com. >> new york senator kirsten gillibrand is back with us.e politics of the era. so now it's part of the constitution. it is. give us the give us the 32nd pitch on this. >> so what president biden did is on behalf of his administration, he has essentially published the equal rights amendment, has told the states, you now have to enforce this law. that should have been done by the archivist in 2020, but he chose not to do it. and this current archives also chose not to do it. it's a ministerial job. they're supposed to do their job regardless of who's president, regardless of their own view of the world. and so president biden has sidestepped the archivist, has made a public statement that this is now part of the constitution. article five only requires two things to be done to make a constitutional amendment. two thirds of the house and senate have to vote for it. that happened in the 70s, and three quarters of the states have to ratify it. the last state to ratify the 38th state was virginia in 2020. so arguably this has been part of the con

well, mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, thank you for watching hope to see her again on the world's a part. the as the year ends, the incoming trump administration continues to believe it can end the conflict in ukraine. trump, and as people are beginning to understand and in this conflict is more difficult in starting a war. the problem is moscow cube, and washington wants different outcomes. the in february 2022, ukraine became the world's number one new story for ukraine, new brand, new credit, a brand new crane question. truth invaded ukraine, named one perspective ukraine suffering from russian english and replacing the main stream media and the nightly news were citing. please develop the scripts that essentially say exactly the same thing using the buzz word. so this is a threat to our democracy. when you see 10 different channels, say exactly that sentence. you know that it's the central intelligence agency script. the role of p r firms in ukraine, throughout europe and into united states really can be oversta

well, um mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, thank you for watching hope to hear again on the world's a part, the other on many places in the world where you can say you're on the divide between the 2 oceans and the you might not think kids. what does this, hey, and what is northern or found guest vision in the can or is that us national park? and today we know the stuff was i'm taking a deep side interest, which because of the, the outgoing us secretary of state said miss flooding. you'd crane with weapons long before the 2022 conflict broke out. and that's this fight forcing things. suppose it pro peace thumbs up the time. we saw it coming. we were able to make sure that not only we prepared analysing partners are prepared with ukraine, was prepared. we quietly got a lot of weapons to, to ukraine, to make sure that they had in hand. but they needed to defend themselves, things like sting or traveling. so that they could use go by and raised his eyebrows by owner and hillary clinton and george soros with the highest us ci

well, mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, thank you for watching hope to see her again. on the world's a part. the the at the end of the 18th century, britain began by illegal opium, afraid in china. this hard drug causing addiction and literally destroying the human body became a gold mine, or businessman from the foggy l. b. a. however, the ruling chinese gene dynasty tried to resist and to stop the illegal trade, which provoked the wrath of the london business community. in 1840 without a declaration of war, the english fleet began to seize and plunder chinese coastal boards. the bar li are dead. poorly trained chinese army was unable to provide adequate resistance. the jing empire was forced to hand hong, gone over to england, and open it sports for trading the legal good. in 1856, france and the united states joined in the robbery of china. the anglo french troops defeated the chinese occupied basie and committed an unprecedented robbery. destroyed and blundered the wealth of the un menu one palace. the defeat of t

well, um mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, and thank you for watching hope this erin young and wells, a part the the, the russian correspondence has killed and 4 of his colleagues wounded by you premium, which struck the cost of doing it to the public. power drawing detector is also constantly beeping. you can hear the sounds of explosions, reports from a residential area also in don't bonds that's being hit by ukrainian plus the impulse wounding at least 10 k was a problem in the making with us intelligence sol. plan for some 15 years with a question of how it happened roommate, the mystery. looking back on 2024, exploding to electronic device is left a dozen dead across 11 on and stokes the weld. the attack.

well, mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, thank you for watching hope to see her again on the world's a part, the know better place to be is the village in the sun? this beautiful features is purely anarchist in the sense that there are no authorities within the city. everyone is their own citizen. half the people are here because of their notice. go and the other half here because they loved the place and there's nowhere else they'd rather be in here. but i don't know his ard wonder explain. you just have to experience labs, and by doing that, you have to live here the dish they have right here in lagrange. this is one of the dining halls. it was a mess all for you know, soldiers boot place, you know, several 100 people have passed through here either under way, somewhere else or provide safe space to abuse women and to elderly people to mentally ill peoples who addicts to children. you know, some cardboard checks, you know? but the cardboard shack is broke up for you. you just been sleeping on the dirt. what are the b

