kimco also got an upgrade from finch to a-minus, flin said is a game changer. >> it gives us, i thinkstorm and also gives us access to capital, improves the debt capital we can access with a unique group of investors. >> reporter: flynn cited the potential kroger and whole foods expanding again. trader joe's and sprouts growing as well as ethnic grocers seeing more demand in offering a whole new merchandising mix. a bright outlook for this sector, kelly. >> diana, thank you. >>> my next guest expects a quarter point cut next week, he is not ruling out a bigger one, specially if the tone hold around 50/50 in the days before the decision christian is here, vice chairman of ever core isi great to see you so a last-minute call, you think? >> i suspect that chair powell is very conflicted coming into this meeting my hunch is his own instincts may go more in the direction of the bigger 50 basis point cut, though there seems to be a lot of inertia on the wider committee. and more likely than not still i think it goes to that so-called dovish 25, so 25 promise to step up in future meetings, i