commissioner kingsley: that makes sense. president marshall: -- >> if the board agrees to have a joint combhigs meeting, then we can have a broad-based discussion having the two commissions together. commissioner kingsley: very good. commissioner hammer: are you in support of that? president marshall: personally, i want the commission to look at everything, decide what it wants to do. i don't want to single one item out at this point and say let's do this or do that. i personally don't. i want to look at everything and say where do we want to go, and if takes an extra week. i understand what you are saying. i want -- i want to do this right. that's my personal preference. but, you know, that's fine. commissioner hammer: it's not an action item, but i would like the people to weigh in. commission -- >> he agree with the president that we shouldn't react to every newspaper item. sometimes it becomes the issue of the day. but i do agree this is a pretty important issue, and sometimes you get a very important issue that deals wi

. >> i would second commissioner kingsley's idea that i'm not sure we have to time out the entire day. i think a chunk of that, i think it would be helpful for him to be with us. he is the person who runs the department on a daily basis, and we are here both to give guidance, but also to support his efforts, so i think it would be good to have a chunk of time where he candidly tells us what his priorities are so we can give direction and also listen for his concerns, so i think it is important that he be there for part of it. >> do we want to aim for when we circulate a calendar to the lieutenant in terms of when we are available, a date that we are available? do we want to do this, aim for a particular month? >> i think we should aim for six months. sometime in september. not on wednesday. i'm assuming on a regular day, saturday morning is probably going to be it. >> two ideas to kick around for a moment in terms of the agenda or are we going to talk about -- >> any other item. we had three. >> here is what i would suggest, and i would like to get other comments in. the dna issue, le

commissioner kingsley: i will explain. commissioner dejesus and i talked with the offices and they gave us an additional arm for commissioner reilly who has worked hard on our docket of cases. basically, weigh want you to review these options and vote on which one you prefer. so for the legal assistance option, and of course, you can vote for neither of them, but this is the proposal here. for the legal assistant, the salary is about the same as the court clerk, so the salary doesn't make much of a difference. the experience this person would have is they have parallel studies, the associates degree, with six months work in a legal setting. their skill they generally have, or tracking system for adjusting claims, cornedse and communicates with attorneys, they analyze depositions, and briefs, affidavits, they conduct legal research, they help with legal research and staff and legislation. that's the qualification for legal assistant. question? president marshall: you can keep reading, but i just want the recommendation. >>

carol kingsley, who was supported unanimously, which is pretty impressive, on the police commission. she will be serving as the newest police commissioner. i'm very enthusiastic. the board of supervisors seems to share that. well, air and good lucome and g. not the easiest of commissions, but incredibly important. we went through a lot of presiresidents. i'm appreciative of her willingness to serve. the rent board. do not screw up something that is working. we had a debate on a solution to a mysterious problem. we do not have a problem because we have a balanced rent board. people that want to obtain a strong relationship and inappropriate one. as a consequence, i felt like i did not need to reappoint new folks. felt like i could reappoint the existing folks. they're doing a great job. thank you for your willingness to continue your service. i do not know why -- all of you were enthusiastic, too, when i called you. i thought maybe one or two of you wanted to take a vacation from the service. i am grateful that you were willing. i am also grateful the retirement board is getting a lot

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commissioner kingsley: present. president marshall: this is the regular meeting of the san francisco police commission, wednesday august 18, 2010. would you please call item 1? >> item 1 is approval of the minutes from the regular meetings of april 28, 2010, and may 5, 2010. president marshall: those minutes are in your packet. if there are no changes, i will take the motion for approval. without objection, so ordered. item two, please. >> item 2 is the consent calendar, under which we have four items. the second quarter status summary report of officer shooting investigations, the second quarter for ron discharge review board findings, the quarterly report by the department and office of citizen complaints regarding policy proposals, and the office of citizen complaints monthly comprehensive statistical port january through july 2010 and january through july 2009. president marshall: some of these are carryovers from our last meeting. most of them are stand alone items. as the lieutenant and i went to the agenda, w

