host: kimberly wehle? guest: a couple things. there is a difference between property and human beings. on january 6, it was about people. there were deaths and donald trump had control of the crowd. the indictment talks about how he waited hours before he called off the crowd. he had the power to do that and he didn't. i think the story is not the riot. that is not with the indictment is about. it is about the step-by-step, multistage planning and attempt to take an election from the people for donald trump to med that he did not legitimately win. it was not his. that's the story, not the rioting. the indictment is not about the rioting. it is about a plan, and it details a step-by-step the people involved over many months, starting in november and going past january. when one thing did not work, he tried it something else to take power for himself. that is the story, not the rioting. yes, nancy pelosi and others were fearing for their lives, another reason why people should take the indictment so seriously. host: sandra, a democ

host: kimberly wehle? guest: a couple things.re is a difference between property and human beings. on january 6, it was about people. there were deaths and donald trump had control of the crowd. the indictment talks about how he waited hours before he called off the crowd. he had the power to do that and he didn't. i think the story is not the riot. that is not with the indictment is about. it is about the step-by-step, multistage planning and attempt to take an election from the people for donald trump to med that he did not legitimately win. it was not his. that's the story, not the rioting. the indictment is not about the rioting. it is about a plan, and it details a step-by-step the people involved over many months, starting in november and going past january. when one thing did not work, he tried it something else to take power for himself. that is the story, not the rioting. yes, nancy pelosi and others were fearing for their lives, another reason why people should take the indictment so seriously. host: sandra, a democrat,

host: let me give kimberly wehle the final minute here. guest: this is a response to both of the last comment. i think we are all people, we are human and we have a value system. we know how to live our lives with integrity. calling people names and going to black and white thinking and pointing fingers and othering and undermining people's humanity will not bring anyone together. i would say sit down and identify what makes you a good person or what parts of yourself are you proud of. that is how you should live every day of your life, including when we come around these discussions around politics. maybe then we can see through all the lies to some degree towards this common light that i think we all do have as americans and as people. it is something around kindness and truth. it does exist we will not get there by attacking each other. host: kimberly wehle is the university of baltimore law professor, legal contributor to abc news. a guest on this program on occasion. >> your that his book is master, slave, has, wife. it tells the stor