and that's the legitimacy of kirk's observation. was also the legitimacy of what buckley was dealing with. and he said, okay, let's get real, guys. you know, it doesn't work quite this way and you can't be that ideological. but that fight is an important fight, which is going on now, i would say, in the movement, but now unlike the '60s, the movement is reflected by the republican party. and you've got the -- there are a couple of examples right now. there's a fight going on over the control of the cato institute between the koch brothers, and cato was originally the koch brothers foundation. and became cato. the current people who control the cato institute, because they are libertarians who basically say -- on both your parties. and the kochs are saying, we're libertarians who think that doesn't get you very far. that's a legitimate argument within that movement. on the other side, you have the -- you have people now who are beginning to say, we can't remake the world in the -- in our image. that was something the neoconservatives

whistleblowers thomas drake and kirk we both men were involved in exposing the n.s.a.'s massive arguably illegal domestic spying program known as the trailblazer project initiated in two thousand spite not leaking any classified information and exhaustedly going through all the protocols required for members of the intelligence community to blow the whistle on wrongdoing both men face serious retributions for going public with what they knew about the n.s.a. surveillance program in two thousand and seven after a reporter for the baltimore sun jane information regarding waste fraud abuse the n.s.a. f.b.i. agents raided the home of kirk wiebe confiscating computer hard drives and business records and revoking the security security clearance for this a veteran that he had held since one thousand nine hundred sixty four we be it was not charged with any crime however thomas drake whose home was also rated was charged with multiple crime. including violation of the espionage act of one nine hundred seventeen eventually all those charges were dropped in two thousand and eleve

were charged with extra threats kirk one did the one to the n.s.a. start looking inside you know this is what you just you just described this is nine eleven was was the event that it was pretty quick pretty quickly within a month month and a half after nine eleven. is what i'm told it began. and you have to understand and i say it was already in a bad position with regard to network communications it was in a weak position so it then did not have the capability to monitor all the world's communications and that's going to take a while to get to it's going to take some growth and learning but certainly that facility will be able to store the communications for when that comes in and presumably process them. back to what extent is that facility an in-house project versus external contractors we were talking earlier about how nine eleven became you know an opportunity to make billions and a small number of people we call multi multi millionaires is that is that facility still traveling down the road or has the n.s.a. pulled back and said we're going to

kirk overstates it because they dislike him as much as they dislike him. but the libertarian, the problem in all of these places going to extremes, and of course the libertarians who didn't go to extremes he said weren't libertarians, they were conservatives, but it's on the foreign policy side. although paul's getting a lot of support there, because the other candidates have all sort of adopted a neocon serve tiff position on foreign policy. the u.s. role is to go forward and remake the world in its own image. and paul is way extreme the other way. but the libertarian sort of posture on that came about because their analysis of history, which is entirely correct is that the growth of the super state is a growth of what they call the so-called welfare state. it's the need to get resources and command an economy to go to war that created everything from the income tax to the regulations and all these things. and back during the '70s, they said, well, then, if you didn't have to have a war, then you wouldn't grow the government. that logically follows. but i

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lawyer for kirk odom says it is subjective. >> it is entirely subjective. examiner objectively examines the samples, decides whether or not to call it a match. >> reporter: now congress is considering national standards to help prevent what happened to kirk odom. found guilty by a hair. pete williams, nbc news, washington. >>> still ahead, as "nbc nightly news" continues epic downfall for a home town hero. secrets and lies and hundreds of millions of dollars are missing. and later. beautiful, beautiful, making a difference one flash at a time. . >>> we're back now with a story about financial fraud involving the kind of big money you hear about on wall street. but this one happened on main street in a town in iowa. tonight a one time town hero is in jail and millions of dollars are missing and a lot of folks are left in shock. >> reporter: it seemed like the ultimate local boy makes good story. moves his local headquarters who made money selling commodities moves back home cedar falls, iowa, population 9,000 and opens an upscale restaurant in 2009 in the mi

