i also have with me admiral john kirby.u hear from brian todd there, it is heroic to have these citizen rescuers, volunteers out there. but it doesn't appear that there is the coordination you would expect four or five days in so that you get a sense of who is taking care of which neighborhood, so you make sure that every area has been covered. >> i think they are trying to put those measures in place, jim, but again, you look at the footage, you can see just how widespread it is. it would be difficult to try to control each and every one of them. they have no communication, so it's hard to have command and control over civilian 4ommand fe that. i think people are just trying to pitch in where they can. the need is for small craft and the sailors who can man them and help in these water-borne searches, and they would have good command. it will take five or six days for those ships to get there. but i think they're trying to put that structure in place now. it's difficult, and i think the focus, rightly, i think, by all thes

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back with us, admiral kirby and kimberly dozier. we are told this is not just an announcement on troops but also about strategy. james mattis insisted on a decision about strategy before deciding anything on what. what does that mean? >> you want to make sure you have the end state clearly in mind what are we trying to achieve and back up from there. this is how we'll do it and this is what we need in terms of resources. resources includes people. that's classic secretary mattis thinking. i think that's right. you heard him say, john, this is a south asia strategy, not just afghanistan. he's thinking about this in regional terms. when they say south asia, they're including pakistan. doesn't matter if you get everything right in afghanistan, if pakistan is harboring terrorist groups in those tribal regions, which they have, that's always going to make for a more unstable afghanistan. make it harder for anything you wanted to do to get done there. the other thing i hope i hear tonight is support for the unity government in kabul and a

admiral kirby, how do you interpret that? anderson, i try to stay as neutral as i can, but i've got to tell you, this is the most ridiculous thing i've heard the president say i think in six months. first of all, this was putin's retaliation for us expelling 35 diplomats and shutting down some of his facilities here, that they were using for espionage. it was not a proportional response. 755 u.s. employees as opposed to 35 that we kicked out. number two, we're not trying to -- you know, the state department budget is 1% of the federal outlay of this country every year. so he's not saving that much money. we should never look at diplomacy as a cost-saving initiative. the fact that those people are there means they're serving a national interest of our country in russia. one of the most consequential bilateral relationship we have. number three, of the -- all the employees we have working there, the three consulates in moscow, 800 are local russian nationals. it has been a burr in putin's saddle for years that they're there. be

finally, military options which as hertling and kirby said in eloquent and compelling fashion, is a huge risk right now, that leaves the default position. the default position is some kind of dialogue at least to try to defuse the rhetoric. back channel, discreet, to test the proposition, alisyn that, in fact, there is a diplomatic solution to this. i'm not entirely persuaded there is. but not to pursue it, as long as he isn't dead because frankly, we haven't really tried it. >> north korea is the one saying our nuclear program is not on the table. so how does that -- where does diplomacy start with that position? >> diplomacy needs urgency, but

so we will see what happens. >> admiral kirby, your thoughts? >> i think why not? he has to do this because six months in he hasn't had a strategy for not only the war in afghanistan but the region. and the taliban is making gains, there is a pretty significant isis presence there, which is growing in fits and starts as well as al qaeda and other terrorist groups. remember what we started out doing here 16 years ago is trying to keep afghanistan from becoming a safe haven for another 9/11 attack as it was back then. now, we have made progress, there has been success, but offer the last couple of years when troop levels came out and in wake of a unity government in kabul that can't working so effectively the taliban is able to make gains. we are at a point now where you've got to do something. now, what we heard in that little clip of secretary mattis he said it's not just afghanistan strategy, it's a south asia strategy which tells you there's going to be something in the air about pakistan, hopefully it's getting harder on back stand for the save havens that they

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joining me now, two cnn military analysts, mark hurtling, and john kirby.by, i've never heard of a case where they have weighed in on a domestic tragedy like this. is this unprecedented? >> i don't know if it's unprecedented but definitely unusual for them to all comment on something like this. they do that very, very carefully, if at all. you can tell their words were measured. this started with the navy, the head of the navy doing it even before the president had a chance to comment. they very much religiously abide by an apolitical code. they do not get involved in politics. i will tell you having served with them, they don't believe what they did was weighing into politics. they believe what they did was an act of leadership, sending a strong message to their people, their families, to potential recruits and the american people what the military stands for, the values that we espouse and what you can expect from your military going forward. this was very much an important strategic moment to lay down a marker about what the u.s. military will and will n

