secretary of state henry kissinger. he's had an interesting perspective on the middle east that comes from a long history of brokering peace in the region. i'm once again pleased to have him on this program. welcome. >> good to be here always. >> rose: first about history. put these events in the context of change in the 21st century. >> it's a region which is composed of countries, many of which are artificial. they're the results of world war i and of the division of the region with the victors. that is not true of egypt. egypt is an ancient country. thousands of years of history of the different governmental structures. egypt has a huge impact on the region and egypt has been on the side of the united states since it switched in the late '70s under the president. so in the region now there are pressures from the shiite community from a return to iran. there's the arab/israeli dispute. it's the issue of what we mean by democracy, the relationship between the domestic structure of the government and the capacity to per

he had pat moynihan and henry kissinger in his administration and irving kristol in and out of the white house. all of that eventually changed. he had bill buckley and his administration. that was an interesting administration. one of the observations that should be made about richard nixon is that he really was intellectually alive in a way that other politicians aren't. bill clinton is not the least bit intellectual. he is not the least bit intellectually driven. i have had a couple run ins with him as well. if there is a guy -- and administration you compare with the clinton administration, you should compare it with the administration of parting. he loved golf and had a bossy wife. the two along well together when bill goes off to his eternal reward. >> host: you dedicate the impeachment to warren harding. >> guest: i think warren harding, hi am told ronald reagan was called -- pears another iconic republican, it is lincoln. harding is the iconic republican for the clinton administration. i'm surprised no one has picked up that comparison of bill clinton, big lovable lug of a casanov

kissinger, but you have stood out from your class, so to speak, your graduating class of diplomats. tackled bosnia, and lo and behold, you got an agreement. how did you do that? - well, i think it was a combination of factors. first of all, the timing was right, and timing is everything in diplomacy. secondly, we were backed up by the full political and military commitment of the president of the united states. the bombing--the nato bombing-- was critical. and, on a more personal level, i think it was a very persistent effort. we never gave up. we were very tenacious. quite aggressive. and the un diplomacy--you mentioned boutros-ghali a moment ago--the un diplomacy was very passive. they may disagree with that. they may tell you they weren't passive. and god knows we paid an enormous bill through the un, and people suffered and died, but the diplomacy was pretty weak. - and when--in the realm of diplomacy, we tend to think that words are used as shadows and don't always mean what they're supposed to mean--when do you cut through that and let mr. milosevic or somebody like that know

and kissinger there was of course a story worth on the documents in the trash. and of course we were trashed for doing that and people would always mock us and make us. let me preface all of that width and about 1948 my grandfather had a thing called psychological warfare with the cia and my father also went into that. a lot of the things that were used, he still maintained his ties with the intelligence community until he passed away. someone of the other great stories of courses that ted kennedy story and in 1980, 12 years after -- 12 years faster he was on the great story where the car went off and yes, with the unborn child and he never ran the story. what he really wanted to get to us he wanted to get his jacket. it do that, he ran a story about their family and the children. you know, that was like the tablet gold. so there were many instances like that that occurred like that. so really for me, growing up at this, it was pretty interesting. >> i just want to clarify, the story was mary jo kopechne had been pregnant at the time of the -- >> yes, yes. >> is

richard nixon and henry kissinger, i jumped on them for detente. the truth of the matter is detente worked. it gave us a breathing spell. it gave us time to work out to the position where ronald reagan could fashion an arms buildup that broke the soviets' back. so i think richard nixon was a successful president in that regard. in that aspect of his presidency. he was a disaster in other areas, particularly domestic spending. whoever that wonderful liberal is that just left us. [laughter] i think he's my kind of liberal, but he's awfully hard to -- [inaudible] >> host: grace in tampa, florida, you're on with r. emmett bob tyrrell. go ahead with your question. >> guest: hi, mr. tyrrell. i think ronald reagan would be rolling in his grave right now if he knew -- [inaudible] for china. it's kind of interesting, i did vote republican. i am a democrat. but i think i'm going to go with democrat because i think the republicans this year are having an issue with social security. and since so many americans are unemployed, millions and millions going from u

who are in first line in the army they are all approved by the americans they've been there since kissinger time their whole be very very pro-american but their time has gone i think it is the right. it will take place i think there will be dramatic changes it will take time but at the same time i think now that the genie has gone out of the of the of its. it cannot be brought back and this is where the drive of the revolution that is going to take place it may be difficult it may be. even sometimes violent but i think at the end of the day that is the way that it's going and unless countries actually see that it's countries cannot continue to work on the wishful thinking policy because we want them to be pro-american or well pro israel or accept this or accept that i've heard the media international media all talking about well look at the demonstrations there they are not raising anti american anti israel itself of course people are not doing that people at the present moment to have the freedom and once they have the freedom and once we in the world accept that people have democracy demo