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i didn't know what to think. >> reporter: he plays football with kirk at east catholic high school andh him just yesterday. >> sounded like he was getting better definitely better than before. >> reporter: now listed in fair condition emergency managers tell us he is doing great, sitting up and talkinghis mother in providence hospital anchorage a state employee assigned to the glacier for the past few years was not there her position was slashed from the budget. >> people here were very disappointed the city made a protest to the state. >> reporter: with kirk alive and well family and friends are focusing on his rescue. >> someone said he wasn't supposed to live through it. amazes me. >> big game on the diamond for dcs team and nats defense comes up big against the marlins, dave ross on deck with sports next  >>> so nats getting back to the regular grind. >> all-star break is over. ian desmond did not play. we are finding out more about his injury. he sat out for the first time since april 19th. the same oblique injury that kept him out of the mid-summers cla

call it a match. >> now congress is considering national standards to help prevent what happened to kirk odom, found guilty by a hair. pete williams, nbc news, washington. >>> let's check on the weather now. >> we are talking about big changes according to the computer models here across the next couple days. looks like a trough will dig into the western half of the country, and even today places that got into the 80s and 90s, they got very close to 90 degrees, and those places have already began to cool, about 5 to 7 degrees, and 75 in san jose, and that's a sure sign the trough is bringing in much cooler weather. we still have clear skies across much of the inland valleys, but it's the coastal locations that are starting to see the fog build in, and there are showers and thunderstorms building in all across the northern plains because of the trough, and that cold eriair colliding. and the south bay for tomorrow topping out in the 70s, and same for the east bay with very blustery conditions throughout the day. and we will talk more about the forecast and when things will warm up, becaus

we met with kirk campbell assistant secretary of state for east asian and pacific affairs last week where we talked about the administration's rebalancing strategy. i asked him to explain the pivot and why it's so important. >> i would -- define our purposes in a larger context actually. i think by any measure, the lion's share of the 21st century is going to be written in asia in terms of the fastest growing economies, tremendous economic potential. a lot of security challenges. and opportunities that are virtually unprecedented for the united states. so i think our engagement is with the region as a whole. -- region as a whole. you know you really didn't divide the region in terms of like you know some countries that are anxious and others that are friendly. overall, every country in asia wants a better relationship with china and also want to have a good relationship with the united states. our determination is that we want a broad based multifaceted engagement that spans military and strategic engagement necessary trades and investment, people to people engagement. and thousand to wor

. >> the former commanding officer kirk lip old ald the event that left 17 dead and 37 injured. >> i was doing routine paperwork when at 11:18 there was a thunderous explosion. you could feel all 505 people and tons of destroyer go up to the right. we seem to hang for a second in the air as the ship was doing this odd twisting and flexing. we came back down in the water and lights went down and ceiling tiles popped out and everything lifted up about a foot and slammed back down. i grabbed the underside of my desk in a brace position until the ship stopped moving. >> more with front burner author and commander kirk lip old at 8:00 on c-span's q&a. >> they look at government bureaucracy. the discussion focuses on executive power and the constitution and power. they include law school professors and clinton, bush, and obama officials. this is an hour and 45 minutes. >> welcome become and thank you for joining us for our third panel. you will be happy to know that the professor did get his photo shoot and turns out vice president cheney did not. we will still have that for posterity. thi

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and that video is a 2 1/2-minute youtube video on senator kirk's website. back to your calls, the question about a member's personal health, how much should you know? how far do we need to know? mild he red has been waiting. st. louis, missouri. good morning. caller: good morning. thanks for c-span. i have a question to ask of c-span as to why do -- who picked the subject matters that you talk about each day. there is so much going on in this country affecting much more people, and i'm just puzzled as to why do you even comment on a representative's health that has just come into play? naturally we need to know a little bit, but we don't need to dig into it 45 minutes or so. and mental illness is something different than a physical illness. it's not something that people will, you know, if you say you have cancer or just like the senator that has a heart attack, you have more compassion, whereas mental illness is something that people get all -- like we're talking about a person on the moon or something, but it's a disorder of the body also. so i don't thin