you know, admiral kirby, you've been to guam. i've been to guam.here are about 162,000 american citizens, guamians are american citizens. what irritated north korea with the exercise barbara was referring to on july 8 when b-1 bombers flew from guam over the korean peninsula. >> it is a pacific fleet for pacific command. we have strategic bombers that can fly out of there. there is a naval base, and 12,000 military troops and families. it is a central element of our ability to project power in the pacific region. >> phil mudd, your reaction to -- this is a significant development. the north korean military is just issued this threat and we heard what the president of the united states said just a little while ago. if there are more threats, you know what's going to happen. >> i think this is maybe the most significant moment in his presidency, and i would urge his advisors, he's got to get off the twitter. it's not for political purposes. >> he didn't tweet that. >> he tweeted earlier today threatening the north koreans. >> i know, but let me play

let me offer a different perspective from admiral kirby. while i do agree with him fundamentally, i think that president trump's statements i think we're all overreacting. i think it was a rhetorical statement. it's true north korea wants to make everything about the united states. but they would do that regardless. i think now that the statement was made, we should understand that it's not necessarily bad for this president of all presidents to simply say very clearly to north korea, this is what's going to happen. i think that message has actually not been as clear as it should have been. >> do you think the president, professor, has been clear about what is going to happen? it seems like you are saying, send a clearer message to pyongyang. it wasn't clear to me. >> yes. that is the problem with perhaps some of the off the cuff and sort of highyperbolic statement from this president. i do think it's useful and it's a useful message to china and perhaps even to russia. china wants at all costs to avoid any kind of use of force. i think now

joining me now, barbara starr and john kirby. barbara, first to you. a sense of the numbers at play here. >> well, what we are talking about, as of this morning, 6300 active duty military troops either in the flood zone or nearby working helicopters, rubber boats, power boats, vehicles, high water vehicles trying to get people out to bring aid and assistance in. 6300 active duty there. another 1100 about to deploy and that includes about 690 marines who are on those two amphibious ships. they will set sail from norfolk, west virginia and transit around to texas. 690 marines on board, helicopters that will be able. they go back and forth trying to help. they are also about 300 air force personnel and nearly 800 army personnel. all working the flood zone. they have identified up to 30,000 national guard troops that could be used for all of this. what they need to do, obviously, is generate a high volume of continuous rescue missions, get people out of there and a high volume of aid missions, get aid in. food, water, bedding. now, in places where the wate

as john kirby say, you are boxing kim into a degree and what do you do, do you look weak? if he ratchet it ups and you don't response? >> what do you say of this. >> i was evacuated and walking around streets of washington and you realize within 24 or 72 hour and what we realize of the confirmation that al-qaida from afghanistan was responsible for that attack. the president, president bush had no option and he had no choice. in this case, the president has a lot of options. he could choose to focus on different issues, russia and china and the opioid crisis. i agree north korea is as potential techniquhreat. they are on a flee of america. if the president wants to select north korea as one of his priorities, my question would be why? why do you want to do this? why are you raising the profile of the north korea leader to sort of an international celebrity by spending so much time on it. he does not have to do this as president trump tr. he's making the north korea's leader as a celebrity, i don't know why. >> the u.s. always avoiding one on one question with north korea a

i hate to insult my good friend john kirby, but when it's a spokesman as opposed to someone from the general staff or someone like the president saying that, makes a world of difference. this is typical of north korean threats. is it important? sure it is. when you threaten to hit guam, that's a bad threat to make. but when you have a spokesman for the army staff versus the president of the united states r578 ramping up the emotion, alliteration and hyperbole from zero to 60, it's not a good comparison. i agree with john that we have to tamp this down. when you talk about hitting guam, as barbara starr just said, the north koreans have we think the ability to produce a miniaturized weapon. do they have the capability to launch it and re-enter and hit a target? there's no indication that they do yet. finally, do they have the intention of doing that, or is it just another threat? those three things, the ability, the capability and the intention are something that most military analysts are looking at and saying it's not there yet, but it is a threat from a spokesman, and weave got to

perspective now from lieutenant general mark hurtling, rick francona and john kirby.al, the president's comments today, how concerned are you about what's unfolding, the pace of it, the rhetoric of it? >> we should own the clock on this, anderson. this should be under our control in terms of the tempo. there's been a lot of emotion on this. this is a threat that has dire consequences where we haven't -- where we were just beginning to make steps to put together an alliance with china and russia potentially on this or make steps forward. the president does not have support of congress on this, and as you can tell by the reaction tonight, the will of the american people is unsure on this. this also comes s at a time whe there's challenges to president trump's approval and honesty levels by the american people. all of this is happening and coming together at a very tough time. it's having that truthfully is being based on some reports in terms of improvements in technologies that have been around for a couple of years. a general when he was in korea said that they had th