kirsten hillman is canada's ambassador to the united states and she joins us now.sador, welcome. >> thank you. >> let me ask you about these comments. what is your response to those comments and how are they resonating in canada? . >> canadians to your second question have enjoyed a little bit of teasing back and forth for a while. there's a pivot more recently that's been a bit tougher and i think that's probably landing less well but what really matters here is that the president-elect is a negotiator and is trying to set the stage for a discussion and clearly once a discussion with us around things that matter to him like the border and perhaps other issues around the economy. we are ready for that discussion and i think it's important not to confuse some of the dynamics of setting himself up for that discussion and the substance that has to come next. amna: you called it teasing. we mentioned after prime minister trudeau announced he was stepping down that trump said he -- was doubling down on that language. he's talking about buying greenland, controlling the

kirsten. kirsten nielsen, she was the, you know, department of homeland security. tweeted, we do not have a policy of separating families at the border. period. jacob. was that true or not true back then? >> no, that was not true. and, you know, self-deception might be a generous description of what she was doing there. they knew exactly what they were doing and what errol morris lays out in almost a forensic collision. >> you could also call it a lie. >> can i ask you both another question? because you do bring it up. and some of the officials talk about it. the. administration, openly or amongst themselves, used this policy because they believed that it was a deterrent and that was their philosophy, that was their political imperative. so why, errol? >> see, i don't believe it. i actually don't believe they might have sold it as a deterrent, but i think its main purpose was a dog whistle to the base, to their followers to show those followers. look how mean we can be. look how cruel we can be. look how tough we can be with immigrants. to me, that was the main pur

and on sunday we'll talk to senator kirsten. kirsten gillibrand. that's starting at 8 a.m. eastern both saturday and sunday. and on sunday night, we will be with you for special hour ahead of inauguration day. that's at 9 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. all in with chris hayes starts right now. >> tonight on all in. >> we begin with the supreme court issuing a unanimous ruling, clearing the way for tiktok to be banned in the u.s. starting on sunday. >> welcome to the new trump era. >> i could have banned tiktok. i had it banned just about i could have gotten it done. frankly, there are a lot of people on tiktok that love it. >> how today's tiktok decision benefits the looming trump oligarchy i want to thank president trump for his commitment to work with us to find a solution that keeps tiktok available in the united states. then, as the inauguration moves inside, trump plans for day one and the resistance planning to challenge him. >> he says, you're not going to be a dictator, are you? >> i said, no, no, no, other than day one. >> plus, new reporting on rfk jr and his a

. >> and democratic senator gillibrand, kirsten gillibrand of new york joins me now on capitol hill. senator, this is been a busy week with south dakota governor noem capping off the latest hearing for president elect trump's cabinet nominees. you sit on the senate armed services committee, you questioned defense secretary nominee pete hegseth earlier this week. let's take a listen. >> do you agree anybody should be able to serve in the military if they meet the standards? >> senator, as the president has stated, i don't disagree with the overturn of don't ask, don't tell. >> great. because i don't want you thinking can't serve if you're a mom, can't serve if you're lgbtq. >> and then last can't serve if you're a leftist. >> so i don't sense that you're going to vote for hegseth. but i wonder, it appears that all of trump's nominees who have had hearings so far will be confirmed. do you agree? >> i think that's generally true. there's a couple who i don't yet know. if all republicans support. i don't think some of the nominees have had the chance to meet with all republicans yet. but

prepared for the quotes . disruptive politics of us president elect w's chief political edison. mikayla kirsten. is that the very and see us you policy amazing and the southern germantown of the on and she told us more about what the dash, matt said. absolutely. i mean one look at the polls. his cd, you sees you around 30 percent, the strongest policy he is according to the polls, the most likely mind to become the next time slot. and that's why we immediately put those questions about the disruption that donald trump is already announcing to him. and he basically onset on the very issue of regulation of when it comes to social media here. of course, the loan mosque seen as interfering a recommending for germans to vote for the far right alternative for germany policies. we saw facebook and now and so meant to announce that then no longer will be fact checking, wanting less regulation. and that is something i expect it to be a demand on the table from the top to administration. and here we have some believe those math. so off of question on what he tends to do, does he stick buying european reg

well, mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, i'm thank you for watching hope to see her again. on the world's a part, the, the i'm going us secretary of state to admit flooding ukraine with weapons before the current conflict has even begun that despite washington, suppose it pro peace stumps. up the time we quietly got a lot of weapons to, to ukraine, to make sure that they hadn't had what they needed to defend themselves. things like stingers travelling so that they could use germany's foreign minister a passions women's rights. on her recent trip to syria. only for the countries to how this leader to refuse to shit, hurts with local media. also flooring on the lena per box image in photos of the me take the officials in the break away european regional trends and eastern coal for alternative ways to get brush.

