commissioner kingsley? >> commissioner kingsley: chief, thanks you very much for your report and appreciate you giving us a head's up on things that are coming about in the future in the community. also good news on the budget front that you got that support from the department as a whole and congratulations on that leadership, it's terrific. i'm wondering if that will support the possibility of police academy training in the fall. you'd given some guarded, optimistic reporting that may be a possibility. does this make it more of a probability? >> yes, apparently conversations that have happened at this panel over time, discussions with the p.o.a., and actually the foresightedness of the board of supervisors, they put $3 million back into the police department budget in the spring. by putting it into the budget later in the year, we can basically get an academy class, a full academy class, first one since 2009 at a discount provided we don't have some other calamity occur in this tepid recovery of ours. so

commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i think that sounds like a terrific topic we need to address, officers' need and we would be supportive in that in following up, though, along the same lines, i'd like the commission to address our priorities, once again, and see how we want to finish the year and go into the next year in terms of our evaluation last october at our retreat, and we did indicate that we were going to do this a few weeks ago but were going to postpone it until people were finished with vacations and able to focus and i'm wondering since most of us have probably given lieutenant falvey our vacation schedules, lieutenant falvey, do you have a date that this item would be -- that it would be good to discuss the item of our priorities and actions going forward in terms of attendance? >> i believe august 10. i don't think anyone here is going to be out. are you? commissioner kingsley: i'll be here. >> the 24th and 31st of august, the city hall staff are going to be changing the sound sy

. >> commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: i don't feel strongly about this but would urge the commission to get back on its may annual election. and i'm happy to -- personally, i'm happy to keep our present officers in place until next may, if others feel we should have a -- an election at this point, i'm fine with that, too, but would like to see when may of 2012 rolls around that we get back on to, you know, the schedule that's set by our rules, that's all. president mazzucco: commissioners? >> i feel the same way as commissioner kingsley. you know, president mazzucco and vice president marshall have served us, in my view, very well in a very tumultuous and time over the past few months and really hit the ground running but if people think we need to have an election, and don't think there's a magic to may but before i joined the commission there were various reasons there was an election prior to that time i don't feel strongly and people want to do some in the coming weeks or wait until next may, th

. >> commissioner kingsley. >> happy anniversary. >> the community policing, did i understand it correctly that that is being coupled with another schedule which is a tuesday at center something that will occur every week. >> there will be weekly meetings on the drafting of the community policing general order and then there is weekly meetings on the drafting of the career development. there are several channel orders not connected to one another. >> this is happening every week at what time and place. >> i don't know if this is a set date but i believe that community policing is on mondays and i want to say this is at 10:00 at the police academy but i can confirm that for you. >> was involved? >> whoever would like to be. there are various members of the department and the community. they will be coordinating committee meetings. the commissioner asked that one of the meetings is in chinatown. whatever means we can get in between now and september, i will be going out starting in july to meet with the rank-and- file. there will be no order without representation in the assembly. >> does th

. >> commissioner carol kingsley? >> present. >> commissioner james slaughter? >> here. >> commissioner julius turman? >> here. >> we have a quorum of commissioners and also joyce hicks of the office of citizens complaints and the chief of police. >> thank you, lieutenant falvey. welcome, ladies and gentlemen, to the july 13, 2011 police commission hearing. ladies and gentlemen, tonight is what we call our discipline night so we have some closed matters, disciplinary hearings which by law have to be held in closed session so we have a very light agenda before that so we now move to line item number one which is general public comment. >> item number one, general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on tonight's agenda but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not individual commissioners or department or o.c.c. personnel. under police commission rules of order, during public comment, neither police o

commissioner kingsley -- excuse. commissioner turman: present. >> mr. president, you have a quorum. president mazzucco: ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the wednesday, june 29, a commission meeting. we have had a bit of a hiatus with monthly meetings during the police chief selection process. what we normally do is give the commissioners an opportunity to introduce themselves and tell the audience what they do on their day jobs. we will do that. this is the best part of being on the commission, when we to get out to the community, i hear what they have to say about their district station, there district capt.. it is a good opportunity to give a feel for what is going on. without further ado, i will start with -- we will start with commissioner chan. commissioner chan: hi, there. thank you up for having us tonight. a special thank you for captain mahoney. my day job is in a staff attorney at the asian law caucus. i focus on helping juveniles in the system with navigating language barriers, also human- rights issues. i am happy to be here. >> dr. joe marshall, and i have been on the c

. >> commissioner carol kingsley?present. >> commissioner james slaughter. >> here. >> commissioner julius terman. >> here. >> you have a quorum and joyce hicks at the o.c.c. and commander tim tomioka. >> thank you very much. ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the wednesday, july 6 san francisco police commission meeting. ened we'll have commander tomiaoka sit with us until the chief arrives. dr. marshall is en route. tonight's calendar, we have a lot of closed session matters we'll be dealing with in closed session at the close of the calendar. they're disciplinary matters. so we'll start with what we need to do at the beginning which is line item number 1 >> the approval of minutes, an action item for the following meetings, june 1, 8, 15th, and 22nd of 2011. >> thank you, lieutenant. commissioners, you have those minutes in your packet with the caveat we had a discussion regarding the fact these commission meetings are recorded and the best record of these meetings will be the recorded version as opposed to the minut

commissioner kingsley: that's great. appreciate that. president mazzucco: what date do you think we should schedule this? commissioner chan, we were thinking maybe on the 24th -- excuse me. >> 24th of august? president mazzucco: no. >> what time are you talking about? commissioner chan: i think it's going to be -- >> commissioner turman: i'd like to get a priority list done first. because, you know, the whole thing is to figure out what we're going to do and if we keep usurping, then it become as moot point. so i just -- you know, let's decide kind of what we're going to do before we schedule it. that would be my concern, trying to follow protocol. commissioner chan: i have a suggestion because i knew that would come up and makes sense to organize our priorities. and knowing the way c.i.t. worked and the way other things worked is that we should first get a presentation from the department, not a long one but a short one, where are we, how much staff do we have, what are the services, it can be a short presentation and after that we can