. >> thank you, commissioner kingsley?>> commissioner kingsley: chief, on following up what commissioner marshall said, we said every week and listened to the chief provide us with statistics and mostly they're a measuring tool of where we were last year at the same time and we're measuring ourselves against ourselves historically. is there periodically a source of informations9Ñm#Ñ that you w able to add to that report to give us a bit of a picture of where san francisco falls in comparison to other cities throughout the country of similar demographics. is there an easy place to get that information? >> oh, sure. commissioner kingsley: whatever you feel is appropriate in terms of timing but if periodically we can get that comparison, i think that will give us a large irperspective on where we sit. >> sure, i'm happy to do that. i can assure you are we're a lot closer to the top ten safest than that list you have. >> very good. any other questions for the chief? >> i want to thank the chief foyer meeting with the three cap

president mazzucco: commissioner kingsley. commissioner kingsley: thank you, commissioner chan for bringing this up. chief, sir, you did bring this to our attention, your plans to rework a general order and prepare a new one that addresses these issues. was it to prepare a new one? >> there is no general -- this will be the first one in the history of the police department. commissioner kingsley: thank you for clarifying that. as i have been looking at this issue in general, it's both from the angle of community policing which is more of a focus of the chief of police interacting with the community in that direction, but also i think with the advent of the community boards fairly recently, the other way around, too, vehicles for the community to gather at a grassroots effort and bring their input and ideas in energizing them so that that input is in there as well so that both parts are there >> and we've discussed this before and have a great deal of experience doing both of those and have been quite successful at doing it. i

president mazzucco: commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i would be happy to join you if you wish that. so putting that out there for everybody involved. >> thank you. >> next week is here on a wednesday or englecide? president mazzucco: it's here next week. >> you have a meeting every wednesday? englecide is somewhere totally different. ok. president mazzucco: any further public comment. public comment is now closed. on those items. please call line item number four please. >> discussion of possible action to sustain or not sustain disciplinary charges filed against patrol special officer robert burns, file number alwco9220, alwc10094 and alcc10-233 and decide if toll z is necessary. president mazzucco: good evening, counsel. >> ashley ward appearing on behalf for the san francisco police department. president mazzucco: counsel, do you see mr. burns other his counsel? >> he's representing himself. president mazzucco: officer burns, please come forward. dr. marshall, this is your matter. i will turn the mic over to yo

kingsley would like to address you. >> thank you for your comments. do you have that in writing, the statistics went by rather quickly for me. i would like to have a hard copy of that if you could give me that. >> i will give you a copy. matter of fact i have it here and tim can make some copies for you, ok. commissioner slaughter: thank you, sir. >> mr. delanus, we've been discussing this issue the last three months if we're not mistaken, there is a concern about staffing and hiring and about the drop program and about the number of officers that are eligible to retire today. what is that number, 700? >> we have 562 that are eligible to go into the drop program which means that's 562 people with either more than 25 years over the age of 50. we have over 320 officers with more than 30 years. but with the drop program ending, they're all going into the drop effective in the next week. >> what do you recommend the solution for this problem be? what would be your recommendation on behalf of the police officers recommendation? >> it would be a task force

. >> thank you, commissioner kingsley?>> commissioner kingsley: chief, on following up what commissioner marshall said, we said every week and listened to the chief provide us with statistics and mostly they're a measuring tool of where we were last year at the same time and we're measuring ourselves against ourselves historically. is there periodically a source of informations9Ñm#Ñ that you w able to add to that report to give us a bit of a picture of where san francisco falls in comparison to other cities throughout the country of similar demographics. is there an easy place to get that information? >> oh, sure. commissioner kingsley: whatever you feel is appropriate in terms

rugby ball cut gets underway in new zealand as russian made big baby in the competition and coach kingsley jones knows he's got plenty of work ahead of him. it's a massive challenge you know always like challenges in my life. let me sort of read the underdog if you like and i'm sure we are underdogs of course but. there's a massive potential here and i think the rugby world cup is ninety nine days away. there's room for improvement a lot of improvement in every department in one thousand nine hundred some of the teams in the rugby world cup were improved so much more so we're going to train catch up groaned jones was coach going to sail while he played for the welsh national team has gone back to his roots to bring in some good bits fitness coaches around to try and make the russians competitive when they play their first match of the tournament because if you are seen on september the fifteenth today was basically to get a profile of each player to see you off his strengths or weaknesses were strengths already for speed and influence so now in the next hundred days we can focus on certain