. >> you read it, john kirby. very specific details, the u.s. until mid august, only a few days from now, to come up with some better language. we're keeping -- we keep closely watching the speech and behavior of the u.s.. and then they say they'll launch -- if it doesn't change they'll launch these four intermediate range ballistic missiles and they'll land according to them 30 to 40 kilometers from guam. that sounds like such a specific threat. >> it very much is and certainly what strikes you when you read that statement, the naval equivalent of a shot across the bow. they're taking you before they take the shot, when they're going to do it where they're going to do it, how they're going to do it. it's a very specifically designed threat here to try to change the rhetoric coming out of the united states and to try force a different outcome. i have never seen this come out of pyongyang before. anything like this. we're used to belacose rhetoric. the specificity, the missile, the trajectory, how far away from guam it's going to land. i mean, wh

joining us now is retired rear admiral john kirby.iral kirby, to jim sciutto's reporting about the loss of steering, how does something, whether it is that or something else, how does something like this happen? >> if loss of steering was at play here, it could happen any number of ways. maybe you lose power in that part of the ship. maybe maintenance wasn't done properly on some piece of the steering gear. maybe there was just some -- machines break, so something could happen. i just don't know. we just don't know enough right now. i myself, in one transit in the strait of hormuz in the late '80s, that guided missile frigate lost power and we couldn't move the rudder because there was no electric power to move it. this does happen. it's rare but it happens and it puts the ship and its crew in greater danger when it does. >> this idea of an operational pause, one commander told me that seems more like window dressing. that's not a real solution. that's just kind of a stop gap measure. >> i would disagree, and slightly agree. i disagre

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korea militarily, economically and diplomatically to bring pressure to bear on pyongyang. >> john kirby, elise labott, thanks to both of you. appreciate it. >> on the campaign trail, presidential candidate donald trump made this promise. >> i promise you, i will not be taking very long vacations, if i take them at all. >> long, it's relative. he just kicked off a 17-day working vacation. is this hypocritical? we'll discuss. yet up 90% fall sg key nutrients from food alone. let's do more. add one a day 50+ a complete multi-vitamin with 100% daily value of more than 15 key nutrients. one a day 50+. no splashing! wait so you got rid of verizon, just like that? uh-huh. i switched to t-mobile, kept my phone-everything on it- -oh, they even paid it off! wow! yeah. it's nice that every bad decision doesn't have to be permenant! ditch verizon. keep your phone. we'll even pay it off when you switch to america's best unlimited network. and still have dry eye symptoms? ready for some relief? xiidra is the first and only eye drop approved for both the signs and symptoms of dry eye. one drop in each

i want to bring in john kirby, cnn military and diplomatic analyst, colonel steve warren and general wesley clark, former frp nato supreme allied commander. thank you for joining us. general clark, the president unveiled his plan for the u.s. strategy in afghanistan. america's longest war. listen and then we'll talk about it. >> a core pillar of our new strategy is a shift from a time-based approach to one based on conditions. i've said it many times how counterproductive it is for the united states to announce in advance the dates we intend to begin or end military options. we will not talk about numbers of troops or our plans for further military activities. conditions on the ground now the arbitrary timetables will guide our strategy from now on. america's enemies must never know our plans or believe they can wait us out. i will not say when we are going to attack, but attack we will. >> so from -- he wasn't very specific. so what is, general, the new strategy for afghanistan? >> well, it's a little hard to say. i think the framework's okay to say you're going to involve all eleme

admiral kirby, sabrina, and david, thank you so much. we're going to move on. >>> coming up next, is the u.s. closing in on a new military strategy in afghanistan. sources telling cnn that the president is growing frustrated about how the situation is th e there. >>> and today, sharp words from senator john mccain on his first week getting cancer treatment, he is speaking up. he is blaming the failures in afghanistan on a particular group of people. we'll take you live to the pentagon for that. >>> also just in, he wanted to address the american people directly but we just learned moments ago anthony scaramucci, the man who sat in that top spot of the communications shop at the white house for 11 days, is canceling his live event suddenly. we're going tell you what he planned to do and we're wondering why. >>> this as we also have audio of scaramucci's profanity-laced conversation with ryan lizza. ryan lizza joining us live. lot to talk about on this thursday. you're watching cnn. i'm brooke baldwin. hi. i'm the one clocking in... when y

