kinsey say? again, he took issue with an expert coming in and trying to tell you that he can determine the location or the height of the shooter in this manner. he told you the cardboard that cannot be relied upon. while he agreed with the angle on the doc house, he showed you how changing the aspect of the shooter could easily fit with alec. and that it is too far and way out over her skis that you can assert that the shooter had to be 5'2." that's not what you can do. dr. kinsey is a crime scene analyst. how many crime scenes did he do? thousands of pieces of evidence. real world stuff. that's what he comes and talks about. you simply cannot make those determinations in a real world environment to come in here and tell you from that sort of thing the shooter had to be a particular height. you just can't do it. you can't do it. i submit to you that dr. kinsey know what's he's talking about and dr. kinsey has the years of experience in real world applications of crime scenes to make those judgmen

kinsey out. are you coming back? kinsey out. are you going to be here? i'm going be yes.'m going to get to see you in the flesh again. that's very, very exciting news. know. i agree. exciting news. i know. i agree. i it's . been big hit. i think it's. been a big hit. big hit lady. see, what's what's your dog's name? her name ? your dog's name? her name? aurora oh, she's beautiful . aurora oh, she's beautiful. absolutely beautiful . she's a absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy- absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy. she's a absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy- she's a puppy- l absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy. she's a puppy. i call and tell her and you can't you can't . but very delighted to have aurora alongside lady colin gavlak kinsey schofield by robust lines this week. thank you both so much. we'll speak very soon but coming up on, what the government has dubbed green . is it wrong to punish households just for using gas as we continue this deranged march today ? zero. that's the big today? zero. that's the big debate soon as my superstore panel returned. but first, a

kinsey out. are you coming back? kinsey out. are you going to be here? i'm going be yes.l, i'm going to get to see you in the flesh again. that's very, very exciting news. i know. i agree. i it's. been hit. i think it's. been a big hit. big hit lady. see, what's what's your dog's name? her name ? your dog's name? her name? aurora oh, she's beautiful . aurora oh, she's beautiful. absolutely beautiful . she's a absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy- absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy. she's a absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy- she's a puppy- l absolutely beautiful. she's a puppy. she's a puppy. i call and tell her and you can't you can't . but very delighted to have aurora alongside lady colin gavlak kinsey schofield by robust lines this week. thank you both so much. we'll speak very soon but coming up on, what the government has dubbed green . is it wrong to punish households just for using gas as we continue this deranged march today ? zero. that's the big today? zero. that's the big debate soon as my superstore panel returned. but first, as a new tory war erupts, who is

hi, kinsey . mark that tie pond. hi, kinsey. mark that tie is a lot .tie it requires some shades. i got very excited. i thought i had elton john on the show for a second, but we've got the far more gorgeous. kinsey schofield, who boasts her own hair. can we talk about? kinsey schofield, who boasts her own hair. can we talk about ? the own hair. can we talk about? the duke and duchess of sussex and that coronation scene ? well that coronation scene? well calling them the duke and duchess of hash over here because we were here. you know, they're there talking a lot about drug use and work concerned about how they're how they got it. and how at least prince harry got his visa. but, yeah, there's a story circulated onune yeah, there's a story circulated online that the duke and online now that the duke and duchess of sussex want a special family . they would like family moment. they would like to appear on the balcony alongside charles queen consort camilla prince william and catherine the princess of. now, as you can imagine , royal as you can imagine, roy

hi, kinsey . mark that tie pond. hi, kinsey. mark that tie is a lot .that tie it requires some shades. i got very excited. i thought i had elton john on the show for a second, but we've got the far more gorgeous. kinsey schofield, who boasts her own hair. can we talk about? kinsey schofield, who boasts her own hair. can we talk about ? the own hair. can we talk about? the duke and duchess of sussex and that coronation scene ? well that coronation scene? well calling them the duke and duchess of hash over here because we were here. you know, they're there talking a lot about drug use and work concerned about how they're how they got it. and how at least prince harry got his visa. but, yeah, there's a story circulated onune yeah, there's a story circulated online that the duke and online now that the duke and duchess of sussex want a special family . they would like family moment. they would like to appear on the balcony alongside charles queen consort camilla prince william and catherine the princess of. now, as you can imagine , royal as you can imagine

