and kimi baden, the conservative leader had just said in a statementjust in the last few minutes thatt as she put it, life sentences, i think she must mean whole life orders can be imposed on minors, on people under the age of 18, so clearly that is a promise from the conservative party there that they will look to make it possible that someone could be given the sentence, which would mean they would never be released even if they are under the age of 18. —— kemi badenoch. she began her statement by saying axel rudakubana should never be released from prison. the leader is going one step further and said there would like to be a debate now about capital punishment about the death penalty, and whether or not that is something that this country should now discuss. so, as often happens, the moments of these really horrendous crimes when sentencing happens, there is a discussion about what is the appropriate penalty for these crimes that go beyond the pale, that are just so extreme that we cannot really 1408 00:09:56,203 --> 00:09: