a ma e people kind of got from this? william: i just feel like the time has changed and it also changed people's reading about those films happened before, because last year was the 25th anniversary of "mrs. doubtfire." so people usually go to that shooting location on steiner street to make a pilgrimage to robin williams and the movie. so even after 25 years, people still have a lot of memories about that film. so i also want to talk about, like, the film, how does it change the hollywood stereotype of drag characters or gay characters in a movie? so it has a lot of meaning for me and also for the community. robert: not to mention robin williams, a significant bay area figure. how about for you, what inspired you to kind of take that on as the topic? william: well, because i'm a big fan for robin williams for a really long time. i guess, probably, i watched that film when i was five, i guess, but at the time i never thought about, "oh, that is a drag, and that there's--and robin williams' character's brother's a gay cou

if you're specifically pushing this kind of a threat that this kind of a organizational change within the government you have to look at who's saying it yeah and then that's the thing that really blew my mind with. this story this morning is assuming you're looking at a time like this is insane that this many publications and all over and over one and not unknown organizations a big organization like you said is on the terror why do you think like you because you and i have both been sniffing around the media for many a time now do you think this kind of manipulation we're going to see more of this kind of. relation by governments and organizations they can influence public opinion because clearly that's what this guy was meant to do these articles were meant to do or you see more of it we see it all the time i mean we've seen it for. anything that you say well what are say the united states has voice of america we've talked about on this show you there's a number of books well documented how they went and then had famous writers that you know and love writing anti-communist anti-soci

that is kind of the analogy. host: let me give you a piece of the legislation reporting on, specifically the algorithmic accountability act. what could that do in terms of technology and ai? what are they proposing? guest: we talked about the importance of data in developing artificial intelligence systems. look atexample, you housing data and loans being made for housing, if you look at 50 years of data, you would find there is a lot of bias. there is a history of the country of redlining and declining loans to minorities and african-americans in particular. if you now overlaying a system artificial intelligence making decisions based on this data, it is likely to continue those biases. human biases will get transferred to machines. if a machine skin starts doing very rapid decision-making, we might not be able to find those discrepancies. so what we are trying to do is make sure the underlying machine is free of bias. let's hear from jack in salem, oregon. republican line. caller: good morning, c-span. good mor

reject any kind of. drove us to budapest has never made any kind of struck me so this is number one number 2 you know we i mean hungary and companies have. hungary. when it comes to the tools and these are national interests so if there's an opportunity to buy gas from a different source. competitive price. another situation of this is. the 3rd. and diversifying the. sources exclude each other. service. to see the. operational. 2021 because if this is there some other form of diversification diversification and they are. still russian them in then i assume it gets done the same level as the freedom gas from the united states. actually. it's a market issue you know that in this day and age particularly the trumpet ministration not everything is the market issue i mean they bring politics into almost everything and putting the energy issue aside the trumpet ministration is pretty open about threatening european companies european institutions with sanctions and undercutting the. full do you think they will

of the muslim faith was forced to take from any kind of. places but anyway you know when it comes to let's say migration in order to address the. labor market challenges i think that that must be left as a national competence we do all the member states we do not need any kind of migration when it comes to be sure and when it comes you allow the germans and others to make that decision for themselves i mean you know we've never judged them . you know prime minister was talking about stopping. illegal migration you know i mean if a country i mean if we have to leave it doesn't. make a decision how you would like to address. your challenges if think that. is a bad. for 5 years under enormous pressure. to act according to our. people. even the legally i think it's one thing to rail against the establishment it's another thing to offer an alternative your party is now still. within the european parliament you are part of the establishment is that going to change after. there is a very serious debate. which is still forming the biggest group in.

