becoming, the fact that bennett, reads the theoretical frames of intersection of, so he is reading kimberly crenshaw, and like all this, they know exactly what they are doing, and how to target if that makes sense, and, we know who they are targeting. >> so, first of all, that express our thanks to this amazing conversation. >> [ applause ] >>, we are going to take a 50 minute break, let the record show we stopped right on time, claudius my witness, but thanks so much, we have refreshments at all, but let's be back at 2:15, ready for the second panel, thank you so much. >> today is day 14 of the partial government shutdown, president trump says he paul manafort, jared kushner, meeting with a russian emissary of the russian government to harm hillary. we will take your information, presumably they would use it if they found it useful. they were agreeing to conspire or collude with russia in that one act, the rest of the campaign, trump and his lieutenants, again and again denied the russians were doing anything >> david corn, best-selling author will be the guest on in- depth. that live: program this