hi, kinsey . kinsey schofield. hi, kinsey.y , you know, a nice sunny laundry, you know, a nice sunny meadow . his fiancee laundry, you know, a nice sunny meadow. his fiancee is a laundry, you know, a nice sunny meadow . his fiancee is a lucky meadow. his fiancee is a lucky lady now , can we talk about the lady now, can we talk about the duke and duchess of sussex who are going to who are going to enjoy some at the oscars, but possibly not for the right reasons ? that's right. the new reasons? that's right. the new york post is reporting that harry and meghan might be on the receiving end of some comedy at this oscar ceremony . receiving end of some comedy at this oscar ceremony. pr receiving end of some comedy at this oscar ceremony . pr experts this oscar ceremony. pr experts tell the paper that recent roast by south and chris rock have really opened up the floodgates now. host kimmel over the last few months, we've seen him be absolute lutely ruthless to the duke and duchess of sussex. so all eyes tomorrow night will be all

hi, kinsey . kinsey schofield. hi, kinsey.esh laundry , you know, a nice sunny laundry, you know, a nice sunny meadow . his fiancee laundry, you know, a nice sunny meadow. his fiancee is a laundry, you know, a nice sunny meadow . his fiancee is a lucky meadow. his fiancee is a lucky lady now , can we talk about the lady now, can we talk about the duke and duchess of sussex who are going to who are going to enjoy some at the oscars, but possibly not for the right reasons .7 that's right. the new reasons? that's right. the new york post is reporting that harry and meghan might be on the receiving end of some comedy at this oscar ceremony . receiving end of some comedy at this oscar ceremony. pr receiving end of some comedy at this oscar ceremony . pr experts this oscar ceremony. pr experts tell the paper that recent roast by south and chris rock have really opened up the floodgates now. host kimmel over the last few months, we've seen him be absolute lutely ruthless to the duke and duchess of sussex. so all eyes tomorrow night w

look, thank you very much, kinsey . fantastic stuff as ever kinsey. fantastic stuff as ever was.great stuff right schofield. great stuff right now. coming up, i will speak to the school chaplain sat is saying that extreme lgbt ideology should be respectfully . i mean, you guys that is pretty maritime. the reverend dr. bernard randall shares his story and that is soon. but also my superstar panel debate whether rishi sunak ban on illegal migrants is a national necessity and whether it goes far enough . you will not want to far enough. you will not want to miss that . it's 10 pm. on patrick christys east on tonight's after gary lineker's egregious bob on the government's policy. it sounds like the bashing corporation are sticking by their man. but also ask if match of the day host gary lineker was right to tweet his criticism of the government policy . i think it's good that policy. i think it's good that he should speak out , but should he should speak out, but should the bbc's virtue signaller in chief face the sack. standing up for party and ordinary brits across country. tory m

look, thank you very much, kinsey . fantastic stuff as ever kinsey. fantastic stuff as ever was.eld . great stuff right schofield. great stuff right now. coming up, i will speak to the school chaplain sat is saying that extreme lgbt ideology should be respectfully . i mean, you guys that is pretty maritime. the reverend dr. bernard randall shares his story and that is soon. but also my superstar panel debate whether rishi sunak ban on illegal migrants is a national necessity and whether it goes far enough . you will not want to far enough. you will not want to miss that . it's 10 pm. on patrick christys east on tonight's after gary lineker's egregious bob on the government's policy. it sounds like the bashing corporation are sticking by their man. but also ask if match of the day host gary lineker was right to tweet his criticism of the government policy . i think it's good that policy. i think it's good that he should speak out , but should he should speak out, but should the bbc's virtue signaller in chief face the sack. standing up for party and ordinary brits across country.