china where they will not face our kind ofjustice anyway.hat they don't have this kind of legislation to extradite people back to china, if they don't, then it could become a haven for criminals, it could be a big centre for criminal people. people with criminal intent. but, you know, it is clearly very, very unpopular. if it was 2 million people, that turned out on the streets, and we don't know, the police said it was far less, but if it was, it is a massive proportion of the people who live there. get now. thank you very much. bowled over, they reckon a billion people watch this. that is what we claim and again we have no way of verifying that but they claim a billion people watched this game, india and pakistan, always a hot ticket and i think 0ld india and pakistan, always a hot ticket and i think old trafford holds about 25,000, something like that, and they had 50 times applications for the number of tickets —— 20 times applications. india walked it, basically, over300 runs when they departed and then it being manchester, and i can sa

this is kind of like generically indigenous people. but what we do see here is we see some latin transients -- any idea what that might say? i will tell you right now you do not need to know the latin to have the answer. not a single guess? no idea? no clue. latin, not focus on the i would focus on the comparison between the two images. student: come over and help us. >> come over and help us. once again, we see this imagery, scriptureric, this see the-invoked when we rise of this organization and the early 18th century. but that is another story we will get to later. thank you, everybody. have a great day. we will see later. [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2018] [captioning performed by the national captioning institute, which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] >> you can watch lectures in history every weekend on american history tv. we take you inside college classrooms to learn about topics ranging from the american revolution to 9/11. that is saturday at 8:00 p.m. and midnight

how we are kind of learn from them to sort of figure out ways to survive in a kind of world and and kind of get the strength from that. in berlin they find the space they need to be creative they've already moved far beyond the confines of the club culture. everything. talks about it sounds. i agree dealing with very big issues but we always kind of talk about it both in a sort of micro and a micro level that is something very personal but also something that is very global or something that anyone can kind of relate to or. it's mainly the clubs that make the city we make to insiders who were in on the phenomenon from the start. michelle fiedler now a d.j. in the trendy bedtime club and photographer martin in the 1990 s. he chronicled the spaces for the wild new subculture but it felt as if you were stumbling through a land of adventure every day something changed. a 990 s. felt like a new beginning to me techno had a lot to do with the period after reunification. tops of the fall of the wall eastern full of empty lots and buildings abandoned industrial spaces with taken over by bravest

and so i think it's a question of you know kind of what do they see the future but also kind of who do they believe can deliver you know the problems and who's a better alternative you have an economic analysis here you think political islam is secondary to how the economy's going but what do the conservative voters what do what does the base for everyone want to see for the nation what are their interests what are their goals. in reference to my words earlier like the. k.p. has always been a quality of different forces within the society nothing necessarily coming from a very conservative background nor a political islamist worldview so those center right forces have come together and the a.t.p. managed to deliver within the 1st decades what they were looking for they were looking for more representation they were looking for more opportunities in the clinic ways and we've seen this huge boom in the in the countryside in the not totally new entrepreneurs came out new holdings perform new companies started so they can't be managed to create it's all in kind of middle class. base which

of gave the economy a living a kind of portfolio style set of jobs they maybe drive. they maybe drive a lift they maybe do their house through the they may do things through task rabbit what if they could literally monetize that spare time they have to go and walk and talk with a senior that doesn't sound like a technology based job but that would all reside on a ai infused platform in the same way that the. most of the people who do care work are women and women of color and guess what guess who's been taking care of other people's kids since they were inflamed and brought to north america black women this idea that somehow these historically oppressed suppressed communities are now in some type a better situation because there's an app interface between them and the new people who want that work done and then call it a fascinating new gig ing opportunity i think is just completely nonsense the experience of marginalized people basically foretells what's to come for the entire population 8 degrees of control or lessening of autonomy. a real difficulty in confronting.

i do today and kind of learning to kind of reframe what success looks like for you.cted your mental health. yeah, with me, and probably you as well, i find myself in a really dark place because i get the pain and i'm in a dark room in a dark space and i am in my head for hours on end. yeah, it's like what nathan said, you are in a dark place physically on your own and in lots of pain and you are in a dark place mentally because you just can't escape all of the anxiety that starts to build up when you try and prevent it from happening again. i think it has a really negative effect on your mental health. if it was a headache, i would be so happy. because i could continue my daily life, i would not be worried about anything with a headache. you can pop a few tablets and continue and get through a normal day like everyone else. i think we can't. itjust doesn't seem possible. yeah, and i am almost ok with people misunderstanding how severe a migraine attack is physically, but it's kind of like the emotional pain that ijust don't think they understand. you know, it has rea