well, um mr. kirsten, we have to leave it there, but thank you very much for being with us today. okay, thank you for watching hope this erin young on wells, the part the as the year ends, the incoming trump administration continues to believe it can end the conflict in ukraine. trump and his people are beginning to understand. and in this conflict is more difficult in starting a war. the problem is moscow cube, and washington wants different outcomes. the russian correspondence is hilda and 4 of his colleagues wounded by a ukrainian rowing, which struck the call on its own. yet with public highway, also a head power. drones at that sir, is also constantly beating. you can hear the sounds of explosions. we report from a residential area also in don't bounce that's being hit by ukrainian cluster of buttons. one thing at least 10 people. it was a making with us intelligence, sol through psych, it'd be planned for some 15 years. but the question of how it happened remains a mystery. looking back on 2024. exploding electronics advise is less doesn't instead of $1211.00 on, on schultz

seen in the 2003 remake friday with lindsay lohan and jamie lee curtis and in crazy, beautiful with kirstenst founded in 1961 and built for 6 million dollars. the palisades charter high school currently serves some 3,000 students throughout the los angeles area. >> the high school suffered significant damage during the palisades fire. although the main campus is still standing. >> barbara streisand brice, funny lady was in 1975. musical comedy starring you got winner. barbra streisand. she plays a broadway star whose fortunes have taken a hit to the great depression. one of the major scenes of the film was shot at the will. rogers state park polo fields and ranch house. will rogers ranch house property dating back to the 1920's was completely destroyed in the palisades fire. >> built on 186 acres overlooking the pacific ocean. it has 31 rooms carouse a stable riding pole field golf course and hiking trails. it was where the famed actor lived and rode horses before his death in 1935. his widow, betty rogers, give the property to the state in 1944. and it became a historic state park. the bun

there is nothing that pete hegseth or kirsten gillibrand and i can do to make a artillery shell way lessnd less than 50 pounds. shoulder full combat load 250 to 300 pounds. we have to have high and gender neutral standards to ensure that our troops are going to be safe and fit to fight. but the democrats would rather impose quotas or goals to make sure we have an arbitrary number of women or other ideals in our infantry or artillery or special forces as opposed to focusing on fighting effectiveness. that's what i laid out. that's what pete hegseth will do as secretary of defense. i thought he did a great job. i know you are proud of him as a former colleague and friend. i commend him for a great job. >> steve: indeed. exit question, are you surprised at how it looks like all these nominees are going to be confirmed. and for the most part, there aren't any real road blocks in their way. >> no, steve. i'm not, i mean, we do, after all have 53 seat majority in the senate. and if you want to take a little trip down memory lane, going back to the clinton transition for 72 cabinet secretary no

. >> senator kirsten gillibrand of new york, thank you. i appreciate you coming in studio for this conversation. coming up, i will explain why -- why president-elect donald trump cannot pardon away the legacy of january 6th. as we go to break, an update on some extreme weather conditions. some 63 million americans are under winter alerts right now from the plains to the east coast, including 4 million under a blizzard warning and parts of kansas, nebraska, and missouri. the kansas city area feeling the brunt of this storm with multiple instances of thundersnow reported. icy conditions are leading to thousands of flight delays and cancellations, as well as many reported accidents on the road. we will be right back. subjeg st. jude commercials on tv and wondering, is that place legit? those commercials are nice, but is that a real thing? and having lived it, i can say for sure that money is being put to incredible use. i've never once had to wait for insurance to approve a test or approve a medication. we didn't have to worry about any of th