i want to bring in admiral kirby to this. of course, you served on surface vessels. this is rare. this is not supposed to happen. how many layers here, how many things needed to go wrong for this to happen? >> probably 100 or more, john. it's hard to tell. the investigation will obviously dig through all of that. at its core what they'll probably find is that there were failures in decision making and situational awareness. there may even be mechanical or systemic issues. i mean -- by that, i mean, electronic systems on the ship that could have failed, too. it's really hard to tell. but for two ships to collide at sea, that is very rare. that's unusual. when you're on the u.s. navy ship you spend a lot of time learning how to avoid that circumstance. so it will come down to many, many factors that led to this. >> it's not supposed to happen once, admiral. the fact is, depending how you count, there are four incidents and at least two deadly ones. we don't know if the one overnight is deadly. they're still searching but two catastrophic ones over the past two months. does it concer

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with me to discuss is cnn national security analyst, john kirby. thank you so much for joining us. are your thoughts on what we are seeing as this policy begins to emerge more clearly? >> well, i think what you are seeing is a policy memo that was heavily influenced by the pentagon in crafting. remember, you said, the president launched a series of tweets and made a blanket ban with no context or anything provided to military leaders. what happened here, in the intervening weeks, the military staff has gotten involved in such a way that it can be implemented according to dictates they think they can meet. there's going to be, i think, i haven't seen it, but i think some flexibility and discretion that secretary mattis is going to be able to show how he implements going forward. looks like sessions recruiting is going to be cut off. that's a simple thing to do when they identify themselves as tran transgender, which they don't always. the medical stuff was largely in place already. there was some allowances for medical treatment in the past. this is going to give him flexibility. th

the john kirby. the david -- to you first. every problem with russia, as john outlined, is congress's fault according to this president. a bill that he signed, by the way, what do you make of that this morning? and by the way, what message does it send to putin? >> so there's a lot to unpack there. the first of all, obviously not every problem with russia can lay at congress's feet. he signed it reluctantly. we have to remember where this call started. it started in the recent past with the election meddling but also russia's destabilizing activities in the ukraine throughout europe and in syria. the history here is long and complicated. and to lay it all at congress's feet is too simplistic and not accurate. there is a lot that we can still try to work with russia on but unless they start to chain the behavior and hopefully these sanctions will work. i just don't see that happening. i do find some comfort though in the strong comments about this. the fact that they reacted so angrily tells you how effective these sanctions ma

john avlon, associate editor and columnist for real clear politics, and john kirby. and we need to have an operating assumption here. do we go after the president's words and try to figure out what he's saying on a regular basis? yes. and is this situation like every other one? no. and why? because, john, we're talking about an unstable mad man who is running north korea. and if you poke at that with the fire and the fury, it's different than what he is saying about mitch mcconnell or about us or about anybody else. because we don't have nuclear warheads. >> right. this is where the idea that words matter, presidential words matter, starts to get weaponized, if you will. because it's one thing to be throwing hand grenades around the calls of washington, rhetorically and angering people for no reason. but as you say, you're dealing with a country that effectively is a cult. and it's a nuclear power. and all of a sudden to be firing off phrases that sound really tough to you but have real world meaning in geo political strategy without any connection or coordination wi

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john kirby, appreciate your perspective. >> you bet.> there's a new lawsuit that accuses the white house of working in tandem with fox news to concoct a fake news story about the murder of a dnc staffer. we hear from seth rich's family next. >>> explosives claims the white house, of a concocted news story about the murder of d nnchtsc staffer seth rich. he stands by the false report. >> fox news retracted the story as we now know. >> right. >> do you still believe there's something to this suggestion? >> i don't believe there's anything in that story that is inaccurate. >> you believe it's all accurate. >> i believe rod wheeler's saying he was misquoted is the reason they pulled it. >> so cnn senior media correspondent and host of "reliable sources" brian stelter joins us. what a complicated and tragic story this is. basically ed buttowsky, not a journalist, hooks up with rod wheeler, not a journalist and together begin peddling this story that there's some connection between the murder of seth rich, a young dnc staffer and wikileaks an