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do-gooders of all kinds. pastors, nonprofit workers, people with hopeful thoughts as they stare at the horizon. it is a lovely place to work. brian: what do you teach? kate: survey courses. puritans to mega-churches. then i do smaller seminars. i'm a specialist in modern american christianity. for the past 10 years, i have been studying televangelists and mega-churches and just people with beautiful hair. [laughter] brian: i want to show you a picture you have on your site of your husband and your son. how old is zach in that picture? kate: that's his baby dedication. we grew up me mennonites. t-shirt. an i heart so he is wearing it to make it clear that he is being dedicated not baptized. that is so all the mennonites won't reject us. he is wearing that onesie to make it clear that he is being dedicated, not baptized. i think he was nine months or something. brian: what is a mennonite? kate: they are a people who love to talk about their suffering. hey came out with their leader in the 1700's, and they moved

protest or abolish certain kinds of systems. or prevent them from being developed right so errors noise that sort of saying that seems increasingly like an area for fruitful discovery for civil disobedience is the larger question of what we're trying to accomplish as a society is the issue here and the technology makes it somewhat explicit if one of the things we think we want is law enforcement seeing everything that happens in our society with video covering every square or every inch of the public square and facial recognition identifying every person wandering through that is that the society we want to live in it's not the society i want to live in i think that's a terrible world and there's something intimate about the face in particular isn't there i feel like we're only just starting to clock the ways that the data is gathered about all of us but i feel that people instinctively understand and have a lot of unease about their face being collected thinking about detroit earlier this year the city announced that it would b

10 years ago, 12 years ago, before my father had the condition and before i then kind of did lots of dementia, i certainly would have thought and said blithely that i was made of my memories. i would have said that my value and my selfhood lay in my purpose and my self—sufficiency and my independence, my reciprocal relationships, my success, my youth, my vigour, all the things that we so value in today's society and now i profoundly don't believe that any more, so if i think about someone like my father i think he didn't lose his self. i think he lost himself to his self, he lost his sense of self, he lost his identity, he eventually lost his shame, his self—consciousness, he lost his ability to have a place in the world but yet somehow, and this is quite miraculous in a way, there's something about being human which means we survive. we survive everything. because you know dementia close—up, intimately, can you describe for us what it might feel like in that transitional period when you kind of, somebody says to you you've got dementia and you know all about it and you have to prepa

and it was kind of like, yes. what studyingt of the history of women in particular can direct our attention to, this notion that actually all of us the things that we do have a history. of of the kinds relationships that we have, the opportunities that we have and don't have, all of these things are grounded in history. shaped by history. i think there is something about looking at women at whatever time, certainly in this period, that takes us into a different terrain of history. that is really important. that really is almost like what is most important, not just in women's lives but in everybody's lives. >> cabin, the last word to. --catherine, the last word to you. >> although i am very empathetic to all of your collective projects and i welcome people to it, i became derailed and d eranged into biographies. i'm sorry. into by derailed murphy. i feel also the kind of biographies that are being done particularly by women scholars often frame it in a larger portrait. i do see that as really important and i will

how would and how could that kind of system fit in with this kind of system? >> that's a complicated question, but i think this is being done in a pilot. the goal would be for -- and i think by default it's going to end up being large primary care practices because you have to be able to manage data and risk and this sort of thing. i think it's seen as one other option. i don't know that that is bad. i think it's like trying a series of ideas. i think some hospital systems, health care systems, have tried to do it, and they've lived side by side. i think other than a medicare for all model, these kinds of things might become options that people could choose, and again, you would be promoting private enterprise in an approach. you just have to be careful. you can get reinsurance and protections, but there is a lot of risk involved in this. that's why new insurance companies have such a hard time. >> it's an incremental move in the right direction. if you go to your primary care doc and he gets paid $35 a visit, if you have something more serious, he'll send you