old kinsey , prince schofield. old kinsey, prince harry.sad. tell me more , mark. pretty sad. tell me more, mark. itook pretty sad. tell me more, mark. i took all of these notes for you as i watched prince harry do this live q&a with a doctor who he's a toxic trauma expert dr. mackay . he said that it was mackay. he said that it was a great weight off of his shoulders when he left the royal family although he kept that title so , did his wife. he also title so, did his wife. he also said of his critics, the more they criticise, the more feels they criticise, the more feels the need to share mark. so we better prepare for. and then he said that his therapist once said that his therapist once said him we're dealing with 12 year old harry here during one of his sessions so , you know, he of his sessions so, you know, he also says he has ptsd talked about how both him and princess never really felt like they belonged within the royal fold . belonged within the royal fold. you've got a great video i'm told when he discusses afghanistan . you kno

old kinsey , prince schofield. old kinsey, prince harry.sad. tell me more , mark. pretty sad. tell me more, mark. itook pretty sad. tell me more, mark. i took all of these notes for you as i watched prince harry do this live q&a with a doctor who he's a toxic trauma expert dr. mackay . he said that it was mackay. he said that it was a great weight off of his shoulders when he left the royal family although he kept that title so , did his wife. he also title so, did his wife. he also said of his critics, the more they criticise, the more feels they criticise, the more feels the need to share mark. so we better prepare for. and then he said that his therapist once said that his therapist once said him we're dealing with 12 year old harry here during one of his sessions so , you know, he of his sessions so, you know, he also says he has ptsd talked about how both him and princess never really felt like they belonged within the royal fold . belonged within the royal fold. you've got a great video i'm told when he discusses afghanistan . you kno

don't forget kinsey time. can't wait for that . we've got a can't wait for that. we've got a busy hour to come. we've our best till last it ain't my take it . ten striking passport it. ten striking passport workers are planning to ruin the great british summer. my reaction you won't want to miss it . it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark tonight in my take it ten striking passport workers are planning to ruin the great british summer holiday. my reaction we'll tomorrow's sunday papers right until 11 with the brilliant journalists across the clock and my fantastic panel lots to get through but it's the great british summer holiday next after the headlines with tatiana sanchez . mark thank you tatiana sanchez. mark thank you very much and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. the home secretary has defended the government's plan to send illegal migrants to rwanda to suella braverman is in the rwandan capital, kigali , where rwandan capital, kigali, where she's been given a tour of housing site that

don't forget kinsey time.ait for that . we've got a can't wait for that. we've got a busy hour to come. we've our best till last it ain't my take it . ten striking passport it. ten striking passport workers are planning to ruin the great british summer. my reaction you won't want to miss it . it's 10:00 it's10:00 and this is mark tonight in my take it ten striking passport workers are planning to ruin the great british summer holiday. my reaction we'll tomorrow's sunday papers right until 11 with the brilliant journalists across the clock and my fantastic panel lots to get through but it's the great british summer holiday next after the headlines with tatiana sanchez . mark thank you tatiana sanchez. mark thank you very much and good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. the home secretary has defended the government's plan to send illegal migrants to rwanda to suella braverman is in the rwandan capital, kigali , where rwandan capital, kigali, where she's been given a tour of housing site that will pr

kinsey, i came over here. documentary last night about the whale that was in that film, free willy. oh, yeah ? and what free willy. oh, yeah? and what was the documentary thing? he fish. what's it not? blackfish you don't ever mind as you were just the whales real name, whatever that is. kikau. right. okay absolutely ghastly . take okay absolutely ghastly. take these magnificent creatures that kinsey was looking at and then capturing them and holding them in captivity . the irony about in captivity. the irony about the free willy film is, of course, that the willy he's not called willy is not free, man. i great film, though . anyway, stay great film, though. anyway, stay with us. we're discussing why plans to increase the state pension age have been slashed, perhaps on the state. what's been going in france. freddie been going on in france. freddie grey emma burnell having grey and emma burnell having their . next welcome back. 827 we're going to bnng welcome back. 827 we're going to bring you up to date with