before we move the agenda, we must introduce our new commissioners, commissioner carol kingsley. you are the first commissioner to get a hand. i do not know if they knew you. just say a little bit about yourself and what you do in your other life now you have a second life on wednesday night. grab the mic there. cp,,ossopm commissioner kingley: i mediate business disputes as a business lawyer. i am a longtime resident of san francisco. i have been here over 30 years and have raised my son in sentences go. he is going off to college. i love the city and am pleased to be here to serve san francisco and work with the police department, the other police commissioners, and the office of citizen complaints. >> welcome. president marshall: we have a full agenda tonight. we may be here when you are on -- when you are all gone in bed. but might still be here. we are taking an item out of order. the agenda says there is a special order right at the top. we are going to continue the call of item number four. >> thank you. before i proceed, let me introduce the assistant chief of police and

. >> my name is carol kingsley. i have lived in san francisco for over 30 years, raised my kids here, i am an attorney. i spend most of my professional life doing business transactions. over the last seven years, working independently as a mediator. thank you for hosting this meeting tonight. it is a pleasure to be with you. >> with that, could you please call item no. 1? >> reports to the commission under which item 1a is the chief report,, 1b the occ director's report. >> good evening, chief. >> good evening, mr. president, members of the occ. it is a pleasure to be here today. we have a couple of autumn that i want to cover in our report before we turn it over to capt. garrity. he will go over a state of the union for the tenderloin. on crime numbers, we continue to be around the 10% crime reduction. we had a very good production last week. and other crimes went down 17% in the last four weeks. property crime was down 19%. basically, what we are talking about today, we are down to 280 crimes compared to last year

madam clerk: item 41, appointing carol kingsley to the san francisco police commission. president chiu: colleagues, same call? this item is passed. next two items. madam clerk: item 42, emotional quarter raincoat voters of an ordinance, and item 43, establishing the community policing policy. supervisor mirkarimiñ in implementing what i think is a community policing strategy that is often well talked about but not well implemented. you asked a hundred people in this room what you think community policing is and you'll get a hundred different answers. there's nothing institutionalized. when you look at the department orders of the san francisco police department, there is very little that describes anything except references that were memorialized back in 1994. community policing has involved considerably as we have learned from cities like new york, boston, chicago, seattle, many others. and overed years we've addressed the problems that have been spot fires and of chronic distress throughout many of our districts and throughout the city to be able to require that the po

commissioner kingsley: there are two items. i think we're all -- it seems like we're in agreement in terms of discussing at another meeting the priority of addressing the issue that chief gas gone raised in connection with the parties and the private parties and the hole in the regular regulations as to how to address outside of those clubs, how to keep the public safe. that's a priority we're going to want to discuss. another priority would be for us to discuss the backlog of disciplinary cases most efficiently. so i would propose or make a motion that we discuss these two priorities. at another meeting as soon as possible. commissioner hammer: i would second that. >> i would want clarity. we have been discussing a backlog. we put rules and procedures in place that shortened the hearings and stuff and we've also helped with these digests that will be delivered and we're getting them monthly. so i would like to know what you mean when you say -- >> i understand, commissioner. ix cues me -- excuse me, but i haven't been part of

commissioner kingsley mentioned the idea of perhaps holding a second hearing in september. but the cases we have, which need attention -- for me, that as a good idea, but i think it would be helpful first to talk about september and then move forward. that was commissioned air marshal's idea, but it. >> you have six, 12, 21, 24 things on here. let me know how you want to proceed. wiggling down, prioritizing? >> just a question for a couple of us that may be new on the commission and may not understand how this priority list came about. i gather that except for the three new items on the fact that the rest of it was prioritized by the commission had a particular date, and i'm wondering if that is true, if that is accurate. >> we did do a, b, and c. maybe the attendant can help me here. the items we talked about last week i believe we put at the end of the list. >> that is correct, commissioner. some of the items that were mentioned last week wore on this list already. >> ok, so if they were there, they have been prioritized. >> so for example, the idea of a commission retrea