the last several years is this broadening of what we call thing diamond definition is that the kimberly process the united nations considers to be a conflict diamond right now all the cells with our views was perpetrated by by rebel groups. certainly is something that should be continued to be part of the definition but i think that it's. you know more responsible thing which to do would be charging to do. and respond to rights abuses by private security companies and. state security forces good point i think that's something that i take into account when i look at the conflict diamonds are often called a resource curse can you talk about why despite the great economic promise of these resources there usually turn and put into two different uses. so you see this with a lot lot of minerals not just diamonds gold with zeppelin probably the. biggest the biggest mineral shipped out of there would be called. things that essentially go into things like like leaves and computers and digital cameras. so much anything technical technological right now runs on gold chain tungsten attention when those rol

to you at the cost of a human life that's why the international community has an act of the kimberly process a mechanism aimed at cutting the flow of blood diamonds earlier i was joined by alan martin director of research and partnership africa canada to discuss the current state of the diamond trade i first asked him how the kimberley process came about and if it's doing enough to curb the violence surrounding these gems. or or. very valuable the very small the very valuable in the very. move across borders and that means that they are rebels best friend and that's the essentially the reason why you. came across today is because rebel rebel movements ten years ago fifteen years ago were. mining in trading these things often includes. companies such as to be errors and mining centers and trading centers and hoping to look even elsewhere they were quite happy to take your time and without asking many difficult questions. so if you think about the cost of funding a civil war for example you go to places where there's in the middle east or whether it's asia or even africa you can buy buy maybe