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i want to bring in andrew kirtzman, who has covered rudy giuliani extensively for three decades and is author of a very timely book, "giuliani: the rise and tragic fall of america's mayor." it's hard to put into perspective just how far of a fall from grace we are truly witnessing. do you think giuliani, based on how you saw him coming out of court today, has any grasp of that? >> you know, if giuliani were an introspective person, which he is not, he would be asking himself tonight about some of the choices he made. the choices he made beginning with his extraordinary fame after september 11th, when he was more popular that the pope, according to polls, when he was making astonishing amounts of money, cashing in on his fame. when he ran for president and was the front runner for an entire year before that race happened. what was the choice he made after he lost that race, after he had to leave that race in humiliation having just accumulated just one delegate. his choice was to align himself with donald trump. every humiliation he's had since then, every disaster that rudy giuliani th

here tonight is someone with the truth, andrew kirtzman, who knows rudy giuliani extremely well, havingal reporter and the author of giuliani: the rise and tragic fall of america's mayor. i mean, what do you make of the defiance that you see of him coming out of court as he did today? >> extraordinary. it's very characteristic of giuliani, who never admits fault in anything. but seeing what he's facing in terms of damages and sticking to that allegation is really something. it's really something. >> i mean, he might potentially have to pay a lot of money we know he doesn't have. his attorney was saying today that $43 million would be the civil equivalent of the death penalty. but i wonder as someone who's covered him for as long as you have, what do you make of the fact that he's being held accountable for what he said? >> i think giuliani is finally paying the price for a lifetime of character assassination. i mean, destroying reputations is what rudy giuliani does. he did it as prosecutor, he did it as mayor. in my book, i write about an election campaign in catholic school, where he

andrew kirtzman, thank you. >>> gaza's uncertain future have opened a public riff between president bidenenjamin netanyahu. in his pointedriticism of the war, biden warned that israel is losing global support because of indiscriminate bomng. the president referred to private conversation in which netaahu pointed out to him, well, you carpet bombed germany, you opped the atom bomb, a lot of civilians died. to which biden replied, that's why all of these institutions were set up after world war ii to see it didn't happen again. don't make the same mistakes we mate after 9/11. jonathan lemire, host of "way too early," and msnbc political analyst john spencer, chair of urban warfare studies at west point's modern war institute. these two leaders have had no shortage of disagreements over the past year, west bank settlements. judicial overhaul, the future of the palestinian people. since october 7th, biden has thrown himself into netanyahu's corner, and defended israel's campaign to destroy hamas. what is the relationship like, though, right now, as you stand on the lawn of the white house? >>

. >> andrew kirtzman, elie honig, thank you both. >>> in washington today, you could smell the jet fumess house lawmaker wrs leaving town before the long holiday recess. not before introducing an impeachment inquiry into president biden. >>> and a follow-up to our interview monday night with senator ron johnson. >> these folks did nothing different than what many democrats have done in many states. i'm not prepared to give you exact states, but it's happened repeatedly. just go check the books. >> which books? >>> this week house republicans formalized their impeachment inquiry into president biden, once again putting the country on a road that was once rarely travelled in our nation's history. but not anymore. this all comes as a gop investigation into hunter biden's business dealings has so far struggled to bear any evidence of wrong doing by his father, president biden. the president's son this week did make his first public statement since being criminally indicted, which has happened twice. he slammed republicans and staunchly defended his father. >> my father was not financially in

and andrew kirtzman, author of giuliani that rise and tragic fall of america's mayor, something we have obviously been following closely on the show. elliott, what do you think, what do you make of giuliani insisting all along he was going to testify and just pulling up at the last minute? >> it's the smartest movement in years. if you take in the tenth, i mentioned what catastrophe that would have been. this man is a pathological liar. he can't help himself. this case is really what happens when you combine vicious over the top defamation against innocent victims with the single worst legal strategy ever devised by a human mind. let's go through the way rudy and his lawyer approach this case. before, if they agreed that they were liable. that rudy was liable. they can see that, yes, what he did was defamatory. there might be a strategy there, if your strategy is just going to be true tragic and what the damages. we are going to go in there, rudy is going to a former, he's got a court up in something she would, i didn't intend for members to have this effect. i'm sorry, maybe you can't