melissa, who was gerard kiper? >> he's an astronomer and fascinating character in my book. because he came to tucson in about 1960, and he was the only one with at the time who was really interested in studying the moon and the planet. so at the time astronomers were very interested and distancing galaxy and nebula that were far we an there were few people interested at all in study the moon it was close, it was boring. you can see it pretty clearly through a telescope there wasn't much there so gerard was only one who wanted to do that, and that became incredibly important in 1961 when suddenly the president aannounced we were going to send people to the moon. >> why did he come to tucson to study the moon? >> one with was reasons was because we have a beautiful dark desert skies, so it was already a hub of the astronomer and gerard would short isly make it a hub of planetary science quite a different field actually and my book i talk about tucson as birthplace of planetary science not only dark skies and we have clear, you know, a clear view of the planets. we have these