protest or abolish certain kinds of systems. or prevent them from being developed right so errors noise that sort of saying that seems increasingly like an area for fruitful discovery for civil disobedience the larger question of what we're trying to accomplish as a society is the issue here and the technology makes it somewhat explicit if one of the things we think we want is law enforcement seeing everything that happens in our society with video covering every square or every inch of the public square and facial recognition identifying every person wandering through that is that the society we want to live in it's not the society i want to live in i think that's a terrible world and there's something intimate about the face in particular isn't there i feel like we're only just starting to clock the ways that the data is gathered about all of us but i feel that people instinctively understand and have a lot of unease about their face being collected thinking about detroit earlier this year the city announced that it would be u

and just kind of came to the point where i realised that i had to kind of fit my working life around my migraines because they are just so unpredictable that i need this flexibility now to kind of get up and decide how much i can do on any given day. it's currently saturday morning. instead of doing normal weekend stuff, i woke up with the worst pain on the right side of my head, just so sore, i feel so sick. and this is probably going to be me for the rest of the day. just lying here, waiting for the pain to be over. the biggest thing for me is kind of managing my ambition. so obviously i was always very ambitious, but i have had to kind of learn to redirect that ambition because the harder i was working, the more unwell i was becoming. it is about being realistic, but also a little bit optimistic as well. when emer gets a migraine, she will take over—the—counter medicines, like paracetomol and ibuprofen. she is also taking vitamins and supplements every day to try and help. none of them really work. alice has had better luck, though. they are so much better than they were. i starte

other kind of the current system definition in. the new shithead. you know what i i don't want to talk to a communist news agency forgive me you'll have to find someone to. lower the trying to say with a swastika meaning of the going to be just like the jews this is exactly when my father. died. so i. mean yes you see into that where. we have to be the bad guys. i think i think now is the. fight fall so it's an indication of how important most movements are. so that it's also an indication of where the left must move towards we are definitely winning it because we have the people they have people in power but we are in the month. it's hard to take some from somebody if you know have someone replacing. we want to do this interview today to get all these markets open that may take me. 4 years ago. so i'm going to tell you stop selling drugs if we'll hire someone to put the money in a box. they just mean all the way the life has almost been basically a color speech before the words do you guys know what security security positions open us to that. davi

of gave the economy a living a kind of portfolio style set of jobs they maybe drive. they maybe drive a lift they may be due to their house through a b m b they may do things through task rabbit what if they could literally monetize that spare time they have to go and walk and talk with a senior that doesn't sound like a technology based job but that would always ride on a ai infused platform in the same way that. most of the people who do care work are women and women of color and guess what guess who's been taking care of other people's kids since they were in slaved and brought to north america black women this idea that somehow these historically oppressed suppressed communities are now in some type a better situation because there's an app interface between them and the new people who want that work done and then call it a fascinating new gig ng opportunity i think is just completely nonsense the experience of marginalized people basically foretells what's to come for the entire population degrees of control lessening of autonomy. a real difficulty in confronting

and as a kid, that kind of became highmy ethos.ople to walk light around me, i want them to fear me. i don't want to fear anybody ever again. i don't want to be on the ground. i was born and raised in sacramento. my mother didn't know how to deal with me as a child. she would lock me in the room and i would cry and i would cry. as soon as i could get out of the way, that was appreciated, so i would go on these little adventures, ride my bike around. i'm about 7 years old, and i make friends with a kid in the neighborhood. he is 17. 16, 17 years old. like, he's into dungeon and dragons, all of this stuff my mom absolutely is -- an adamant christian. she's definitely not appreciating any of this stuff, you know? as a predatory person, he's conditioning me, he's conditioning me to be comfortable with him and to let my guard down with him. i was being molested by him. obviously, this isn't his first time doing this and he's like, you tell anybody about this, i'm going to cut your throat and he slaps me around and he pushes me out the w