joining me once again former nsa official thomas drake, kirk weibe, and william dinney. mr.tart with you. this new lawsuit that appears to be moving forward threatens traps that's the wrong word, gives us the opportunity to open up this pandora's box of what the nsa is doing. do you think finally a court of law will force the nsa to be open with the public about what it has done? >> we hope so, but historically in these type of cases the government has hidden behind the state secrets clause. >> eliot: it's being challenged, and people are saying that interest is a court system designed for this, use that instead of claiming state secret. remind us what is the magnitude that we're talking about here? who has been the subject of this unconstitution surveillance, how fast do you think it is? >> essentially the entire country. i mean, this was decisions key decisions made shortly after 9/11 which began to rapidly turn the united states the equivalent of a foreign nation for electronic surveillance. >> eliot: enormous amounts of e-mail traffic was being absorbed recorded listened

. >>> coming up, a remindder the redskins have another rookie quarterback and i set down with kirk cousins, the other rook oath other side. [ male announcer ] where did all the obama stimulus money go? friends, donors, campaign supporters, special interest groups where did the obama stimulus money go? solyndra: 500 million taxpayer dollars. bankrupt. so where did the obama stimulus money go? windmills from china. electric cars from finland 79% of the 2.1 billion in stimulus grants awarded through it went to overseas companies. [ romney ] i'm mitt romney and i approve this message. . >>> welcome back to the show. the redskins drafted two rocky -- rookie quarterbacks. we know about robert griffin 3 and what about the fourth round pick, cousins, surprised as everyone else that his name was called. what is that like? obviously, you know, the pc answer, of course, you bid, your time and you want to show you're worthy of being a starting quarterback in the league, right in. >> and i am focusing on the positives. at the same time, you do want to play, and i think that if i'm good enough, the crea

come back to the kaiser report now max kaiser time now to go to london and speak with chris kirk he'sa former energy market regulator and all around energy market expert pressed kirk welcome to the kaiser report hello again max are across kind of first of all you've just returned from tehran there were reports just a few days ago that the exports of oil were down twenty to twenty year lows is this true and what sort of impacted you noticed while you were there yeah there's no question the the oil exports are down but how much of that is due to the buyers playing hardball or or actual production falling what what is hat was it what is happening max is that the iranians are actually put in a great deal of oil into storage offshore half of their tanker fleet is now fall and all of their. tanks on shore are pretty much full. the interesting thing about sanctions which i think i misunderstood is that oil will always find a home the only question is price and the more effective the sanctions the. more leverage we say that the buyers actually have so the chinese are playing hard ball the ind

russell kirk, another conservative and ally of buckley's responded, ike isn't a communist. he's a golfer. next to go were the objectivists who buckley saw as two doctrinaire and whose militant atheism offended him and offended other conservatives. and finally, the racists and extreme libertarians who at the time seemed more interested in selling the highways and legalizing drugs while agreeing with the so-called new left that the u.s. rather than the communist world was mainly responsible for the cold war, had to go. remember it wasn't just that buckley found the beliefs of the birchers of the objectivists, the racists, and the monarchists objectionable, though he did, but that he was trying, trying desperately to put together a coalition that could present an appealing and consistent philosophical message to those fed up with the direction in which the united states seemed to be heading in the '50s. buckley, of course, succeeded beyond his wildest dreams. by 1964, the new conservatives would dominate barry goldwater. drive the eastern establishment, packing or so it seemed

