defense minister says she is convinced that the base does except a comparable alternative to king abdullah of jordan has given his full backing. this phase has been used by u.s. plans flying against i.s.. it has had some international capacity. >> for people watching the story. it is amazing that one is refusing to let the other have access to its own troops. where does this leave relations between germany and turkey? >> germany's foreign minister said on his way to turkey that the relationship has been going to a a rough patch that is certainly the case. there are a whole array o of factorors that account for tt.t. the fact that germany has granted asylum to some people leaving turkey in the wake of the aftermath of the last year's events. turkey's journalist with double nationality, including famous ones who have been detained in turkey. german parliament, condedemnati, the armenian massacre, a whole host of factors. where dodo things go f from her? both sides meet each other, they were at pains to say they want to preserve the relationship but this transfer of forces could be a blow. >> thank you

king abdullah of jordan said it best, world war iii. this is world war iii. i like secretary kelly and we've got to be vigilant but again we have to think outside the box to do those things to prevent terrorist attacks rather than always responding to terrorist attacks. gregg: people have been dwelling on the attack in paris, denise, belgian, great britain, three of them in as many months, germany, we've had our own, orlando, san bernardino, right? >> we sure have. i've advocated better use of what we call open source intelligence. let me tell you what i'm talking about. when our intelligence authorities begin to look at suspects many of times logo on google. google only gives you so much information. it doesn't give you a deep dive. as their more and more data, more and more information today it's tougher and tougher to find the abrasion you need. there are more gated search engines out there. i use one back in 2012 revealed that the iranians were on the ground in north korea helping them with the ballistic missile and nuclear test. that's what i'm talking.

at the same time, jordan and you can wait who are also usually allies of saudi saudi arabia have not immediately signed on and the king of jordan, abdullah is flying to you can wait tomorrow to discuss the situation, so there could be an oping there to kind of back down from this. so there is another group of analysts who say you know, let's not panic. this probably will, someone will find a way for everyone to climb down. >> anne, thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> rose: we'll be right back, stay with us. >> patrick collison is here, the c.e.o. of stripe. they founded the company in 2011 to provide a solution for businesses to process and accept online payment. today its mission is to quote grow the gdp of the internet with operations in 25 countries, stripe is valued at 9.2 billion dollars, nearly doubling since 2015. forbs notes that stripe's success at making digital payments easy to process is only a step towards its larger ambition of becoming the-- new forms of commerce are created. i'm pleased to have patrick collison at this table for the first time, welcome. >> charlie, thank you for having me. >> rose: how old

of jordan. the people of egypt, supporting the king abdullah the second.t right. what this person is doing, choices they are making and informs authorities. and that's what we have to reestablish. to see something, say something. again, was broken under the last administration. we have to rebuild it. we have to make those connections and do the kinds of things the nypd did, which is create amazing undercover intelligence capacity to find those people before they build the bomb. before they buy that kitchen knife and kill innocent women and children. brian: some of the things that ray kelly was doing with mike bloomberg as mayor, kicked off the fbi because they got ahead of the fbi in many cases because they wanted to take things into their own hands which would bring up another issue. now yesterday on msnbc, they believe that even this conversation goes too far that maybe we are paying too much attention to terror attacks. let's take a listen. >> go ahead. >> have analyzed these incidents post facto as well as during as you have so many times with me and o

king abdullah in jordan is committed. i believe many other nations in the middle east an africa because of trump's leadership will be. but paris, just about all of the leaders in europe are not. maybe teresa may is moving in that direction. her rhetoric certainly has changed. we'll see if her policies and actions change also. >> there's something else going on for her. there's an election on thursday. because of the terror attacks over the weekend, there was a loose agreement that apparently didn't hold very long about campaigning and stopping that while they mourn the dead and the injured and support those who are injured an hospitalized. but the politics continue on. there were questions about whether that rhetoric is, in fact, coming, as some are calling it from teresa may and not really policy or action. we saw tony blair battle this. this has been going on for many, many years. i have heard you describe it. it's like an open door policy without a whole lot of vetting going on. that's certainly a huge conversation that's happening in this country. are you at all concerned that isis is moving into so many country,