and the system was able to respond to that you know the inclusive political institutions was able to kind of respond to the enormous increase in inequality and the political challenges that create is to the time the american constitution was written in the in the late 18th century james madison and other people who formulated it they were worried about populism in the 1780s so i think populism is an old thing inequalities and old thing you know what we try to argue in the book is that you know these challenges of being met successfully in the past in inclusive societies like the united states but that's not to say that that's inevitable mr robinson you mentioned inequalities and all the. being in the us i think it would also agree that it's been exacerbated greatly by globalization and at least to some extent this wave of populism especially as represented by donald trump is a push against globalization and the very specific set of facts that has an american society now many in the united states believe that trump is a russian creature but regardless of russia's suppose its role in those

in itss to naturalize own kind of way some of the things that actually were kind of radically contingent at moments. and so that to me suggests that we really, really need to pay ofention to exactly the kind formations in motion, the various forces that are going to be, some of them ideological, some of them material, some of them effective. are not necessarily in any way mutually exclusive. are just different ways of approaching the same questions and looking at where there's moments of tension to understand what, rupturing? >> a hand over here. the aisle. >> thank you very much for a truly wonderful panel. i'm going to start with two twok questions and then questions. so i want to push back a little bit about thinking of power differently. i think maybe the field itself has gotten too far away from thinking of power in traditional senses, particularly guns and moment ofly during a united states military primacy where the united states kills people around the world constantly. and i think as a field we haven't examined the military as should have. quick little comment. it'si also think

and it's kind of weird to look back and see kind of like how young i was just like a year ago. believe me, we all go through that on tv. how about in terms of, you know, why you chose that, though? i mean, did you feel as though it just was important that somebody who went through it, as well as somebody who is of asian descent, actually speak up? jack: yeah, well, my donor was a 23-year-old from--well, it was from australia, but then they said it was from new zealand. but you know, it was really, yeah, inspiring. robert: of asian descent? jack: well, we don't know, but we're guessing, but yeah. robert: okay, in terms of the future, having done that, does that kind of fit into, maybe somethingsing, but yeah. that you'd like to do later? jack: yeah, i mean, i would definitely keep trying to get people to sign up. and i think that'll always be a part of me. robert: we heard your public service announcement, but the people who are out there who are watching who haven't done that, who haven't registered, what do you want them to understand or to know? jack: well, to register, it is

administration to his people in the administration that they have to tone down all kind of all kind of you know statements that good increase tension and i believe that the president of united states might send troops or but the and even let me add this on account what happened. you might even order to some kind of calibrated response to what happened to the u.s. strong not necessary and you're on probably in syria or iran but the fact remains that i think that given the qualities nation and his administration given the election but they are coming in united states and i seem to find a united states going to do it's going to be calibrated and hopefully it's going to it's not going to lead to war ok well you know mohamed you know they say they want to send troops to the region a lot of troops in the region there's a lot of there's a lot of material there i mean i'm astounded will not i'm not a founded you know the western media makes it sound like no one's there i mean iran is completely surrounded by. friendly forces either united states or friendly to the united states i mean it's a c

do you think this kind of manipulation we're going to see more of this kind of manipulation by governments and organizations the public because clearly that's what this guy was meant to do these articles are meant to do or you see more of it we see it all the time i mean we. seen it for as little for anything. but our say the united states has a voice of america and we've talked about on this show you there's a number of books well documented how they went in and had famous writers that you know and love writing anti-communist anti-socialism propaganda for the paris review i mean you had already writing propaganda for the u.s. government not even 50 years ago the idea that oh we didn't. even have to grips with the pain may come up but i think the us i think anybody in government of any country using a forum article as your source for government information is already failing to fail i mean look at look a new list of the list of the media organizations. diplomat or daily caller america page magazine a bunch of others would like references tweet. big twitter following this guy always the sam

