen welker's reporting authorized by the president, she was not off base at all not that psaki ever is. that's to emphasize the point that the president is upset. >> and this manchin radio interview was kind of all over the place. it had the same character of his hallway gaggles which our audience has become familiar with. manchin complained about pressure from staff, talked about discussions with the white house saying they know what he did to push him over this brink where he had to come out against this bill. he talked about the pressure he's been receiving from protesters and activists and suggested that nobody was going to push him around because he's from west virginia. and more substantively he talked about his concerns that elements of this bill were paid for by budget gimmicks, that sort of thing or that they didn't have work requirements or means testing. these are things we've often h

spent 25 years as federal prosecutor, among the hosts of the podcast sisters-in-law along with kimberly atkins, and dr. vin gupta, critical care pulmonologist in seattle. he is also on faculty at the university of washington institute for health metrics and evaluation. well, good evening and welcome to you all, and joyce, i'd like to begin with you in reading you the statement from the committee about meadows. mr. meadows' flawed lawsuit won't succeed at slowing down the select committee's investigation. maybe they can hear that ticking clock as well. stopping us from getting the information we're seeking. the select committee meets next week to advance a report repding that the house cite mr. meadows for contempt of congress and referreder refer him to the department of justice. joyce, number one, does the suit, as you read it, have any merit, and number two, can one make a privilege argument if the crime in chief, if what they're investigating, oh, by the way, happened to be the attempted overturning of a presidential election? >> well, you know, first things first. this lawsuit is about as

joining us now is kimberly atkins store and co-host of the sisters-in-law podcast and clint watts istagon to say what it was going to do about this. what do you make of the new guidelines? is it enough? is it too much? is it off base? is it right on target? >> well, it's a step in the right direction. i think that it is very late in coming and certainly given the history of the connection between this sort of extremism and the military, i think it is a drop in the bucket. certainly january 6th was an eye-opener to a lot of people about the extent to which members of the military do support, belong to these -- support the views of some of these extremist groups. if you look into history, the connection between extremism and members of the military, particularly white nationalist and white supremacist groups, goes all the way back to the civil war. you have timothy mcveigh who engaged in this sort of belief and carried out violent attacks afterwards. this is something that the military has needed to deal with for a very long time. january 6th brought it into clear focus and secretary a

for the conversation, shannon watts, founder of moms demand action for gun sense in america and kimberly atkinsnd on another day we can get into why but this is america right now. this is, you know, kids in high school, this is the life they live. if your kid's younger than that, this is the trajectory into which they're heading, and you said something that was so prescient, and i quoted you all week last week. i think it was on wednesday. you talked about what we can do, and you always get at the despair of congressional inaction on gun safety measures. you talked about doing things like holding the parents accountable, and i want to just pull this thread a little more. what else can we do? >> there's so much we can do. you know, the discussion has been more about the reactive safety measures that were in place. they had a full-time sheriff's deputy. they had regular active shooter drills, they had security cameras. teachers flagged warning among the students. but none of these measures were enough to stop a school shooting because ultimately, that student still had access to a gun inside thei