good morning to you, kinsey. i mean, clearly , gwyneth kinsey. version of events and she is countersue ing him. but, you know, quite shocking to hear all the details of this and the doctor claiming that he was doctor claiming that he he was left unconscious she stayed left unconscious and she stayed away right. but also, gwen says away. right. but also, gwen says that it's the opposite that happened and her attorney says in court that her children can testify that when she came down and they met up and they asked her what happened, they say they'd never seen her so mad . they'd never seen her so mad. when they asked her what happened, she said that i'm not going to exact words. going to use the exact words. this morning tv. this is this is morning tv. this is a classy place. she said that classy place. but she said that guy me. so she is arguing guy hit me. so she is arguing that the complete opposite that it's the complete opposite that it's the complete opposite that happened and her attorney actually showed the jury an email in court where ter

here with more on this royal showbiz reporter kinsey schofield . and kinsey, want to schofield.nt to say, who cares? i mean, we all care. we all care what you have to say. we all care about the coronation and whatever. but again, they're very successfully making this all about them. good morning to you. good morning to you. a man i was so happy to see you. a man i was so happy to see you on this morning. and then you on this morning. and then you opened it with who cares? i'm oh, no. you know, this is a they love their will. they are won't they game. but a part of me feels like perhaps harry and meghan aren't answering whether or not they're attending the coronation because of security concerns . harry's currently concerns. harry's currently suing the government over police protection . spare his book where protection. spare his book where he talks about the 25 people he killed in afghanistan has heightened the concern even over security for prince harry. and honestly, there is speculation that a part of the reason that harry and meghan lost frogmore was over secure. pretty conc

kinsey and mr. palmback have this murder standing on the concrete, standing on the concrete, whether one foot's in, one foot's out, both feet are in, but there should have been footwear impressions, but we'll never know because it was not preserved. it was not taken. the thing that has baffled us, has completely baffled us is why did they never take dna samples off of maggie's clothes? her dress. why did they never take dna samples off paul's clothes. they never did. they never did, and we asked their investigator, why didn't you? that's somebody else's job. that's somebody else's job. it was never done, but you know whose clothing they took dna off of extensively? alex. and you heard agent zapota talk about all the different grids on her shirt where dna samples were taken. was alex assaulted on june the 7th? no, he wasn't assaulted. was alex wrestling with the say -- assailant on june the 7th? there's no evidence of that. so why are they taking dna evidence off of alex's clothing in june of 2021? a

kinsey in kinsey schofield, that just in reaction to the fact that the is supposedly going to go gender they actually they would actually do it, but they would go anyway, shall we to give to money countries affected by the slave years slave trade. hundreds of years ago mp says that we do ago a. labour mp says that we do you think that you should have to pay more in size to get to places like the caribbean and because the slave trade. i'm because of the slave trade. i'm patrick christys. next all right. well, the latest bonkers things come out of british politics is that labour mp lewis has called on the government to open negotiations with its former colonies in the canbbean with its former colonies in the caribbean to discuss reparations for the british empire's role in the trade. the call the slave trade. the call follows the example of the trevelyan who travelled trevelyan family who travelled to last year to to grenada last year to apologise their role in apologise to their role in enslaving 1000 africans on the island . with me is rafe island. with me now is rafe heydel—mankoo who

kinsey did a great job.ne of the things that i think we were able to point out with that is not only how ridiculous what they were saying was but that also they were trying to convince this jury that they could say things in absolutes that the crime scene just doesn't tell you. so aside from how ridiculous that assertion was, you know, again, they were also, you know, trying to establish definitive height of the shooter or that there had to be two shooters based on practical things, well, it'd just be easy enough to empty out the clip in a blackout. these experts, i think, went too far and i give the jury a lot of credit, and i give the general and dr. kinsey a lot of credit, but you know, the jurors saw that for what it is. you know, jurors have a great meter for bull, and i think that they saw that from the defense experts who tried to convince them that they could say things that simply are beyond what are -- what's reasonable. >> his financial crimes or the allegations of his financial crimes are shockin

