so you say what turned you away from was there he's of children attacks and so you had back to kingdon to prevent terrorists from radicalizing other young people i thought ok it wasn't the kind of group that's easy to leave i mean how difficult was it for you to get out of afghanistan. it's not i mean there's many groups that are not easy to leave you have to be very lucky to be able to you know sometimes turn your back on them but when you know the people that i met from here in the u.k. and. i realize and they realize that you know they have now they do come into this using young children to become suicide bombers is not part of a i was old enough i wasn't naive you know as a child or young person i was old enough to challenge the ideology that's wrong but then i was lucky to be able to you know step away and the middle of the night but not many people have had that luck and it's not easy to leave those those kind of networks you know we've seen a lot changed since two thousand and two since when i went you know they've become a lot more violent and a lot more driven to once they've