it is the brainchild of scholars like derek bell and kimberly crenshaw. it posits the idea that racism goes beyond just individual prejudices and individual beliefs and is embedded in american society and law and policy. one example people bring up when they talk about this issue is racist housing policies and racist lending policies from many decades ago. policies that are no longer enforced today in terms of being exclusively racist but have an impact on segregated neighborhoods, who can afford to buy a home and things like that. host: we are getting our viewers' thoughts on it, questions and comments as well. this is how we are dividing the lines. parents, (202) 748-8000. educators, (202) 748-8001. independent -- all others, (202) 748-8002. text us at (202) 748-8003. include your first name, city and state. critical theory on the education level. take a look at the states. they have all banned teaching of the critical race theory. no state except idaho actually mentions the words critical race theory. legislation bands discussion, training and/or orien

joining me is kimberly crenshaw executive director with the african-american policy forum and she is also a law professor at columbia university and ucla and host of the podcast intersectionality matters, and she is one of the co-founders of critical race theory. given what we saw in virginia, let's talk about this academic legal theory you helped co-found in the '80s now on everyone's lips yet a lot of the haters admit they don't know what it is. listen to tucker carlson on fox. just this past week. >> i've never figured out what critical race theory is to be totally honest. after you're talking about it. they are teaching some races are morally superior -- >> kimberly, can you briefly for our nonacademic viewers and for tucker carlson define what critical race theory is and is not? >> well, thank you so much for asking that question, since so many people don't have a clue, yet they know they're against it. critical race theory is more of a way of looking at the world we have inherited after a legacy of segregation, slavery, manifest destiny, of genocide. it basically links contempo

proposals worked on by people who didn't know what critical race theory was, didn't know who kimberly crenshaw it. these are moms doing the work after school and then being accused of a grand indoctrination scheme, and tumbles out from there. southlake was one of the first places to begin this fight. >> the podcast is called southlake. it is available wherever you get your podcast. >>> the cdc recommends booster shots for all adults. >>> and later, many argue joe biden is actually making progress and succeeding. g. to the owner of a large manufacturing firm. i've got anywhere from 10 to 50 projects going at any given time. i absolutely have to be sharp. let me tell ya, i was struggling with my memory. it was going downhill. my friend recommended that i try prevagen and over time, it made a very significant difference in my memory and in my cognitive ability. i started to feel a much better sense of well-being. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. is struggling to manage your type 2 diabetes knocking you out of your zone? lowering your a1c with once-weekly ozempic® can help you get back in i

those are straight out of kimberly crenshaw's writings, verbatim, the writings that formed the movement science, history, the arts, and it is not slowing down. >> jesse: tony kinnett joins us now. you are saying -- yeah, they don't have crt 101 aftermath class, but what they do have is the entire crt infused in everys single course and every single classroom throughout the curriculum, is that right? >> absolutely. there is this a very clever trick that a lot of administrators will pull. in education, the rhetorical things that consist of what learning. curriculum, which is what the students are learning, and then pedagogy, which is how it is taught. so we can officially tell parents, we are not teaching critical race theory. it is not an indiana academic standards, but all of a sudden, the classroom door shuts, and the teacher starts teaching through a lens of this race essentialism that pits students against each other based on their color. >> jesse: so give some advice to parents out there. perhaps they don't know if crt is in the school that their kids are going to. how would they go

passed indicate several definitions of racism and other instances out of white fragility and kimberly crenshaw's work on critical race theory and delgado's writings. we hosted gloria billings who wrote in 1995 a large essay on why it should be implemented in k through 12 schools when she told the staff teaching is political and critical race theory is a big thing and our equity office mentions it quite often all the time in personal meetings and professional development steeped into the entire district. >> so what are these so-called characteristics of white supremacy that are -- like what are they? >> well, depending on who you ask, white supremacy can be any strawman that you can build. what do you want to gripe about today? punctuality, i've seen slides indicate in racial equity meetings that state it's a sense of urgency is apparently a factor of white supremacy culture. being respectful and expecting respect from others, being on time for things, worship of the written word, meaning i cite things when i state them. those are all aspects of white supremacy culture and that's rather interesti

certainly no child has to read kimberly crenshaw. my 8-year-old about learning that.is the implementation, being taught to view others to this lens and treat people accordingly. [inaudible] elizabeth: you are seeing that in public elementary schools and public high schools in every state nationwide? >> every state nation by we have a map on our website we have a to play and receive tips and across the country vet them in fact check and if things put up with backup for this is not just here to there documents, their screenshots are pdf people can make up their mind for themselves of them of their children to learn but they can see the evidence in front of their eyes. elizabeth: of yours are being misled across the country if they watch the other networks and up until the truth your final word? >> it is offensive and sad. the democrats proceed on this line of argument telling parents in speaking down to them at their peril. people i've sink him out in droves to vote on tuesday night. elizabeth: and minority voters minority parents us and they don't want that they would

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this is yes we're not reading the exact text of rich and dell got owe or kimberly crenshaw but it isbill: how do you identify that if it's in every aspect of education? >> one example that comes to mind is i found -- the curriculum documents in a math class instead of teaching geometry the themes of the math class are identity, oppression, liberation which we should learn about those things in introduction to sociology class but not a math class. >> dana: interesting you bring up math. i have been following this issue in california but also in virginia. i was surprised to learn one of glenn youngkin's applause lines on the campaign trail was he talked about bringing advanced math to every high school in virginia and that was an applause line. people want that. here is a letter from -- to governor newsom in california politicizing math. for all the rhetoric about equity, social justice, environmental care and culturally appropriate no hope for a fair, just, equal society if our schools uproot long proven reliable math methods and instead try to build a mathless new world on unsound id

it is the brainchild of scholars like derek bell and kimberly crenshaw. the idea that racism goes beyond just individual prejudices and individual beliefs and is embedded in american society and law and policy. one example people bring up when they talk about this issue is racist housing policies and racist lending policies from many decades ago. policies that are no longer enforced today in terms of being exclusively racist but have an impact on segregated neighborhoods, who can afford to buy a home and things like that. host: we are getting our viewers' thoughts on it, questions and comments as well. this is how we are dividing the lines. parents, (202) 748-8000. educators, (202) 748-8001. independent -- all others, (202) 748-8002. text us at (202) 748-8003. include your first name, city and state. critical theory on the education level. take a look at the states. they have all banned teaching of the critical race theory. no state except idaho actually mentions the words critical race theory. legislation bands discussion, training and/or orientation tha