the uss cole." >> kirk lippold, why did you take the blame for 9/11? >> i do not think i took the blame, but i felt that i bore some response ability. it was my job years ago when i raised my right hand to defend the constitution. that meant defendant my nation. when our country was attacked, i was on active duty at the time. i was familiar with al qaeda. i felt the degree of burden that i should have been saying or doing something, having been at the focal point of that firestorm, i should have been saying something to our leadership, it to anybody that might have listened. >> right away, you say, the war on terror started with us. explain. >> the way i look at it, when you attack buildings or embassies, whether it is the world trade center, the embassies in africa, those are things that represent u.s. interests. when you attack a warship, that is different. that is something that defense u.s. citizens and our interest around the world. when you try to take away and nation's ability to protect itself, it is an act of war. >> let's go back to the begin

transparency, set of regulations that will protect the public and settle down all the hysteria and kirk -- furor about fracking. i did it when i was a kid diyala this. how do we get past that fear and uncertainty and create some sort of predictability to business needs? that became a symbol for our issues. to find the appropriate compromise so we can get on to the next problem. >> would you like to bring us up-to-date on california? maybe give us a sneak preview of the may revise briefly. >> where selling bonds and we're not disclosing materials between now and then. we just have to wait. it will be interesting. that i promise you. the basic fact is california increased its production of wealth, the state of 38 million people and all businesses. the economy is somewhat under $2 trillion. there is dynamic wealth creation in many respects. since the time i was last governor, a lot of people and businesses have moved elsewhere or the have died, gone out of business. also, a lot of people have moved here by the millions. we have 38 million people. people thought the green was here a and we

the former commander, kirk lipo. what do you think? >> it's getting tense there. by the same token we're sending anal to the iranians we mean business. we stepped up the number of forces, we have eight mine sweepers. we put in a command and control ship in the area so in the event something goes on in the naval battle, we're prepared to deal with it. able to deal with communications, handling marines we're seeing a stepping up by the u.s. sending a signal to assure israel we have the forces in the region necessary to allies, that we're keeping the gulf open and will maintain the strait of hormuz to countries in the region and to us as well. i think that it's also sending a signal to iran. we're serious, we mean business. we want you to comply with the sanction requirements. we're going to tighten them the next few weeks and months as we begin to more and more countries, especially europeans, cut off getting iranian oil and those sanctions are backing that regime into a corner. >> maybe the regime is misjudging us and it thinks given our pullout from iraq and our p

like 24-year-old chelsea kirk.he started here almost a year ago. >> reporter: what would you say to a critic who would wonder, why are you teaching these kids shakespeare? >> we can't lower the bar here because we have kids who may not be able to read or who are years behind their growth. if we were to say we just aren't going to incorporate texts like shakespeare or say we expect less from you. >> those high expectations extend beyond academics. principal arnetta young. >> it's a small enough pool that we can understand everyone and be responsive to their needs. some of our scholars have had some tremendous hurdles to overcome. >> reporter: the goal is to give scholars what many of them have had precious little of: hope. >> there's still this light in their eyes, there's still this spark. they still want to learn, they want to be successful, they want to work. >> reporter: it costs 820 tax dollars a day to house and educate an offender here. it's likely and unfortunate this might be the best public education these

that the couple of quick lines in a 1000 page pension code that changed everything, this little known kirk for the union bosses is something their own numbers cannot get, it's cost us about $56 million. >> we need the general assembly, all the members to basically recognize that these pension funds are not a special treasure trove of opportunity for rewards and punishment. the math is fairly simple. like this special deal for to lobbyists for a teachers union. they sell for a day and earned a teachers' pension for life for one single day of teaching. you come to this general assembly with an idea in mind in the piece of legislation in mind that lets you retire on atr as pension system after working one day as a substitute teacher the minute you cut bad deal, your ability to negotiate for your union and for your teachers was over. over. after our expos a house republican leader tom cross pushed for pension reform to close the loopholes that we exposed. our stories prompted a grand jury investigation that is ongoing while legislators close the door and union leaders into the lobby as they ke