retired rear admiral and cnn military an legitimate john kirby joins now. thanks for joining us. steering went out supposedly just before the crash. what potentially could cause a problem like that? >> could be anything. maybe maintenance wasn't done. an electronic or electrical failure causing some of the system to go down. they'll figure this out, if, in fact, it's true there was a steering casualty in the moments before the collision. i can't imagine that had something to do with the collision itself. is it the only factor? maybe not. did the crew have other alternatives to try to get the steering back on? yes. matt said, maybe didn't utilize them or they weren't available. we'll have to let the investigation pan itself out. >> and unusual to have warships involved in these accidents in this year alone in this part of the world. isn't it? >> very unusual. not only four accidents but four ship-handles accidents. three collisions and a grounding. get down to ship handling in the same region of the world. why the admiral called for a comprehensive review of forward deployed naval

john kirby. let's listen to nikki haley. she gave a defense of the speech. here it is. >> i think the president's speech was strong. the i think it was showing that we are taking an entirely new approach from what's happened in the past. i was in h the national security council meetings, there were multiple meetings. there was a lot of information. there were a lot of questions asked. and i think what you saw last night was something the president believes in and something he's going to follow through with. in the past, it's always been time based on when we were going to get out or based on the number of troops. now it's results-based. that worked. >> there's no question the president needed to have his own mind changed. citizen and even candidate trump would have hated that speech last night because he was the complete opposite mind set. >> no. i think that really shows the signs of a president. the one thing is to be a kad and talk about what you think. the other is to be a president and talk about what you know. the stakt p facts were put on the table an

admiral kirby, this shows, i think, the difficulty with campaign promises and the difference betweenering on it with a world leader. >> it does. it also shows a man who is absolutely consumed with his own image and the way the press perceives him and his leadership. in both calls -- you talk and the one with the mexican president, but with the australian prime minister he was fixated on the image of him accepting these 1200 refugees in accordance with the deal. it was about the i78 madge and perception and how it would play to his base rather than a meaningful strategic discussion about real geopolitical and trade issues between us and these two other countries. it was fascinating to me -- it was kind of revealing in that it was boldly classic donald trump, he spoke almost to those two guys the way he speaks at these rallies like last night. there wasn't a whole lot hidden there. it was really about his image and perception of it. >> it also exposes the promise that mexico was going to pay for it was a lie. mexico never agreed to it, of course. now he's begging in those calls, please

i want to bring in former state department john kirby, a retired admiral in the navy.ms we hear it time and time again that all options are on the table after north korea tests a missile. at what point do those words seem hollow or do they already seem hollow. barbara starr is saying it's rhetoric more than reality. >> when we say all options are on the table, we think military options. that's what we gravitate to. clearly, barbara points out, threats and bluster, those kinds of things aren't changing the calculus of kim jong-un. when i hear all options on the table, what i hope it means and the administration means is diplomacy is still an option, there are ways to work through it in a diplomatic, peaceful way to deal with the crisis. you have to remember, kim jong-un thinks the united states is a threat to him and his regime. that is why he pursues this program. as long as we give him reason to believe that, he's going to continue to perfect his program. i'm not saying we reduce military exercises or reduce or presence on the ground, but we need to look for opportuni

our cnn military diplomatic analyst retired rear admiral john kirby with us.ise labott still with us and cnn military analyst retired army major general james "spider" marks with us as well. the latest statement, general marks a tweet. military solutions fully in place, locked and loaded should north korea act unwisely. hopefully kim jong-un will find another path. strong words. went from fire and fury to locked and loaded? >> it's a sequence of events that really says we're going to ratchet this thing up. not necessary for what's going on. you'd prefer the president not engage in this verbal conflagration. doesn't need to do it. the regime up north has routinely done that, but his point remains, and as secretary mattis has said, the military readiness not just on the peninsula with south korea but also our readiness in the region is at a high level all the time. 24/7. so relative to the threat of sending missiles in the direction of guam, we can figure all that out. barbara starr gave a good lay down in terms of how that happens. the enterprise among ship, la

