in june he briefed kimberly harris, counsel with the white house. do you know kimberly harris? >> i know kimberly harris but i'm not aware of the particular communication. >> that's another thing. i'm wondering in this flow. your job is financial management and proving this. and did the igs report back to you? are you informed when there's waste, inefficiency, corruption, or any of the above? >> as a general manner, i review ig reports. >> did you review the ig report for gsa? >> i have read the ig report. >> did you -- did mr. miller bring it to you, also, in may or in june of last year? >> no, he did not. >> he did not. so it went to kimberly harris, is what the information we got. then nothing was done with it. we didn't see it. it was never given to us. now i know why they only wanted to give us one line. they gave us one line that was their total administrative cost. now, of course, we're not the brightest people in the world, but we figured out, if you are spending 300% more in 2 1/2 years, now that would be a financial management issue. wouldn't it be, mr. werfel, if you