evidence. >> you actually talked to kirstin on the phone. i want our viewers to here some of what she said in terms of why she was so initially trustworthy of law enforcement. >> i want them to know that i didn't do it. i didn't know that there was any inconsistencies between what i was telling them and what had happened in their case. i figured if i told them the okay. >> joe, what stands out to you most dramatically about kirstin's case? >> the thing that's so unbelievable is the fact that the timeline is clear that the murder in question took place at a different time and that she was acknowledging that she had -- she had been a victim. she was a victim of an attempted attack and fended off the attacker and that's what she thought she was, you know, she was talking to the police about and the police kind of manipulated her into talking and now used the statement against her when there is so much evidence to show that this crime could not have happened the way the prosecutor lays out. the thing that i find the most outrageous and it happen

kirstin powers has a column out tonight saying isis emerged in the ashes of the u.s.nvasion to oust saddam hussein, he ran a secular government, now it's mostly theo kratic, we're trying to put the blame for what we're seeing on your former boss. >> when barack obama came into office he blamed george w. bush for for four years. the one thing he took credit for was iraq. they weren't blaming bush for iraq, they were trying to take credit for the success of iraq. when they came in, iraq was pacified. al qaeda and isis had been defeated, driven out of its safe haven and they had no control over any major tut territory. the sunni masses had risen up against them. they were defeated and discredited. that's what obama inherited. this is obama's doing, this is his mess, because he withdrew. >> and yet the president's defenders say it's not his fault. while he wanted to keep some troops there in iraq, which would stabilize the region, maliki didn't want forces there, so we had no choice but to withdraw our troops. >> that's not true. they requested of the white house, he want