and jordan williamson will trot out. >> kirk: maybe he likes the left hash. maybe he doesn't like the middle. >> brent: time-out called by chip kelly. >> referee: first and only time-out of the overtime period. >> brent: so, chip kelly well not even be able to freeze the kicker if he was thinking about it, using his time-out right now and jordan williamson, a sophomore from austin, texas, went to westwood high school in austin, will come on. see if he cannot only dump oregon out of the bcs championship picture but elevate the fighting irish to number one and put the southeastern conference very much back in the thick of things and wind up in miami. here we go. 37-yarder. from the left hash. long enough for sure. and good. stanford takes down oregon. number one and number two both lose. for the first time since 2007. and the cardinal celebrate. remarkable performance by these youngsters and i'm sure the oregon fans are absolutely shocked at what they have seen here tonight. >> kirk: i know the story nationally will about about oregon losing but a huge win for

>> kirk: a bunch. i can't remember. >> brent: the coaches won't consider the defense of oregon state? >> kirk: they will do what they do every week. if number one loses, who is at two. the bcs, remember, two-thirds of the bcs is the coaches poll and the harris poll. if alabama loses, oregon has a shot to go past notre dame and kansas state. >> brent: wow. mr. herbstriet is out on that duck limb! >> kirk: we will see. >> brent: i'm saying kansas state is staying number two after this performance. >> kirk: staying at two? and oregon to one, they will stay at two. >> brent: ha ha! i had your crimson tide coming back! good one, though. let's check in with heather. >> heather: bill, congratulations. 9-0 and undefeated. first time you or anybody on your team has beaten oklahoma state. what does it mean for the program to get over that hump? >> i've been here for a long time so we have won a game or two against oklahoma state. >> heather: in your second stint, nobody on this team has done it. >> i don't know.

to turn around kirk's so-called sissy behavior, kirk was repeatedly asked to choose between traditionally masculine toys like plastic knives and guns or feminine ones like dolls and a play crib. if he chose the feminine items, kirk's mother would be told to ignore him. kirk's siblings told anderson his outgoing personality changed as a result of the therapy. >> he had no idea how to relate to people. it's like somebody just walked up and turned his light switch off. >> reporter: george considered kirk a success story, writing his feminine behavior was gone, proof, he said, that homosexuality can be prevented. kirk's family says he was gay and never recovered from the attempts to turn him straight. in 2003, kirk took his own life. he hanged himself from a fan in his apartment. he was 38. our producers tracked george riekers down in florida. what do you say to the family? they say the therapy you did to him as a child led to the suicide as an adult. >> i would say scientifically that would be inaccurate to assume that it was the therapy, but i do grieve for the parents now that you've told

randi belisomo was there when kirk reached the top. >> he has not been seen publicly since his stroke in january. it was to benefit the rehabilitation institute of chicago where he has undergone extensive therapy. he said, "i'm here where's the beer?" >> we have seen it so much progress since he first came here to us... he has just done amazing things >> no word if the senator will return to washington. his medical team says his progress thus far is remarkable. >> it started with just taking a few steps >> senator kirk wasn't the only "stair-master" facing a physical challenge today. 31-year-old zac vawter made the full 103 floor climb while wearing a groundbreaking prosthetic leg controlled by his thoughts. vawter's right leg was amputated after a 20-09 motorcycle accident. his surgeon repositioned the exposed nerves to new spots in his hamstring, "rewiring" the nerves for future prosthetic use. vawter has been working with the rehabilitation institute of chicago in testing the device. now he just needs to think "climb stairs" and the leg responds accordingly. >> i go up the stairs j

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she lived with kirk's daughter. today's hearing is at 2:00 at the santa clara county courthouse in san jose. >>> also this morning a court hearing for former school district leader standing accused of embezzling more than $100,000 to remodel his house. this morning, the court is looking into how timothy hanready will repay the portola valley school district. he used the money to personally remodel his house in woodside. >>> still ahead at 11:00, why republican leaders are accusing united nations ambassador susan rice of misleading the public about the deadly attack in benghazi. and how president obama is firing back. >>> and a family's home robbed of more than just their possessions. they were also ripped off of a very special friend. what they're doing to try and find their cute little puppy. >>> end of a very short era. we'll tell you about it in business. >>> the affair between general david petraeus and paula broadwell may have involved top secret documents. we've learned petraeus will now testify on capitol hil