of gave the economy a living a kind of portfolio style set of jobs they maybe drive.they maybe drive a lift they may be due to their house through a b m b they may do things through task rabbit what if they could literally monetize that spare time they have to go and walk and talk with a senior that doesn't sound like a technology based job but that would always ride on a ai infused platform in the same way that. most of the people who do care work are women and women of color guess what guess who has been taking care of other people's kids sense they were in slaved and brought to north america black women this idea that somehow these historically oppressed suppressed communities are now in some type a better situation because there's an app interface between them and the new people who want that work done and then call it a fascinating new gig ng opportunity i think is just completely nonsense the experience of marginalized people basically foretells what's to come for the entire population degrees of control lessening of autonomy. a real difficulty in confronting an

is this the kind of thing that's a blip mark, murray, or do you think this is the kind of thing thatemocratic opponents and president trump seize on immediately and run with for weeks to come. >> yeah, craig, we're in a world where everyone seizes on almost everything, including president trump who tweeted about it this morning. in a campaign with all the ups and downs and all the different kind of scandals and controversies, this is probably a forgivable sin, craig. but when it comes to joe biden, as you ended up mentioning, he has less margin for error given that a plagiarism scandal, and this was regarding a speech that he ended up giving, got him caught up in actually forced him to leave that 1988 presidential campaign. but also, i think what's damaging for joe biden is this plays into the perception that this speech and actually this policy on the climate change was just checking the box before the debates three weeks from now. get it out of the way, we're not going to put a whole lot of thought and effort into it beyond that. i'm sure his campaign will fight back against that,

yeah, this is kind of, like, for the guy that goes into an office every day -- kind of, like, exactlyuper protective. noah: listen. i like this. it's fashion-forward from my standpoint if you see what's going on in caps, which is always our barometer. you see the contrast on contrast, and it's very popular, so i definitely think the same way here is -- and listen. the license that you get from us affords you stuff that other people can't have. pictures of the stadium, it's all part of our intellectual property, and so we encourage our partners to use that, 'cause that will separate you. lemonis: i could tell the meeting was going really well when noah started offering charlotte licensed images and had all sorts of ideas. but then charlotte wanted to take it one step further and swing for the fences. charlotte: we also wanted to give women the opportunity to show off their team. so this was kind of more of our women's collection, you know, just to make it fun and still girly, but, like... noah: i like it. charlotte: ...showing off your team, you know? i mean, we live in l.a., and every

i kind of felt icky. i trusted this person and i trusted them with a really important person in my study. it's never -- like, we are definitely on the front lines of a lot of sort of systemic problems, right, and we have to be aware of that. i think these systemic problems are big enough that we kind of can't pretend to sit on the sidelines and be objective and say our work is not going to have any effect because it's going to have an effect. i think we should try to do the change that we think needs to be done. >> you know, i think knowing you have a problem, right, is the first step, so matt and i were recently at a data and -- a data datafication and activism workshop and one of the things that the workshop participants did as a group is acknowledge that just by being in that space and doing the work we were doing and putting a public document up online that was the result of our two days worth of conversation that we were, in fact, making ourselves vulnerable, that pewe were puttg ourselves out there

the 1850s is kind of this period where the kindling keeps kind of being added to this bonfire that will finally erupt. so that's kind of the environment he leaves in, and it gets much worse while he's away. ultimately, kansas and the bleeding kansas and the division over that. so he takes his southern trips against the backdrop really of growing national crisis. >> and let's talk about the signs that start appearing, especially in this region that olmsted is visiting where instead of a gone fishing sign, it's a gtt sign. what does gtt stand for? >> right. it's this wonderful phrase that was common in that era and that olmsted, i think, really popularized by writing about it in "the new york times." gtt stood for gone to texas. [laughter] and it coe noted that you -- connoted that you had fled georgia, the carolinas, tennessee, other parts of the south generally because of trouble with the law or your spouse or just couldn't pay your debts, and you would write gtt on the door of your home or fence post, or someone else would put it there after you were gone, and they were off to texas. a