it's not a big deal. >> john kirby, he says disgraceful to me, my family, my entire team. reaction? >> using size 12 to kill the cockroach again and again and again. i've never responded to stories like that, never had to but i do understand where they are coming from from a pr perspective and, as jamie said, rightly the statement was for an audience of one. yes, it drew more attention to the story but it was going to get attention anyway and this was a way to be very declare tif. >> rebecca, we're paying attention to it now because of the reaction from the vice president. >> and the reaction today has been to bash "the new york times." you haven't seen anything about pence. he doesn't believe this reporting. it's worth noting, also, that the reporting done by "the new york times," they don't question the quality of that because these reporters did a very good job but it's worth noting that there may be other motives here. it's likely if the president doesn't approve, he could face a primary. so he and his team, mike pence, would need those connections in iowa, these early

let's talk with john kirby and ann compton about this.er pentagon spokesman of the obama administration, ann compton longtime white house correspondent for abc news. yon, do you think that the tenor, the tone of the press coverage actually influenced the president this week, caused him to talk a in certain way about north korea? >>> i kind of do, brian. i'm not boning good journalism. the north's program is obviously advancing that isser than anybody wanted but i think there was this overescalating feeding itself of an coke chamber in terms of the coverage. he asked about the story in washington poes, the one that started all this, don't forget, a tuesday morning story about their ability, the north's ability to miniaturize a warh d warhead. he got asked about it in an opioid meeting and that's when we got fire and fury. in the next two to three days wes ka lated to the point the north koreans were saying we're at the brink of nuclear war. some of the tone and tenor of the coverage as well as social media chatter i think it just help eed

. >> let's bring in john kirby. you are heard some of this and saying look, this rhetoric is like any other president, it is harmful to the dialogue. to you, though, the argument that americans are waking up this morning and looking at a north korea with much more advanced nuclear capabilities that could be months away from striking the u.s. mainland. they are supposed to think what? >> well, obviously, they should be concerned about what north korea is going and the threat they pose not only to the region, but to us. i think those are justified concerns. let me mention a couple things. i agree, the rhetoric is reckless and irresponsible by the president. we should be looking for ways to de-escalate the tension, pursue diplomatic tensions the way secretary mattis has been advocating. i don't think this is really -- people are paying attention to this. look at where we have been in the last 72 hours. look how all this started. the fact that the north was working toward miniaturization is something the intelligence co

bringing in cnn's military analyst john kirby and a former spokesman and pentagon press secretary.ident went ahead with the recommendation of adding 4,000 additional troops, what kind of impact do you think that actually could have in that country? >> remember, manu, the commander, general nicholson, has been asking for about that number. what he wants to do with this, twofold. one, beef up the counterterrorism mitchell. more fighters on the ground to go after the isis network and other al qaeda affiliated groups actually using afghanistan, continue to use afghanistan, as a safer haven and use some for the advise and train beefing up afghan security forces fighting bravely in the field but in sore need of additional help. sort of a third component, too. enabling functions. air support, logistics, information and surveillance reconnaissance thas reconnaissance, that kind of thing. i think you'll see the three prongs if you use these troops and as a component of force protection. one of the reasons we don't have more troops is because we don't have mo have force protections services

today our friend jessica is going to use those ingredients for a delicious recipe inspired by kirby'svings. >> first condensed milk. now we're going to put in some avocado. >> are you out of your mind, jessica? together in a blender? what are you thinking? >> avocados in their sweet shakes all the time. they can't be that bad. >> whipping cream is next. you may see where this idea is going. once you're done with the whipping cream, she folds that into her original mixture of condensed milk and avocado. puts that into a loaf pan. so she puts that loaf into the freezer overnight. do you know where this is going? jessica, bring it in. avocado ice cream. that looks pretty dang simple. >> you didn't have to put this in one of those ice cream makers that churns and churns? >> no. it's no-churn ice cream. just the freezer. >> you made that look awfully simple. >> oh, my goodness. this is good. it's unique. it's almost like -- >> it's fresh. >> it's like fresh, garden fresh ice cream. >> i'm glad you like it. it is a different ice cream. if you don't like avocados, you might not like the ice

add mirror kirby, listen to senator lindsey graham, a member of the senate armed services committee. possibility of a war with north korea. >> there is a military option to destroy north korea's program and north korea itself. he's not going to allow president trump the ability of this madman to have a missile to hit america. it there's going to be a war to stop him it will be over there. if thousands die, they're going to die over there and not going to die here and he's told me that to my face. >> what's your reaction to that? because if there's military action, north korea has the capability of almost leveling seoul, a city just south of the demilitarized zone with, what, 15 million people? >> i think the senator is reflecting the extreme sort of worst-case scenario here. clearly we have a range of military options. they're not all about all-out war, although the military has to be ready for that. there's a range of other ones and a couple things to remember about that. one, short of war and used to try to impel different behavior out of the north. two, really used, where secretar