when the owner caught up with kirk, he delivered his own version of street justice. he tackled kirk, beat him so badly, the bicycle thief was left with two black eyes, several cuts, one of which required stitches. the sun sentinel reports that he was making a citizens arrest and did not use excessive force. >>> holiday shopping goes high-tech. coming up, is it really safe to pay using your cell phone and other mobile devices? >>> my mommy is having a seizure. i thought i could call you guys. >> the quick thinking 4-year-old girl who saved her mom's life. >>> thanksgiving is less than a week away now. and we're getting geared up for our annual food for families food drive. all day on monday. today, the magnet nurses at georgetown university hospital are in the midst of their annual campaign to collect cans for the drive. >> you know it's thanksgiving when these nurses at georgetown hospital get busy collecting cans. >> yea! >> it's a collecting marathon. the goal? 7,200 cans in 72 hours. >> we've had donations from patients of families who come through because we're t

the reverend danny kirk died after eric burdow crashed his car to the side of the house and killed theth an electric guitar. the widow was unable to speak but wrote a letter to the copping gays which her cousin read. >> i can't we gwynn to say. i'm torn. my fares goes out to my first lady and church family. i love each and every one of you. if you are questioning what prompted it to happen, it's okay. but don't linger there too long because if you linger there too long, then hatred will set in. >> pastor kirk's widow says she's already forgivenrdow for what he has done. >>> mitt romney and the campaign trail while the president toured the hurricane devastation mitt romney targeted young voters. >> the young voters need to recognize you will neat to vote for people who will finally tame the deficit and get america on track to a balanced budget . >> both candidate planned to hit all the swing states. romney's final rally is set for monday night in new hampshire >>> early voters are reporting some problems in north carolina and ohio. they say they chose mitt romney on the stuff screen but

. >> reporter: kirk and others ran outside to help. >> we heard people yelling. we want in. pulled out two daughters and then the head was trapped under a lot of tebrae. got him -- debris and then the wife was trapped in the recliner and got her out. >> reporter: everyone is a counted for. some residents -- accounted for. some residents have been told they can go back. >>> a 20-year-old woman, a 1- year-old boy and two dogs pulled from a burning duplex at 10 clock last night. it started in an outside garbage can and spread to the house. six tenants have been left homeless. >>> elder care facility two people died after a care maker picked wild mushrooms and made soup with them. among those treated is in her 90s. they are calling the deaths an unfortunate accident. >>> checking headlines, the mother accused of using her 10- year-old daughter to shoplift couldepter a plea on tuesday. she left her daughter at a safe way in september and a band oned her. she told the authorities she sufficient erred from mental illness. >>> >> tomorrow marks the end. cooling temperatures, rain th

transparency, set of regulations that will protect the public and settle down all the hysteria and kirkfuror about fracking. i did it when i was a kid diyala this. how do we get past that fear and uncertainty and create some sort of predictability to business needs? that became a symbol for our issues. to find the appropriate compromise so we can get on to the next problem. >> would you like to bring us up-to-date on california? maybe give us a sneak preview of the may revise briefly. >> where selling bonds and we're not disclosing materials between now and then. we just have to wait. it will be interesting. that i promise you. the basic fact is california increased its production of wealth, the state of 38 million people and all businesses. the economy is somewhat under $2 trillion. there is dynamic wealth creation in many respects. since the time i was last governor, a lot of people and businesses have moved elsewhere or the have died, gone out of business. also, a lot of people have moved here by the millions. we have 38 million people. people thought the green was here a and we have

---la fiscalia asegura que "sadiq" agredio a yvonne kirk, con el machete hasta quitarle la vida, y despues la policia que habian sido agredidas por un hombre. topvo cesar ----se declaro no culpable de homicidio, barton williams, el sospechoso de haber quemado a su esposa el pasado mes de abirl en san jose... ----segun la fiscalia, el 16 de abril, agentes de policia y bomberos acudieron a la residencia de la victima para cerciorarse de su bienestar, pero encontraron a patricia storey de 64 aÑos, tirada en el suelo con quemaduras graves... ---la victima murio al dia siguiente y williams fue arrestado el 18 de abril... blanca --se reportan varios incendios en la ciudad de vallejo que podrian haber sido intencionales. take map ---el primer siniestro de 2 alarmas ocurrio alrededor de las 8 y media de la noche de ayer en una casa ubicada en la calle alabama. ---el segundo ocurrio 6 horas mas tardes en un bar ubicado sobre la calle "tuo-lomne". ---y poco despues de las 7 de la maÑana de hoy, un tercer incendio se reporto en una clinica para mascotas. ---segun el departamento de bomberos, las 3 ed

