robinson -- michael robinson yesterday, who was before the ogr committee, informed kimberly harris, the white house counsel, about the investigation going on. were you aware of that? >> i was not aware of that. >> you were not aware of it. it was interesting that back in may you advised administrator johnson to get a handle on the regional commissioner neeley's -- this is may of 2011. on rc's travel. the regional commissioner neeley's travel. is that correct? >> chairman mica, i did brief administrator johnson on the interim report -- >> but did you tell them to get a handle on his travel expenditures? >> i told the regional administrator to get a handle on his travel in august of 2011 -- >> so you told him. >> i told her. it's ruth cox. >> okay. ruth cox. okay. and then we have a trip to hawaii. we have another trip by neeley to hawaii in october. another trip to atlanta. another warning. susan brita warned i guess you about an upcoming 17-day south pacific junket head by neeley? >> actually, chairman mica, we were so concerned about it we contacted ms. brita, the deputy administrator.

he let kimberly harris, white house counsel, know about active ig investigation regarding fraud and wasteful spending related to the western regions conference. in august, you felt it was important enough to put ruth cox, regional administrator for region nine -- let me stop there. did you put ruth cox in as the new regional administrator? >> yes, we appointed ruth cox as the regional administrator. >> why? >> we needed to fill the regional administrator's position. it had been double-filled by jeff kenneally for quite a while. i felt it was -- i'd been working hard to get regional administrators in all the regions. this was the one that was still outstanding. and i was eager to get it filled. for a number of reasons, not the least of which is that the regional administrator is a -- an important person in the line -- in the chain of command, in the line of authority, over the regions. and i'm the administrator of the whole organization, the regional administrator is in the regions, and it's important to have that presence there. >> you advised the new regional administrator, ruth cox, to get

june, after providing that briefing to miss brita, somehow the gsa chief yesterday, informed kimberly harris, the white house counsel, about the investigation going on. were you aware of that? >> i was not aware. >> you were not aware. it was interesting that back in may you advised administrator johnson to get a handle. this was maybe 2011 -- this was may 2011. >> i did brief administrator johnson on the interim report. >> did you tell them to get a handle on his travel expenditure? >> i told the regional administrator to get a handle on his travel. >> so, you told him? >> i told her. it is ruth cox. >> ok. and then we have a trip to hawaii in october. another trip to atlanta. a warning, susan brita warned, i guess you, about 8 john kerry. >> -- about a junket. action, we contacted her. >> you contacted her. you expressed concern, right? >> yes, i did. >> what happened? >> i expressed concern. after a review the plans, that called it off, didn't? >> no. >> another one, in california, hawaii, guam, another trip to atlanta. four days a site visit to hawaii. where is napa? is that in californi

michael robertson here yesterday before the ogr committee informed kimberly harris, the white house council, about the investigation going on. were you aware of that? >> i was not aware of that. >> you were not aware of it. it was interesting that back in may, you advised administrator johnson to get a handle on the regional commission. this is may of 20 # -- 2011 on the regional commissioner's travel; is that correct? >> chairman mica, i did brief administrator johnson on the interim report. >> but did you tell them to get a handle on his travel expenditures? >> i told the regional administrator to get a handle on his travel in august -- >> so you told him. >> her. >> okay. and then we have a trip to hawaii. we have another trip to hawaii in october. another trip to atlanta. another warning, susan warned, i guess, you, about an upcoming 17-day south pacific junket headed by neeley? >> actually, chairman, we were so concerned about it we contacted the deputy administrator. >> who contacted her? >> who said, you know -- >> you notified the regional administrator about the upcoming junket and

robinson, michael robinson yesterday who was before ogr committee informed kimberly harris, the white house counsel, about the investigation going on. were you aware of that? >> i was not aware of that. >> you were not aware of it. it was interesting that back in may you advised administrator johnson to get a handle on regional administer orer neely, this was in may, administrator neely's travel, is that correct? >> chairman mica, i did brief administrator johnson on the interim report -- >> but did you, did you tell them to get a handle on his travel expenditures? >> i told the regional administrator to get a handle on his travel in august of -- >> so you told him? >> i told her. it's ruth cox. >> okay, ruth cox. okay. and then we have a trip to hawaii, we have another trip to, by neely, to hawaii in october, another trip to atlanta, another warning -- susan brita warned, i guess, you about an upcoming 17-day south pacific junket headed by neely? >> actually, chairman mica, we were so concerned about it we contacted ms. brita, the deputy administrator -- >> you contacted her? >> and

kimberly: they don't care. >> dana: kent conrad, who is retiring said i'm going to have a markup on the simpson-bowles plan. markup means they have to vote on it. guess what? harryd calls up and says no you don't. democrats won't have to take a vote on that. harry reid didn't come up with that on his own. that came from the white house. >> bob: the simpson bowles committee not created by obama. it was act of congress. the idea was you have a budget that had to be voted on. eight republicans backed off of it. >> eric: president obama, bob, you're wrong. >> dana: congress created it after he requested it. >> bob: he requested it. congress passed it. what it said is you were going to have no amendments up and down. remember that? the republicans at the very end backed off of that. >> greg: on that note -- >> bob: he didn't make it mandatory. >> greg: we're going to take a break. >> dana: are you still here? >> greg: yeah. get a snack. coming up, the president halted the keystone pipeline in january but now he has a new plan. what will obama do now? probably something. also don't forget to e-mail us at mali thefive@foxnews.com. write "i love greg" in the subject hea