well tell us more, kinsey . yeah, i tell us more, kinsey.e a total invasion of privacy that a privacy private investigator, they're alleging hid microphones in their phones, in their homes , in their cars. in their phones, in their homes , in their cars . they were , in their cars. they were followed around, would dress up as doctors to access their banking information. they are to access their medical information . they hacked their banking information . there is a very information. there is a very large list here of accusations . large list here of accusations. and you're right, it you know, it's sadie frost. it's elizabeth hurley , it's elton john. and hurley, it's elton john. and it's prince harry. this is , you it's prince harry. this is, you know, a very elite group of pubuc know, a very elite group of public figures making these accusations. we all thought we'd moved on from this . in the uk. moved on from this. in the uk. the tabloids were holed over the coals, weren't they, in the leveson inquiry? and those days were behind us. we t

good morning to you, kinsey. looking at home kinsey. i'm just looking at home at showbiz tweet. who's a spokesperson has described this as a cruel move and that this was only space that they was the only space that they felt safe in in the uk. was the only space that they felt safe in in the uk . you felt safe in in the uk. you know, isabel, he's not supposed to be their spokesperson. he's supposed to be an independent journalist for yahoo. but he did write the biography finding freedom, he conveniently freedom, and he conveniently gets all of these scoops. so he does like a spokesperson is does seem like a spokesperson is this not the greatest episode of keeping up with the kardashians? that you have seen? i feel that you ever have seen? i feel like kris jenner been like kris jenner has just been dropped from the guest house. this is very upsetting to the duke and duchess of sussex. we've spoken over the last few weeks about how meghan has reportedly here in the states felt overwhelmed, felt excluded. we had no idea it was related to real estate. king charles allegedly told the

and goes up into the ceiling as you've heard the testimony from kinsey. and blows his brains out. >> reporter: paul fell to the concrete after the second fatal shot. his brain hitting the pavement. as the jury could see at the scene, all of that was within sight of where maggie murdaugh's body was found on the grass near the shed. the two shootings were just about 12 steps apart. listen as the prosecutor recreates the alleged events including the use of the second gun, the blackout rifle. >> maggie sees what happens and she comes running over there, running to her baby. probably the last thing on her mind thinking that it was him who had done this. while he's gotten picked up the lackout, and opens fire, and she takes those two shots and it crumples her over. >> reporter: and prosecutors zeroed in on how murdaugh lied about being at the kennels around the time of the murders. the video later found on paul's cellphone was reported at 8:44 p.m. minutes before prosecutors say they were killed. alex murdaugh can be heard talking in the background though for 2

doctor, you have heard from kenny kinsey and the defense experts, so do you have the computer back? >> all right. everybody, we have a little time and a lot to get to. you have been watching closing arguments in alec murdaugh case. of course the prosecution presenting these closing arguments led by chief prosecutor creighton waters. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for katy tur. really going through the case in the last couple of hours, starting at midday or so, presenting of course reasonable doubt knowing that the jury very much could foil the prosecution's arguments here by reasonable doubt, going into the motive here. this was a man in incredible financial distress, a man that was going through withdrawal because of his drug addictions, the time line, and then of course the lies. the discovery of that snapchat video and then the discovery that, in fact, alec murdaugh was the man who was the third voice that was heard in the snapchat video. i want to bring in nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett, and south carolina criminal defense attorney jack swirly as well, a close asso

i thought everyone had a therapist in in america , kinsey. i thought they america, kinsey.hought that was i thought it was. anybody in america initial your therapy? no, i agree your own therapy? no, i agree with your wife. i work out for my therapy and i talk to god. i don't need it. i don't need to sit down with a stranger. not everybody. yes now, what we're heanng everybody. yes now, what we're hearing though, that , hearing now, though, is that, you know, the palace have made it that meghan and harry can come to the coronation. they've got it. they think it's easier to put them down on the list. and if they don't come, i guess you can just take two chairs out the room, but they put it on the list. they'll get their own back there. do you think they'll put them behind a pillar at the very back, you this is back, or do you think this is now to get them back in now trying to get them back in the fold? and i think that there's probably a giant candles stick markle's stick that's got meghan markle's name they're going name on it, that they're going to behind case she to place