---la fiscalia asegura que "sadiq" agredio a yvonne kirk, con el machete hasta quitarle la vida, y despuesidas por un hombre. blanca --se reportan varios incendios en la ciudad de vallejo que podrian haber sido intencionales. take map ---el primer siniestro de 2 alarmas ocurrio alrededor de las 8 y media de la noche de ayer en una casa ubicada en la calle alabama. ---el segundo ocurrio 6 horas mas tardes en un bar ubicado sobre la calle "tuo-lomne". ---y poco despues de las 7 de la maÑana de hoy, un tercer incendio se reporto en una clinica para mascotas. ---segun el departamento de bomberos, las 3 edificaciones estaban sin ocupantes por lo que no hubo heridos. cesar ---surgen nuevos reportes de personas muertas por consumir bebidas energticas. pitch - blanca ---en esta ocasin, 13 muertes que posiblemente involucran a la bebida "5- hour energy". ---jaime peluffo nos trae el informe.. jaime. 0:01 0:06 0:27 0:32 0:45 0:49 0:55 1:10 1:48 take pkg podria llamarse un caballito, pero de cafeina. segn la administracin de alimentos y medicinas, en los ltimos 4 aÑos, han recibido 13 reportes de mue

five, seth kirk, his little birth. helps duke beat georgia state, 74-65. four, maryland, 77-69. three, yukon, michigan state, all about the spar tans -- spartans, upset the huskies, 66-62. two, georgia, florida, held up by condone says. they had to -- condone dsation. and also the ohio state and march marquette cas was canceled as well because of condensation, as >>> have a great weekend. veterans day on monday. >> david letterman is coming up next. >> thank you.

josh kirk firing at the hills when skilled. michael scuza running into deliver ammo.legos, vernon and mace were also killed trying to help their fellow troops. >> if i wasn't where i was, could i have done what the men did? and i don't think i could have. >> reporter: at one point insurgents infiltrated the camp but with courage and air support the men of outpost keating beat the enemy back. within days the u.s. abandoned the base. and bombed it back to dust. the pentagon later did its own investigation and admitted at the time there was no tactical or strategic purpose for the outpost. >> at the end of the day was it worth it do you think, combat outpost keating being there? >> i don't want to say it wasn't worth it. i feel it takes away from what we did. >> it is a complicated area. hate to say we occupied the area for three years and didn't accomplish nothing. i hate to say that or think that. >> reporter: a question that gnaws at many survivors of the outpost and those who lov t

you could win a trip to the allstate sugar bowl, where you'll kick for a chance to meet kirk herbstreitmotorcycle, truck, and rv. january 2nd is gonna be mayhem. will you be there? enter at allstatecfb.com. [ birds chirping ] are you sure you can fit in there? [ chuckles ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] around view monitor with bird's-eye view. nice work. [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new nissan pathfinder. it's our most innovative pathfinder ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ >> verne: 7:20 to go in the game. go back over this series, gary, big plays in the fourth quarter. >> gary: you remember chad jones gets a sack and a fumble. johnson with the interception. remember the interception that wasn't by patrick peterson? the big sack and fumble by mcelroy. what will happen this year and eric reid last year in this football game in the fourth quarter. who will make the big play in the fourth quarter this time. >> verne: i go back to the top of the telecast and you said mettenberger has to come up big. 9 of his last 10 and played suberbly. >> gary: absolutely. you won't beat alabama

because it is so counterfactual, so unlikely to ever kirk, and clearly it is conjured up in order to justify certain behaviors. again, the reality is that when you are renting terrorist it is very rare that you have someone who is a confirmed terrorist. very read the you have a confirmed terrorist to really does, and you know he does, have an active part of this kind of sort that you describe. and then, of course, even if you do have all those variables isolated, there is no telling that he will actually tell you the truth if you torture him. if he doesn't go into shock, if he doesn't like you, and again to mahdi has to do is live you for all of it until the bomb goes off. so i think the smartest play for estate agent is to invest in other modes of intelligence gathering at that point and to invest in non course of interrogation techniques that largely to work, don't have the liability issues, and don't destroy people's rights as well. it. >> what kind of freedom did you have, academic freedom. the u.s. naval academy? he taught at the university of chicago. do you have the same freed