2003 remake of freaky friday with lindsay lohan and jamie lee curtis and in crazy, beautiful with kirstenst founded in 1961 and built for 6 million dollars. the palisades charter high school currently serves some 3,000 students throughout the los angeles area. >> the high school suffered significant damage during the palisades fire. although the main campus is still standing. >> barbra streisand as brice funny lady was in 1975. musical comedy starring you got winner. barbra streisand. she plays a broadway star whose fortunes have taken a hit to the great depression. one of the major scenes of the film was shot at the will. rogers state park polo fields and ranch house. will rogers ranch house property dating back to the 1920's was completely destroyed in the palisades fire. >> built on 186 acres overlooking the pacific ocean. it has 31 rooms carouse a stable riding ring pole field golf course and hiking trails. it was where the famed actor lived and rode horses before his death in 1935. his widow, betty rogers, give the property to the state in 1944. and it became a historic state park. t

his own leagues liked him like kirsten gillibrand. there were sources within the g.o.p.ference that were telling me they believed they had a time agreement with chuck schumer. they were under the impression that there was an agreement with chuck schumer, so, there was a sense that, perhaps, chris murphy was free-lancing a little bit here he went out on his own. when i did have a chance to ask schumer about this, he sort of, you know, dug in his heels and said no, i'm okay with this. and i think we should be doing this with every single nominee that doesn't have unanimous support which is pretty much everyone other than marco rubio. they are digging in their heels. although i will say, stand by for tonight. you never know. the senate doesn't like to be here very late. so, they might come to an agreement. >> ainsley: 57 and then the vote should be scheduled for pete hegseth a vote before 9:45. now, can he afford to lose three republicans because he would still get confirmed j.d. vance if he loses j.d. vance could be the tiebreaker. any word on whether or not we know anyone

. >> aishah: bret, just now we are learning that senator kirsten gillibrand of new york will be a yesote on ratcliffe for cia director. on marco rubio, the senate foreign relations committee is planning a mark-up for him on inauguration day. that's a pretty good indication that he could be voted on and sworn in that very night. bret? >> bret: aishah hasnie live on the hill. thank you. the pentagon's inspector general is faulting lloyd austin for not informing the white house incapacitated due to cancer treatment last year. the staff says austin told them to keep his hospitalization a secret. he denies saying that the report also says no one on the staff knew of the seriousness of austin's condition. up next, our new fox polls on president-elect trump's approval. first, here's what some of our fox affiliates around this country are covering tonight. fox 5 in new york as new york governor kathy hochul announces every subway station in the city will have a uniformed officer on the platform from 9:00 p.m. to 5:00 a.m. she made the statement during her state of the state address. she says

this is kirsten with kcal news. on the missing people, i understand there was the family assistance center that was opened in pasadena. is that that still open? if i mean, how many are you talking about that are still unaccounted for? >> so in regards to missing persons, i reported 16 earlier today. i want the make sure -- to make sure that anybody who believes their family members are missing, that they do contact us at least at the very's department in our county areas. and then we do have the family assistance center so they can go there to report 'em or ask any questions that they may have. but it is critical that we are aware of these situations. and when i talk about reconciling numbers, hour by hour the numbers increase. sometimes they decrease because people are being found. so i expect or anticipate that the number of missing persons will absolutely go up. but if there's a doubt in anybody's mind, please, that's what we're here for. please contact us right away, and we'll guide you through the process so it

. >> hi kirsten with k cal news is it required to go sign up there's no automatic alert some people don'te power or access to the internet to do that process. will they be automatically notified at all if they are in that zone? >> yes. the system that we're partnering with the california office of emergency services still has the ability to issue wireless emergency alerts through their process. that is the push notification that goes to cell phones. if people have -- right now the best way if you don't have access to sign up directly with -- through the internet on to the alert system would be to call 211 and get assistance through that source. >> thank you. that's the end of our press conference -- >> to be clear if i may i want to be clear you don't have to sign up. you'll get the alerts automatically. anything that you want in addition, i think what director is saying any clarification that people need you can go online if you can't go online, you can call 211 but alerts are automatically being sent. and you also can't unsubscribe which i know has been frustrating for people they want

tomorrow morning, we'll be joined by new york senator kirsten gillibrand.ess secretary sarah matthews, and more. so that starts back here tomorrow at 8 a.m. eastern. and then we're going to see you again tomorrow night at 9 p.m. eastern for a special hour of the weekend to preview the inauguration. yes, we are kicking it off, honey. >> oh my goodness. >> but in the

amna: canada's ambassador to the united states, kirsten hillman, thank you for being here. amb.lman: thanks for having me. ♪ geoff: today, president-elect trump's allies in congress proposed a new bill dubbed "make greenland great again." it's meant to expedite a negotiation process with denmark that protects greenland's autonomy given mr. trump's repeated desire to buy the arctic territory. meantime, greenland's prime minister said today that while the massive island is not for sale, greenland would work with the u.s. nick schifrin has this look at the isolated but strategic polar outpost. nick: >> it is the world's largest island, majestic, magical, remote and rugged, an ancient part of the planet crucial for contemporary national security. >> it's a key part of the arctic region that protects access to the u.s. homeland. nick: sherry goodman is the secretary general and senior fellow at woodrow wilson center. >> it has long been a place where we have defended against soviet missiles during the cold war through a large base in the northwest of greenland, now upgraded to a spac