you heard from kenny kinsey about the mark on her leg, from the polaris over there by the overhang, next. you've seen the diagrams and the crime scene photos, all of those cases are in that area in the doorway to the feed room and where maggie was found. you heard that maggie had no defensive wounds, you also heard paul, shot with no indication that he detected a threat from the person who fired that weapon, and why, because it was him. same with maggie, because maggie sees what happens, and she comes running over there, running to her baby. probably the last thing on her mind thinking that it was him who had done this, she's running to her baby while he's picked up the blackout, and opens fire, at close range, again with no defensive wounds and she takes those two shots that you heard the doctor say were parallel, and it crumples her over. and those cases, you can see them move around. takes that shot that goes through here, and she goes down flat. and then there's the shot in the back of the head. malice, is that malice, ladies and gentlemen? is that malice to do that? is that intentio

like that and catches paul like that and goes up into the ceiling as you've heard the testimony from kinsey. and blows his brains out. >> reporter: paul fell to the con creed after the second fatal shot. his brain hitting the pavement. as the jury could see at the scene, all of that was within sight of where maggie murdaugh's body was found on the grass near the shed. the pool reporter measured the two shootings were just about 12 steps apart. listen as the prosecutor recreates the alleged events including the use of the blackout rifle. >> because maggie sees what happens and she comes running over there, running to her baby. probably the last thing on her mind thinking that it was him who had done this. while he's picked up the blackout and opens fire. and she takes those two shots. and it crumples her over. >> reporter: and prosecutors zeroed in on how murdaugh lied about being at the kennels around the time of the murders. the video later found on paul's cellphone was recorded at 8:44 p.m. minutes before prosecutors say they were killed. alex murdaugh can be heard talking in the backgrou

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more pressing issues that she needs to be concerned about and really advocating for on behalf of her kinseybrian: will you try to beat her again? >> you know, brian, i will have to come back and share the good news with you about that one. but i do believe that she needs to be unseated. and someone who really cares about our constitution and country and united vs. a divider needs to hold that seat in long island city and the queens and the bronx overall. >> brian: you have a great personal immigrant story yourself to tell and hopefully people have a chance to see it and vote for it again. scherie murray, thank you very much. >> thank you for having me great to be with you this morning. >> brian: no problem. see where this ethic probe goes. coming up, is buster murdaugh next? >> buster's next. [inaudible] buster's next. >> why alex murdaugh's son is now under the microscope. first, tax season scam. what you need to watch out for. ramsey solutions, rachel cruze is here with tips to make the most of your tax filing. in fact, i think she is right here ♪ [coughing] hi, susan. honey. yeah. i resp

. >> ainsley: will cain joins us with seven time world champion bull rider and his name is sage kinsey legendary. seven-time champion bull riding champion over eight year span, guys. he held a decade. it is great to have you this morning. i'm decked out as though i'm ready to get on here this is just are behind us. the fast protects me from getting shared with the horn, right? >> the helmet. i think it is the best thing in bowl riding. strictly because you take a lot of shots, big shots. so the helmet protects the face, protects a little bit. >> how many times have you been injured? i don't know what you are talking about. he has going for an mri later today, shoulder, hip, pelvis, concussion, you name it. >> you name it, it has happened to one of us. >> this guy behind us, tell us a little bit about this guy. jester, not a morning person. a little angry. tell me about gesture. >> not a morning person we found out that gesture is one of the top bowls in the pcra and he is the super of rodeo three times which is crazy and i want of that is wow. one of the best athletes that we have. >>