snow, kirk rather, and love him or hate him, the all-time home run hitter, barry bonds. >> any godfathermy father and myself been here a long time, and to have the giants win in world series, i won that world series with them. i've been on that field putting my heart out. >> mike: game five of the 2002 series. bottom seven, j.t. snow. darren threw out the first pitch today and j. t. scooped hum inbegun. bottom six, arroya, a little too close for vogelsong. benches not but no punches. bottom two,'-2 giants. ninth. the tying run off castilla. bottom nine two outs, two men on. pagan to right. routine fly ball for jay bruce, but look at this. totally misreads it. buster posey scores. giants win in exciting fashion, a walkoff double, 4-3 your final. >> i didn't hit that ball really hard but he throw a nasty pitch so i did what i could do with the pitch and he misplayed the ball. >> what a day at at&t park. time for some soccer. not just any matchup but euro cup finals with spain and italy. fans in rome and madrid and san francisco, as you saw earlier, out in droves to watch the contest. bragg

sergeant kirk bauer. thanks so much. >> thank you, fredricka. >>> they are incredible.e on the denali challenge, visit their website, www.dsusa.org. >>> all right, it is one of the more amazing survivor stories of the utah wildfire. phoenix, the baby golden eagle, severely burned when fire hit his nest, he is recovering. but it is way too early to see whether or not he will ever be able to fly again. >> for him to survive something like that is outstanding. there's just no words for it. >> reporter: the story of the seagull starts on june 112th when he was photographed by kent keller. >> he is a bird bander. sew goes up and bands these birds in the nest. and that gives us longevity records, and that type of stuff. >> reporter: on this ledge of eagle mountain -- >> he was the single baby in the nest. >> reporter: on june 21st, human-caused fire began burning. thousands of acres consumed over days, including the nest site with the aeglet too young to fly. >> basically, he went back it retrieve a band and wanted the data on the band. >> reporter: he went back thinking he w

on no. 9 tiger begins the day four shots back has bogeys on to the first three holes branson added kirk not a single bogey a different story today and six bogeys finishes 3 over 73. wow. >>> tiger issued 75 strokes back going to final round adams got in great shape to win his first major. he sinks the long birdie putt he is 11 under for tournament. gramm mcdowell in the final pairing in the u.s. open sand position tomorrow four shots behind scott tiger is focused on golf not meet urology. >>> i know the forecast want to end will see what happens whether the wind blows are not i still have to go out there and post the round i need to post and execute my plan. the giants have their struggles this season but not on this trip the have a chance to return home winning 5/6 the battle of all-star pitchers matt cain and call hamill's. matt cain connects for his first homer of the year to tied at one but tamils hitches first career homer in the bottom of the third the first time opposing pitchers have had home run since 1990. buster posey rips a single, ryan theriot by around to score posey had f

usher's 11-year-old stepson kirk glover died over the weekend. 2 weeks ago he was run over by a personalaft. >>> the jackson family is breathing a sigh of relief today after finding out the mother of the late michael jackson is okay. saturday catherine jackson was reported missing after her grandz children were unable to get in touch with her. yesterday her son germane tweeted to fans his mother was fine resting in arizona. the missing report came days after a dispute between her and her children over finances and legal affairs. >>> scientists in california are making way with a bio engineered jelly fish. it pumps water like a heart pumps blood and could lead to the reverse engineering of human organs and save lives. it can be useful for testing new drugs for heart patients. >>> still ahead on wjz eyewitness news at noon, a humid day out there. temperatures are going up. marty has your first weather warning forcaste. ing -- forecast. >> first here's another look at today's midday stocks. at sleep number, individualizing your sleep is at the heart of every innovation. with the sleep numbe