is that tim kaine and kirsten gillibrand? anyway, mullen exposed that incredible display of hypocrisy. take a look. >> the senator from virginia starts bringing up the fact that what if you showed up drunk to your job? how many senators have showed up drunk to vote at night? have any of you guys asked them to step down and resign from their job? and don't tell me you haven't seen it because i know you have. and then how many senators do you know have gotten a divorce before cheating on their wives? did you ask them to step down? no, but it's for show. you guys make sure you make a big show and point out the hypocrisy because the man's made a mistake, and you want to sit there and say that he's not qualified. give me a joke. i mean, it is so ridiculous that you guys hold yourself as this higher standard and you forget you got a big plank in your eye. >> check and mate. well done. the democratic party, they are filled with liars, hypocrites who will say and do anything for political power and above all else, that's all they car

. >> and i think it's because a lot of members of the democratic party, senator kirsten gillibrand of new york in particular, have been pushing him to do this. but the national archives already said that they don't expect to do that. nothing from their perspective has actually changed. the president doesn't actually have a formal role in this process. >> so we'll see what happens. as president biden, you think just playing to his left wing with this, with this move? >> no, i mean, i think it's i think if you were playing to your left wing, you would have done it well before now. i mean, i think it's regrettable that, you know, he, with all due respect, waited to the very last minute to actually make this move. but what i'm interested in seeing, wolf, is you had women on both sides of the political aisle since roe was overturned, and even up until november that chose their their reproductive rights. there are women on both sides of the political aisle that don't want to see a reverse in rights for women. so i'm going to be curious to see how organizations like planned parenthood and ot

didn't feel like anybody could get hegseth on the ropes, with the exception of maybe tim kaine and kirstengillibrand. but many of them felt like they weren't prepared. they weren't really aggressive, and they didn't ask critical questions like, are you going to put the constitution first? are you going to put donald trump first? i think that's the real core question here, especially if we talk about potential deployment of u.s. troops on u.s. soil, whether or not trump will use them to to tackle the migrant crisis. we're going to face some very real. >> there was a point. i don't want to cut you off, but there was a point. i got to get to this. there was where he was asked whether he'd follow certain controversial laws. and our time is limited. but i want to play for you and the audience. what he had to say about this exchange. listen. >> would you carry out an order from president trump to seize greenland, a territory of our nato ally denmark, by force? or would you comply with an order to take over the panama canal? >> senator, i will emphasize that president trump received 77 million vo

. >> and we just so you know, sarah, we had senator kirsten gillibrand on with us earlier and she saidchecked pam bondi. and one exchange that she had during her hearing. i want you to take a listen to another exchange. and this is about the results of the 2020 election. >> who won the 2020 presidential election? >> joe biden is the president of the united states. do i accept the results? of course i do. do i agree with what happened? and i saw so much, you know, no one from either side of the aisle should want there to be any issues with election integrity. in our country, there was a peaceful transition of power. president trump left office and was overwhelmingly elected in 2024. >> not a peaceful trip. there was not a peaceful transfer of power. literally, literally january 6th. okay. and then and then he didn't even attend the inauguration last time. i just wanted to point that out. >> well, nor was he overwhelmingly elected because he got he didn't get 50%. >> i will say that he didn't get 50%. >> yeah. >> as you know, sarah simone, michael, folks are prepped for these hearings, r

tomorrow morning, we'll be joined by new york senator kirsten gillibrand. mary mccord and former trump deputy press secretary sarah matthews, and more. so that starts back here tomorrow at 8 a.m. eastern. and then we're going to see you again tomorrow night at 9 p.m. eastern for a special hour of the weekend to preview the inauguration. yes, we are kicking it off, honey. >> oh my goodness. >> but in the meantime, michael stuck like he didn't know this. ali velshi will continue our coverage. >> that's some crazy stuff. you guys are working tomorrow morning, and then tomorrow night we've got earn our keep. >> ali. yes. and then the next morning, lots of news. >> and then the next morning. and the next morning, i gotta i gotta have a little sit down with you guys. >> tell you how to how to how to butter up the bosses a little bit. so stuff like that doesn't happen. >> well, yes, we. >> ali velshi, we're just trying to be like you, you know? yes. i see you early in the morning, late at night, covering the things in the war zones. i'm not trying to go to war zon