. >>> in chicago, senator mark kirk of illinois we're a brace on his left leg as he climbed 37 floors in the sky rise chicago charity event in the willis tower, the tallest building in the united states. it was the senator's first public appearance since suffering a major stroke in january. >>> a 31-year-old amputee climbed all 103 flights of stairs in the same charity fundraiser. zack votter was testing a high-tech experimental bionic leg controlled by his mind. >>> checking out some sports now. atlanta is still the only undefeated team in the nfl. the falcons scored a fourth quarter touchdown. later kicked a field goal and held off the dallas cowboys to wrap up their eighth win, 19-13. colts quarterback andrew luck set an nfl rookie record of 433 yards passing with two touchdowns as indianapolis beat miami 23-20. and the washington redskins lost their last home game before the election to the carolina panthers 21-13. the so called redskins rule. it might mean that mitt romney will be elected president. the redskins loss prediction has been correct 17 out of 18 times. in college foot

. >>> santa clara's kevin roster broke kirk ram ise >>> two years ago, he was cut by the new york mets. tonight, r.a. dickey is the cy young award winner in the national league for the new york mets! 38 years of age, he's the first knuckleballer in history to win the award. clayton kershaw, the dodgers second. washington gio gonzalez finished third. and price of tampa bay won the american league cy young award. david price winning the al cy. >>> all signs point toward alex smith starting versus chicago on monday night. he was on the field today wearing a "don't touch me" jersey. he passed all his concussion tests. and he says i'm feeling pretty good. >> just going along in the process right now. nothing has been decided. this is a long process. doing what they tell me, and moving along. contact obviously i think is the final straw. but yeah, i was able to go out there today and had the black jersey on me which was a little redundant. but i felt good out there. >> and the 49ers are off sunday because the game is on monday. an extra day for smith to get ready. >>> san jose, sports hall o

kirk wood opened 45% of its terrain and five lifts yesterday.week the sierra is expected to see more snow, which is going to allow several more resorts to open. boy, they are ready for that business, lisa. >> yeah, it's been high elevation snow, about 7,000 feet. the first system once again will be on the mild side. but as we head out right now we have chilly spots. this is the bay bridge, what we can see from the bay bridge. looking at lots of fog out there. 7:01 is the official sunrise is setting 4:53. obviously the fog a big problem around the bay with the light winds and we are talking about it really from the north to south. and right now sfo not a problem but that will change likely in the next hour or so. so live doppler 7 hd showing the sweep on top of mount saint helena. still a couple dry days before we pick up some rain from our next system that promises not only the rain, but some pretty good wind, as well. so first things first. look at the difference between the numbers. in napa, 36. 50 down in san jose with 40 in livermore. but ev

you could win a trip to the allstate sugar bowl, where you'll kick for a chance to meet kirk herbstreitmotorcycle, truck, and rv. january 2nd is gonna be mayhem. will you be there? enter at allstatecfb.com. [ birds chirping ] are you sure you can fit in there? [ chuckles ] ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] around view monitor with bird's-eye view. nice work. [ male announcer ] introducing the all-new nissan pathfinder. it's our most innovative pathfinder ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ >> verne: 7:20 to go in the game. go back over this series, gary, big plays in the fourth quarter. >> gary: you remember chad jones gets a sack and a fumble. johnson with the interception. remember the interception that wasn't by patrick peterson? the big sack and fumble by mcelroy. what will happen this year and eric reid last year in this football game in the fourth quarter. who will make the big play in the fourth quarter this time. >> verne: i go back to the top of the telecast and you said mettenberger has to come up big. 9 of his last 10 and played suberbly. >> gary: absolutely. you won't beat alabama

