are the professionals and there are the amateurs and the amateur division third place went to kimmy taylor, second place to pillar [inaudible] and first place of scotty of cbs local media, all of them really outstanding performances. the mistress of ceremonies were debbie durst, the comedian and entertaining and funny and there was music by the slot blades and a cable car band -- i guess a muni band, very talented group of folks that keep it lively, but the real excitement is when the professionals, the cable car conductors and grips got up and i think i wasn't a judge but i think the judges had a difficult time because all of them were really outstanding, so please do announce that the third place went to joseph sue, second place ken lain regardy, and the first place winner, defender champion, held on to the championship was trit whitaker and he's here with us. he's been with muni for 13 years and cable car for 11 years and worked as both a grip and a conductor and second time in a row winning so we would like to call him up and congratulate him and maybe we can entice him to give us a li