he was also confronted about this by a senator, senator kirsten gillibrand, in ways direct and indirect, overt and subtle standards have been changed inside infantry training units, ranger school, infantry battalions to ensure that commanders meet. >> please give me an example. i get you're making these generalized statements quotas to have a certain number of female infantry officers or infantry enlisted, and that disparages those women commanders do not capable of meeting that for the infantry commanders do not have to have a quota for women in the infantry that does not exist, it does not exist. and your statements are creating the impression that there that these exist because they do not. there are not quotas. we want the most lethal force. >> joining us tonight in our fifth seed is juan williams. he has a book out new prize for these eyes the rise of america's second civil rights movement. juan, welcome to the show. today. look, it's a very anticlimactic. he's probably going to be confirmed. he's going to have the votes. but i think it did raise some questions about what he did kn

but thank you so much for bringing this to our attention today, senator kirsten gillibrand, thank you for being here. that is going to do it for me today. deadline. white house starts right now. >> hi, everyone. >> happy friday. >> it's 4:00 in new york. >> scrutiny on capitol hill today for the person picked for the job. that was a controversial revolving door in trump 1.0 and is likely to remain a flashpoint in trump 2.0. a maga world favorite who was said to be in the running to be donald trump's pick for vice president. that was until she herself revealed and narrated a detailed account of that time she shot and killed her own dog in a book that also happened to be rife with baffling inaccuracies. south dakota governor kristi noem was on capitol hill today before the senate homeland security committee for her confirmation hearing. eight years ago, the person in noem's chair was retired marine general john kelly, and he broke with donald trump that day on a number of issues, from targeting muslim americans to russian interference in the 2016 election and even the border wall. >> li

in washington, we have the canadian ambassador kirsten hellman on balance of power who said they aretable. that is nothing -- that nothing would be off the table except the acquisition of canada. on the second point about any potential inflationary impacts, i caught up with a republican strategist who told me this is going to be way more palatable for congressional republicans who will be questioning scott bessent later this week and have already expressed concerns about tariffs and about rhetoric about any spike in prices and with that could mean to republicans as they try to hold on to their slim majority in congress . in the midterms, they would like to see unified government for the total of four years under trump's term. president-elect trump has not yet been presented with these plans. they are preliminary but they likely would be enacted under some sort of emergency power. scott bessent would be needed for that. jonathan: tyler kendall, appreciate it. euro-dollar turning negative and now totally unchanged. libby cantrill is joining us for more. libby: good morning. jonathan: b

eric nelson of wells fargo as canada searches for a new prime minister, and kirsten's lock of apollo.tocks looking for a third straight day of gains. nvidia unveiling new products and renewing optimism over ai demand. julian emanuel writing with consumers enthusiastic on ai adoption and sentiment in corporate america relatively muted, 2025 the critical ai adoption inflection year. julian, good morning. happy new good to see you. >> there's a statute of limitations there. jonathan: we are getting close to mine, friday. 6800 base case for you on the s&p 500. middle of this year? >> bets are year-end. jonathan: we had a couple of guests say that the men of the year is not going to be donald trump, it's not going to be jay powell, it could well be jensen huang. >> he made a pretty good case last night for that in the case. you go back to the start of this bull market, october of 2022, ai has been literally the one constant theme. a month later, chatgpt was unveiled to the world and you've had this incredible and -- enthusiasm building. we all use it in our daily lives and what we've seen

we had kirsten gillibrand on our show, who is now the head of the democratic senatorial campaign committeee clear, this is why joni ernst so quickly did an about face, because she, too, is concerned about a primary and her seat members have to walk a tight rope. obviously, they can't do much to their constituents if they're no longer elected. but at what cost? right? are you bending the proverbial. >> it seems like a pretty serious time. >> nbc news senior executive editor for national security david rohde, thank you very much. we'll see you soon. coming up, as we've discussed, a number of top tech leaders had a front row seat at yesterday's inauguration as they continue to try to establish close ties with president trump. walter isaacson, who literally wrote the book on elon musk, joins us next on the potential conflicts of interest that could arise or perhaps already have arisen. that's straight ahead on morning joe. you'll be back. >> emus can't help people customize and save with liberty mutual. and doug. mutual. and doug. >> well, i'll be only pay f the future of cool, comfortable sle

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