in little kingman, kansas. was dead, her house burned around her and a husband and two little boys were just beginning to understand what had happened to them. the cannot believe it stage just like siblings, kathleen and rich. >> like i believed somehow it wasn't true. you plea with god or you just want a miracle to happen. >> no miracles to be had. that might have been the end of it really, an awful tragedy, but these things do happen and for all but loved ones are soon forgotten by the rest of the world. except those volunteer firemen weren't quite sure what they were dealing with. so they took the step and called in the state fire marl, the atf, the bureau of alcohol, tobacco and firearms. >> we get a lot more training and exposure to the scientific side of things. >> that morning, atf agent doug monty showed up to have a look around. >> if you look at it from the front of the house, all you really noticed was the fact that part of the roof had collapsed as you made your way around back, there was very, very