as you have heard the testimony from kinsey.rains out. >> paul fell to the concrete after the second fatal shot. his brain hitting the pavement. as the jury could see at the scene, all of that was within sight of where maggie murdaugh's body was found on the grass near the shed. the reporter measured the two shootings were 12 steps apart. listen as the prosecutor recreates the alleged events, including the use of the second gun, the blackout rifle. >> because maggie sees what happens, and she comes running over there, running to her baby. probably the last thing on her mind, thinking that it was him who had done this. he has picked up the blackout. and opens fire. she takes those two shots. it crumples her over. . >> in his closing, the prosecutor zeroed in on how murdaugh lied to investigators about being at the kennels with his family around the time of the murders. the video later found on paul's cell phone was recorded at 8:44 p.m., minutes before prosecutors say they were killed. alex murdaugh can be heard talking in the ba

kenneth kinsey, an expert in crime scene investigation and recreation called back to the stand by thete key system. a forensic scientist testified for the defense and told the jury whoever killed maggie and paul murdaugh was likely much shorter than alex murdaugh, who is about 6'4". but the prosecution's expert disagreed. >> can a person be on their knee and get the same angle and be standing and get the same angle? >> yes, sir. >> can a 6'4" person and a 5'4" person still shoot the same angle, just at different distances? >> absolutely. >> can you exclude a 6'4" defendant like alex murdaugh, or anyone for that matter at that height from shooting that shotgun at that angle? >> absolutely not. >> reporter: in one of the most dramatic moments of the trial, south carolina attorney general allen wilson pointed a shotgun atkinsy to illustrate another defense theory the state also believes is flawed. >> if you'll give me permission to point this at you, correct? >> i have. >> reporter: a defense witness said paul murdaugh's fatal shot was a downward facing contact wound, meaning the barrel

kinsey well, i mean, i think that there was no slap it. evening and you just piled on and robert pattinson is a national treasure . sure. you have to take your batman comments back and have you actually watched the film ? i you actually watched the film? i did, but i loved twilight. i owned to robert patents and cut—outs and, a pillow case with his face on it. i'll watch it all day long, eamonn. there's only so much misery. one person of one superhero can take. i mean, it looks fantastic. the sun's fantastic. the effects are fantastic. he's probably fantastic. he's probably fantastic too. but it is drier as heck. it really , really is. as heck. it really, really is. no, i wasn't having it. i'm i'm cunous no, i wasn't having it. i'm i'm curious at the oscars, a bit dreary. i don't know. we've had the beige carpet. we haven't had any slapping. there's not sort of front page news here. i mean , what about kimmel? what , what about jemmy kimmel? what was it beige or did he was he was it beige or did he deliver ? you know, he absolutely deliver

. >> reporter: including forensics expert kinsey, who said he could not endorse or rule out the theory raised by the defense that two shooters were involved in the murders. while taking direct issue with the defense witness who used bullet trajectories to conclude the shooter likely would have been between 5'2" and 5'4". a foot shorter than alex murdaugh. hinting arguing multiple variables make it impossible to determine the shooter's height or gun position with any certain. >> it could be 5'4", 6'4" as i demonstrated. >> the firearms have never been recovered and alex murdaugh has repeatedly maintained we never hurt his wife or son >> i didn't shoot my wife or my son any time ever >> murdaugh emotional as the court heard graphic details about the manner of paul's shooting. >> this is terrible, and i know it's terrible, probably the worst thing you ever saw. >> the state also reviving the issue of the dozen of alleged financial crimes murdaugh is separately facing which they have argued is part of his motive murdaugh's long-time friend and former colleague, ronnie crosby, taking the st

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. >> i would like to interject also senator kinsey objected so he and general milley did. >> i wouldn't say the president overruled us. they take advice from all kinds of people and it's their job to make a decision. all week do is render military guys in the scope of the decisions by the president to consecutive presidents and a rope made the same decision. >> i disagree with the first on the did it too. >> what i'm saying is it's my job to be an adviser on matters concerning military operations to express cost risk and benefits. the president takes that and then any president etc. and then makes a decision. we executed them so i would hesitate to use the word overruled the number two is do we go back to the language of the testimony it's a matter of tradition that we do not disclose the advice given to an actual president. think what i said was my thoughts at the time were for my analysis was i opposed to the advice given to the present. then it was pretty clear you didn't agree the policy. >> i would say my thoughts at the time were i thought given cost risk and benefit we could keep