. >>> outfront now, former pentagon press secretary john kirby, retired rear admiral with the navy.khan, and mark preston. john, if i could start with you. by our count, this is the 19th missile launch by north korea this year alone. each test you will often say they learn something from. what's the military significance of these tests tonight? >> well, i think michelle's got it right. this is largely a reaction to the exercises, but let's not just hang our hat on that. they do learn from each of these tests. these are short-range missiles. while they may not be a threat to the united states, they are a threat to south korea and the korean peninsula neighbors. so it has to be taken seriously. but obviously, they continue to try to move forward on a ballistic missile program that could potentially become nuclear capable in the future. that's the essence here, as well as reacting to south korean and u.s. exercises going on. >> mark, tuesday in phoenix, the president claiminging? -- claiming something of a victory, saying the north korean dictator respecting the u.s. can we look at the

politics reporter, editor at large chris se lcelizza, john avalon, and john kirby. you were in this fray and you lived this. now you're being blamed for it as part of the obama administration. let's start with that. president trump's criticism that president presidents, including obama, were weak. obama specifically as president wouldn't even talk about it. the president's quote, i will talk. it needs to be done. >> well, oversimplified, president obama wasn't afraid to talk about the problem with north korea. he presided in just the last year of his administration over the toughest international sanctions ever enacted against the regime and he worked his problem very hard for the entire eight years as did his two predecessors. president trump seis not wrong when he complains about the fact that he inherited a much more accelerated program. he's right to be concern ed abot that. but going back and just blaming past presidents is i think -- it's just a ridiculous kind of thing to do because this is a problem that the whole international community has been facing. >>

retired rear admiral john kirby, now a cnn national security analyst. truly amazing events here.series of accidents? >> that's the thing, i don't think we can. we need to be careful we don't try to you saw the head of the navy come out and say i don't know if we have a systemic problem here or not. i don't know if we have a fleet problem in the pacific that we don't know about. he's ordered a comprehensive review across the region, and operational pause across the entire navy to take a knee and try to figure out whether we got our training in place. >> this a highly volatile area with the north korea threat. do these incidents undermine u.s. military readiness in the region? >> when you have three ships now that are out of commission, as we do now, certainly there's a gap there in capability. that said, the navy has redundant capabilities out there. they have 14 other ships that can pick up some of the slack. i'm not worried about the navy not being able to answer all bells or meet the threat from north korea or any other threat in the region right now. they'll deal with. but loo

>> well, i think i heard it a little bit differently from my friend admiral kirby. would say that, you know, for mr. gorka to say the things that he said really flies in the face of two major things. first of all, the constitution of the united states which predicates civilian control of the military, and the traditions that we have, where the state department is actually the number one when it comes to foreign engagements, foreign diplomacy in the military, plays a supporting role in that case. number two, i referred mr. gorka to klauvitz. he basically said war is an extension of politics by other means. means diplomacy. for him to make that separation and distinction and sound like, he is actually taking the state department out of the business of military options, military consideration, military planning. that is a huge mistake. and it really, quite frankly, won't work. it is a -- was a very bad thing for him to actually make that statement not only to a radio reporter but a radio reporter of a major network in an allied country. >> admiral, how would you respon

retire rear admiral john kirby. the other day the president was tweeting and saying relatively nice things about kim jong-un. kim jong-un made a very wise and well reasoned decision. the alternative would have been both catastrophic and unacceptable. he then tweeted, he then said on tuesday that speech in phoenix, kim jong-un, i respect the fact that i believe he is starting to respect us. i respect that fact very much. maybe, probably not, but maybe something positive could come of that. the u.s. is not going to like another ballistic missile launch by the north koreans. >> no, certainly not. secretary tillerson also earlier in the week said similar sort of conciliatory things to kim jong-un and the regime, i think trying to keep the tension down. but, look, these guys have been racing towards a ballistic missile program and nuclear program to go along with it for a long time and i see nothing that is going to stop them from doing that. this is, if it's true that these reports are true, it's most likely a response