she did live with kirk's daughter. today's hearing starts at 2:00 in the santa clara county courthouse in san jose. >>> students at uc schools are waking up early this morning to demand the regents stop raising tuition. dozens of students camped out overnight at ucsf. the board has a second day of meetings today. that's where christie smith joins us live with more on what the university wants and why students say it is just not fair. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. we're seeing uc police driving around and about 35 students are camping inside the quad. they have been here since yesterday. they say that they're going to hit the picket line in just a little while and advance the last day of the uc regents meeting where governor jerry brown made a very rare appearance this week and told the regents that they were going to have to make some heroic moves to save money. students are upset and a little confused that california voters passed proposition 30 bringing in more tax dollars but they're facing the pos

abc2 news kirk union key is outside that hospital. >> it's power is out. they had backup generators, they thought they'd be oak but they realized the flooding was worse than anticipated. they had to evacuate patients and relocate them to other hospitals in the area. it's been quite the process. i want to show you a couple scenes along the jersey shore that we found. take a look at this. this is reed's beach, it was destroyed by this hurricane. some homes had entire rooms ripped off, couches thrown across the neighborhood, and you can imagine people really in awe just looking at this. and then further up new jersey, take a look at this, boats picked up by the hurricane and thrown across this marina. 40 to 50 boats here destroyed. i talked to one boat owner as he was taking a look at some of the damage. >> it's absolutely devastating. i've never seen anything -- you can't even imagine, you know. it's like a bomb went off. >> a lot of people trying to figure out where to start the process of cleaning things up is what's happening this morning, and the power s

she lived with kirk's daughter. today's hearing is at 2:00 at the santa clara county courthouse in san jose. >>> this morning a court hearing for a former school district leader accused of embezzling more than $100,000 to remodel his house. they will look into how he will repay the portola school district. he turned in fake invoices to the district's solar panel fund and used that money instead to remodel his woodside home. >>> happening right now, students at uc schools are waking up early this morning to demand the board of regents stop raising tuition. dozens camping out overnight at ucsf where the board has its second day of meetings. christie smith just talked to one of those students this morning. what are they saying out there? >> reporter: good morning to you. i can tell you they are very excited, about 35 students are camping out. they have been here since yesterday. they have their picket signs and are waking up this morning. they plan to go into that regents meeting that starts about 8:30 this morning at

. >> two other men donald gates and kirk odom who were convicted and exonerated later have both received their certificate of innocence. the spokesperson for d.c. superior court says judge cordero could not comment on a pending case. >>> thanksgiving still a week away, people talking about holiday shopping. we have tips to make sure you spend wisely. >> and so far, so good in the weather department when it comes to the run-up to thanksgiving. some clouds are around tonight and light sprinkles. i'll let you know if they'll be out of here for friday. come on back. the news edge at 11:00 continues. s  >>> studies show many of you will be spending more this holiday season, but we have some online shopping safety tips. shawn yancy has your fox 5 top five. >> up first tonight, brian, why you might want to pass on some of those traditional holiday cocktails this year. no. 5, you could eliminate an extra 100 calories from your daily diet by laying off alcoholic beverages. dietary guidelines recommend people consume alcohol in moderation, which is one drink a day fo

permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. 6a, jason lindley and dba bacchus kirk and billiard permit application. nick. >> this one is on the consent agenda and billiard table and one table in a neighborhood bar. >> welcome applicant. >> yeah. we are applying for one pool table. >> it's consent calendar. i move to approve. >> okay. >> commissioner. >> aye. >> commissioner. >> aye. >> commissioner. >> aye. >> commissioner. >> aye. >> commissioner. >> aye. >> president. >> aye. good luck. >> thank you very much. >> thank you for coming in. item 6b richard miyashiro, dba hakkasan. one kearney place and application. >> i am michael -- [inaudible] and i am the director and richard couldn't be here and yes we're going to be operating -- >> can you talk -- >> you're too tall for the mic. >> it's primarily a restaurant. we're a london base company and have a small dj station and have dj's from 7:00 p.m. until one in the morning for our guests only. >> okay. any questions from the commission? >> you're saying on the application the program is programmed from london or prer