this kind of. front ages between fighting factions and to bring them to the negotiating table to resolve their differences their we understand and of course i will come back to you for more analysis as we get it thank you i'm going to look up the. let's join us and he's a journalist and joins me now also from senator good to have you with us on the program sir now as we've been hearing you know and listening to and getting reaction from the who tees have been targeting the southwest of saudi arabia and as these reports seem to now confirm they've hit a major target it is a significant success for forces and yet there is this threat we've been told and that as many as 200 other targets are being lined up i mean what more can you tell us. many army on the committee. a lot of the called the most all of those these have declared about 6 to 7 months ago that they have 300. targeted saudi arabia in good including vital infrastructure this needed doesn't need to be a fully military target because. they sa

kind of the same thing for harper lee. she was still alive, i didn't get to interview -- >> did you try? >> did i try? yes. i was one of the many reporters who went to meadows only to be turned away by the armed guard who had con spinning ifously taken up his post there. i did get to know friends and family of hers, and that was meaningful and useful. but the coincidence of timing was some of those folks were alarmed by watchman and worried about her in that sense. after she died in 2016, kind of another wave of folks decided to talk to me because they felt the omerta of harper lee ended with her death. and they wanted to talk about their friend and to make sure there was a rich and complicated version of her in the world even if that meant revealing things that might have been embarrassing to her during her lifetime. >> fascinating. and there's a great malcolm quote that you have here about how between the process of reporting and writing is, i think what malcolm calls an abyss. so you're there, you're doing the reporting

in all of those ways that kind of love-hate relationship that you have with the city is not something new. >> talked about being in the streets and yet there's somebody behind you who is bumping you and the risk of cracked on the head by a delivery person is something that, of course, sounds very much like to pedestrian version of the 405. sounds a lot like beverly hills and you have place where is people are being entertained, in meso america people were building ports in central portions of urban settlements and just a central of urban life of palaces and temples and even the names that people had for those places of entertainment are names that carries through through the present in places like the coliseum and it's not just about the future, but it's also about the past and directly resulted in the places that we live in today, but for all of that sense of accommodation that we have in cities and all of the globalized linkages that make it possible to easily navigate our ways through los angeles, london, or tokyo, rome, all of upheld by barter because there was not yet any coined

of opposition of any kind people were killed. as a as a result and when i met him you know there is something about him he's an intelligent man but he's somebody who you know literally has looks at you as if he has an utter contempt for you and for anything that you might think about or want to say and although he used a lot of people from abroad at various times in to help the struggle for independence and there i certainly supported the independence of eritrea and you know the continued existence but you know he really he doesn't rate anybody who isn't an absolute supporter of him personally and the few people who are around him given that. to the people you speak to and many of them who freshly left the country have any hope that there will be some kind of regime change or that eritrea will eventually have a democracy. absolutely every eritrean leaves for that day even those that. say they support the regime leave for the day that change will come air tran's such a small country and everybody. is kind of has got this strong se

politicians we're not dealing with so so so it's up to the democratic and republican party to kind of reinvent themselves and think about how to address these grievances you know i think it's the same in britain a lot of people say oh this referendum was such a disaster i don't think it was a disaster i think bret's it is a disaster but i think the referendum showed that there were immense grievances in british society that the politicians were not addressing and that's good they should be discussed and they should be addressed and that's a healthy thing for democracy i think many of those grievances whether it is in relation to bracks it or in relation to donald trump they were economic in nature and they were related began to globalisation and. i heard you say that they're always incentives for individuals to make stuff more extract extract if if they can get away with it and you'll often mention bill gates where says carlos slim as an example so how and nation state can encourage innovation while controlling the excesses in the era of globalization who can do that latter part of pr