. >> commissioner kingsley. >> happy anniversary. >> the community policing, did i understand it correctly that that is being coupled with another schedule which is a tuesday at center something that will occur every week. >> there will be weekly meetings on the drafting of the community policing general order and then there is weekly meetings on the drafting of the career development. there are several channel orders not connected to one another. >> this is happening every week at what time and place. >> i don't know if this is a set date but i believe that community policing is on mondays and i want to say this is at 10:00 at the police academy but i can confirm that for you. >> was involved? >> whoever would like to be. there are various members of the department and the community. they will be coordinating committee meetings. the commissioner asked that one of the meetings is in chinatown. whatever means we can get in between now and september, i will be going out starting in july to meet with the rank-and- file. there will be no order without representation in the assembly. >> does th

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it follows commissioner kingsley pose a question. i would like to refer back to the other questions. my question specifically is, the first part is for chief suhr. is there anything in the transition into a resolution, irresolution that might reflect these publicly accepted 2002 mou's, that you anticipate would be a significant issue, or maybe that the police commissioner has more experience than i have would be an obstacle to doing that conceptually. i know we don't have a resolution in front of us. >> the police department does not to resolution. i am not in the resolution business. i don't see how -- like what i did with the unit order, my desire was to incorporate everything as close as possible to closing the gaps between 8.10, the 2002 mou, and the 20 -- and a 2007 memo you. depending on whoever would be in that business of creating the resolution, that would be on them. >> the second part of that, mr. crew, you mentioned the portland resolution did not allow for any deputization. i am wondering if a resolution -- with that pre

i would like to turn it over to commissioner kingsley. >> thank you. i would like to echo our president's thanks to everybody involved in this. progress is impressive. and it's great progress. so thank you for reporting on that. a couple of questions regarding the curriculum. you indicated a general statistic of one out of four arrests generally involve mental illness, mental health issue. in developing this curriculum around these serenbe hambers, are they in any way -- were they formulated around specific statistics around -- do we have specific statistics around suicides, these various genres, ha louis nation -- hallucination behavior, trauma? >> one thing to be clear, they're not necessarily arrests, they're contacts. i need to make that clear. so basically they are encounters. quite frequently law enforcement is the first responder. sometimes it may be the person themselves contacting law enforcement. it might be somebody else being brought to their attention. the person standing screaming on host street, you're going to get four 911 calls. in ter

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commissioner kingsley: perfect. that's great. thank you. president mazzucco: commissioner chan. commissioner chan: thank you for the update. i appreciate you're ahead of the game and working on this. it's wonderful. the september date, what specifically was that for, i missed it. >> to present a draft to this commission for adoption. commissioner chan: great. >> for public comment and obviously since it's a draft, however long it takes after september 15 being at this commission, that's how long it will take until we can make it department policy. commissioner chan: great. that sounds like a better process than having a commission hearing on this because it involves the community in a more thorough way. i would suggest that maybe one or two commissioners participate in this, as these forums are happening throughout the summer, try to attend them and if we can rotate and have at least one commissioner or two commissioners at each of these forums so we're engaged and hear the feedback, too with, and it's not being reported back thousand. president mazzucco: i agree. it's a good id

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commissioner chan: present commissioner kingsley: present. commissioner slaughter: here. >> michael sweet? >> here. >> commissioner chung? >> here. >> commissioner lee? commissioner davis? >> here. >> commissioner peer? commissioner ruiz? also joining us this evening, we have theresa sparks, the human rights commission, gregory suhr, zoey polk from human rights commission. >> thank you, and welcome to the regularly scheduled meeting of the san francisco police commission for wednesday, may 18, 2011. tonight is a special meeting. it is a first. it is a joint meeting between the police commission and the human rights commission. it is a really big event to have them come together. they will discuss an important issue that we will discuss this evening. before we move to the regular agenda, i would like to take this opportunity, in light of the fact that this is a police commission hearing, we have had a development in the police department this week, the appointment of a new command staff. i spoke to mr. sweet. he will allow chief suhr to start