. >>> mark kirk of illinois wore a brace on his left leg as he climbed 37 floors in the sky rise chicagont. it was the senator's first public appearance since suffering a major stroke in january. >>> and the 31-year-old amputee climbed all 103 flights of stairs in the same charity fund-raiser. zack was testing a high-tech experimental bionic leg controlled by his mind. absolutely incredible. >>> in sports now, atlanta is still the only undefeated team in the nfl. the falcons scored a fourth quarter touchdown, later kicked a field goal and held off the dallas cowboys to wrap up their eighth win, 19-13. colts quarterback andrew luck set an nfl rookie record of 433 yards passing with 2 touchdowns. as indianapolis beat miami 23-20. and the washington redskins lost their last home game before the election to the carolina panthers, 21-13. the so-called redskins rule prediction might mean that mitt romney will be elected president. the redskins prediction has been correct 17 out of 18 times. >>> college football, alabama held on to the top spot in the bcs standing after pulling out a win over l

just outside of new york city, kirk i know that you started out here in maryland over on kent island and made your way through new jersey. give us an idea of how bad it is and the things you've seen along the way. >> reporter: well, here in hoboken they're dealing with power outages and flood waters which have receded. we made our way up the jersey shore and saw some pretty unbelievable things. we stopped in cape may, a beach called reed's beach. we saw homes decimated by the storm, entire living rooms ripped off the back of the home, unbelievable stuff, and further north of new jersey we found a marina that had also been destroyed by the storm, boats tossed around like toys, probably a good 30 to 40 boats destroyed. i talked to at least one boater out there who said he couldn't believe his eyes. he could not believe what he was seeing. many people describing it the same way from reed's beach to that marina. they're saying it looks like a bomb blew off and just destroyed everything in its path. back here in hoboken, the army national guard behind america you can see their trucks. the

permits under the jurisdiction of the entertainment commission. 6a, jason lindley and dba bacchus kirk and billiard permit

here with me today is kirk johnson, to my left, vice president of gas transmissions from pacific gas and electric. next to him is don boland, executive director of california utilities emergency association. next to him is david brig, regional and local water system manager for the san francisco public utilities commission and finally but not least, romel an jell lus, manager for san francisco wireless. i have drafted several questions for our panel to answer and will hopefully have time at the end to take questions from the audience. before we start our panel discussion, i wanted it share with you what we are doing in san francisco to advance our lifeline's resilence we are the first major u.s. city to (inaudible) post katrina where he saw firsthand where a critical role these systems played in the city's recovery. i am honored to chair the council because i feel it's crucial that the public sector work side by side with our private sector partners to do everything we can today to ensure we will meet the needs of our residents in the days, weeks and years after a disaster. the objec

my name is kirk means from the former building inspection services and i'm here to introduce you to the proposed administrative bulletin, new administrative bulletin, bulletin number ab 105, voluntary sprinkler protection for existing high-rise buildings. through the tireless efforts of jerry cunningham, he's a local fire protection engineer and appointee by you people to the code advisory committee for 15 years or so, he put together this administrative bulletin that will give some opportunities to customers that have needs related to it. what ab 105 does is it provides voluntary process for documenting a fully sprinklered building. it's basically administrative permit that puts into the public record that this is a fully sprinklered building. i'll explain why that's important in a minute. many high-rise buildings in san francisco were built without sprinkler systems over the years. it wasn't a requirement by california until about i think somewhere around the early '70s. so, in 1993 the san francisco passed an ordinance to retrofit certain types of buildings with sprinklers. it was a

josh kirk, michael scusa, chris griffin, josh hardt, verve mon martin and stephon mace.were stationed at that doomed outp t outpost, at the bottom of three steep mountains, just 14 miles from the pakistan border. >> it was in a very, very bad place. it was unfightable. we did what we could to fight off the enemy, but as a result of where we were at, made it very difficult for us to fight. >> reporter: it turns out that a peng investigation later concluded by mid-2009, there was no tactical or strategic value to the outpost. but so many had paid the ultimate price, including the man named for the post. these are the special men and women that make up our armed services. so, today, as we think about all those who served, and those lost, including the eight killed that horrible october day, think also of those left behind. the children who will never know their fathers and mothers, in the name of protecting you and me. >> as you wrote, jake, uncommon valor. >> reporter: it really is uncommon. and i've been covering the war in afghanistan, and iraq, from the comfort of the n