but it is siding on the side of kiner perkins. >> and you are doing a live blog right now, and several people were voting for the retaliation claims, which they have to sort that out, and applying the lawsuit itself, but they have certainly won on the gender discrimination counts that the jury was inclined towards kiner perkins. >> did that surprise you? >> nothing surprises me when it comes to the gender issue. they thought that she was fired for other reasons, which kleiner perkins tried to stress that she was inkcompetent, and the same s other people. they made the case that it was not that she was a woman, but that she did not perform, according to the restrictions that they had. and it was not a reflection of kiner perkin cans, but it shoedd the strange workplace which was not great for them in particular. and shining the light on a big issue, and no matter what happens here, it is going to make people incredibly aware of the people with the genters and a bunch of innovation happening around the globe. >> yes, and we are talking about the broader impact, of how we look at discrimi

and it was not a reflection of kiner perkin cans, but it shoedd the strange workplace which was not great for them in particular. and shining the light on a big issue, and no matter what happens here, it is going to make people incredibly aware of the people with the genters and a bunch of innovation happening around the globe. >> yes, and we are talking about the broader impact, of how we look at discrimination in the workplace, especially in silicon vall valley. >> well, there are some cases that you don't win right away, like race, and 20 years ago, gay people lost on all kinds of things, and they are starting to get marriage this the country. so cases build up or people start to change their behaviors, and maybe adjust their case. so in this case, the broader issue is that the gender discrimination did dominate the case. >> and scott cohn? >> yes, again to qualify, and i think that you have qualified this now, that the claim they are hung up on is the fourth claim of whether or not kleiner perkins retaliated againstle ellen pao for filing the per suit in 2012, and the allegation is th