. >> a test that excluded kirk odom. >> it was a joyous moment and very joyous. >> reporter: they began looking into hair analysis and exonerated in a rape and murder and two weeks ago, the murder convention of tribble was thrown out after dna testing showed that what support him to prison was wrong. he said that he's blessed and shared what he learned from the terrible ordeal. >> innocent, maintain your innocence. true, be patient. three, it may seem like a storm but it will pass on through. god is good. >> reporter: and now, the rest of the story. additional testing done on dna found at the crime 16 identified another person, a convicted sex offender. the man is not charged because the statute of limitations has run out. brian? >> paul wagner tonight. >> a news alert in the district. a woman connected to mayor vincent gray claims illicit what made the shadow campaign sinister is how it was paid for. the shadow campaign was entirely off of the books. finance was secret, corporate money so the d.c. voter his no idea who was influenceing them at the ballot box. >> reporter: the u.s. atto

kirk lynn, jason henson, jim worshall, and julia sullivan. if you are ready. >> the one thing i have not heard from the developer is how many units they are going to ask for, because the last three projects that have been in this area, -- they are with the low income housing. we need a low-income housing. i live at 158, and i have seen, just on my walk here, passing by this project, 27 homeless people. camping out, in doorsteps. on the street itself because there is not enough low-income, housing. in the area and in san francisco in general. we keep letting them -- we will just move this off to the next development. i asked this body to say, until they tell you exactly how many low-income housing slots that there will be in this -- did not allow for this to go forward. >> speakers who i have called. if you are ready. >> good afternoon. i am a 36-year homeowner and resident -- and i am concern about the density of this project, and i would affirm the need for housing -- and i am curious how the density of this project contrasts to the density

>>> i'm v kirks c carter. >> and i'm denise koch. we begin with weather coverage. >> let go to bob turk. >> look at the radar just to the east of our region. earlier don't, we had very heavy rains with and we still have a flash flood warning for much of baltimore county and the city. right now, it's off to the east of the city. heavy activity toward earlville and just east of the bay there. another batch across northeastern maryland. it's moving off today. for the rest of tonight, maybe a few more showers. there's still a watch in effect for hartford, pg county until 1 a.m. the flash flood warning for the city took effect until 2 a.m. we will see more storms into the weekend. i'll have the forecast in a few minutes. >>> a manhunt is on for the gunman who kidnapped cal ripkin's mother and held hers to damage for nearly 26 hours. police need your help to find out who he is and we he abducted vi rbi companionship. >> reporter: police have released this flier and w surveillance picture of man they say aa ducted vi ripkin. >> reporter: th

>> oh, um, -- a man named jeff guillen kirk. david wagner and katy clice they are in i think is her last name. >> and how long was that meeting that you had with the bay guardian reporters? >> it was about a little over an hour. >> ok. so sheriff i want to read you a short passage from that story, and you can tell me whether it's accurate or not. >> please. >> ok. now this is referring to what happened after you found out about the police investigation from your wife. and a series of contexts. >> objection. >> sustained. >> sheriff, i'll simply read this passage and you can tell me whether it's true or not. >> objection. lack of foundation. >> sustained, council, you haven't established what it is. there's no foundation. >> can we establish -- can you establish what the document is? we haven't seen it. witness hasn't seen it. i mean, we have no idea what you're reading from. >> i'm not offering this into evidence. i just want the witness' telling me whether this is true or not. i'm not offering the document. >> that's fine but i

>> kirk douglas: come on, mike. >> stahl: here he is with actor kirk douglas in 1992. >> wallace: you reputation as a real horse's behind. even your own kids said that you were very difficult. >> douglas: they didn't say i was a horse's ass, did they? >> wallace: no, they did not. >> stahl: who besides mike wallace would start an interview by saying, "people say you're a horse's behind?" i mean, wow. >> wallace: they know who i am and what kind of questions i might... >> stahl: they've walked into the den. >> wallace: oh, absolutely. >> stahl: and they know it. >> wallace: why do they do it? >> stahl: they think they can beat you. >> wallace: that's correct. >> stahl: not many did. mike got to hang out with johnny carson in 1979 for carson's only in-depth television profile. >> johnny carson: why are you doing this now? i'm not running a boiler room operation, i have no phony real estate scams, i'm not taking any kickbacks... >> stahl: it was pleasant and innocuous enough, until carson mentioned his rule about never joking on "the tonight show" about people's drinking problems. >> wal