satire can be the best way to really talk about the truth for example let's look at the fake henry kissinger. diplomacy has changed so much today our diplomats tweet their messages to the public in my day where does drive them from ten thousand feet again i mean it's a terrible it goes to some of maybe his core beliefs but you know something maybe he could maybe back in the day you'd say to a friend now it goes all over the world because of social media but this is kind of accurate you're right you're right i mean this is pretty good let's say we have one from a fake mubarak account that was created as well since i'm free now i've decided to promote democracy in egypt i'll start by running for president in september hash tag vote me hash tag you're clearly you know a little silly but you know i mean this isn't the realm of some of the celebrity freak tweets we've seen which are kind of ridiculous kind of a way of poking fun at them but it did come and you know he's gone but it kind of diminishes their brand a little bit i mean you think about tommy hilfiger and all the stuff that he's had to

people like henry kissinger and alan greenspan and some of the others. >> we are out of time. why did you not take the job of committee to reelect the president of richard nixon in 1972? >> i was -- i just did not have any interest in doing it. >> the book is called "known and unknown: a memoir." donald rumsfeld is our guest. thank you very much for being here. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> for a dvd copy of this program, called 1-877-662-7726. for free transcripts or to give us your comments about this program, visit our website. "q&a" programs are also available as c-span podcasts. >> today, this of the public and private spaces of america's most recognizable home, the white house. we provide a barely seen look at the history of the presidential residence and take you through the, the west wing, local office, and lagan betterment focus on the presidents and first families to most influenced how it looks today, airing in high-definition and newly updated with interviews with president obama

people like henry kissinger and alan greenspan and some of the others. >> we are out of time. why did you not take the job of committee to reelect the president of richard nixon in 1972? >> i was -- i just did not have any interest in doing it. >> the book is called "known and unknown: a memoir." donald rumsfeld is our guest. thank you very much for being here. [captioning performed by national captioning institute] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> for a dvd copy of this program, called 1-877-662-7726. for free transcripts or to give us your comments about this program, visit our website. "q&a" programs are also available as c-span podcasts. >> tomorrow, first look at the low energy income plan. then the national taxpayers union outline of hidden taxes that contained in the budget. that contained in the budget.

i think henry kissinger taught about built-in mechanisms to detect and deter.so there's a lot of work kept on for you here at kennedy school of many other academic institutions is the one for global zero which will not happen tomorrow. we can live as human beings and not be afraid we are going to wake up tomorrow and half the world's gone. >> i think the challenge is to think about a new security paradigm, especially with someone they'll have to acknowledge. unfortunately my duty to say we're coming close to the end. what i'm going to do is take one, two, three, each state your question briefly. but mohammed addressed to three and i apologize to the people standing up. >> good evening, ime fellow at the carter center. i attended a talk a couple weeks ago about third. >> decanter you very well. >> i attended a talk at beauford a few weeks ago there was a debate to whether the u.s. should be playing for an attack on wednesday on more than one state in terms of nuclear weapons. it threw me off course because i had in my mind really come there yet. and i walked awa

among many americans who had been disillusioned by the cynical politics of richard nixon, henry kissinger and gerald ford. most important, the middle east. carter brokered a durable peace agreement between the egyptians and the israelis that has lasted over three decades that no other president has been able to replicate. when push came to shove carter could play politics quite well on foreign policy as with domestic policy. building support for the ratification of the panama canal treaty in 1978. carter obliged senators to panama so they could be lobbied by military leaders, local residents and business leaders on the importance of the treaty. he addressed audiences in key states and local communities to build pressure using state of the art town hall meeting technology and remote telephone connections and exploited divisions among conservatives on this issue. it is easy to forget that carter scored big victories in his first two years after his first hundred days. he had approval ratings approaching 69%. washington post columnist joseph kraft reported republicans and independents like h

people like henry kissinger and alan greenspan and some of the others. >> we are out of time.hy did you not take the job of committee to reelect the president of richard nixon in 1972? >> i was -- adjusted not have any interest in doing it. >> the book is called "known and unknown." donald rumsfeld is our guest. thank you very much for being here. >> for a dvd copy of this program, called 1-877-662-7726. for free transcripts or to give us your comments about this program, visit our website. "q&a" programs are also available as c-span podcasts. >> tonight, british prime minister david cameron response to concerns about the recent rise in unemployment and prime ministers questions. after that, look it highlights from question period in the canadian house of commons with prime minister stephen harper. remarks from secretary hillary clinton on afghanistan and pakistan. andue

unfortunately -- and this is why the so-called four horsemen; george shultz, sam nunn, bill perry and henry kissinger at the 30th anniversary of reykjavik -- got together and decided to start an effort to eliminating nuclear weapons. there is now the real possibility, and i think it's going to be an increasing possibility in the future, that subnational groups can get their hands on some sort of nuclear weapon, and many -- in that circumstance, deterrence seemingly has no value at all. and what could we threaten such a group with? the only thing we could do was hope we could ap rehelp them and stop them before they set off whatever device were developed. so from the point of view of the four horsemen, and i mentioned that because my opinion is my opinion, but those men at least had major experience in government. they saw that change as millennial, as very important and as a reason to move to zero or as quickly as possible. sorry, yeah. [laughter] >> richard, do you really think the iaea and the u.n. are capable of brokering a deal to diplomatically remove nuclear weapons? and if they can't, who's go

much but roosevelt's history and they link it with the awarded the nobel peace prize with henry kissinger and say those scandinavians have a real sense of humor. but anyway, so one of the reasons roosevelt went to war was to scratch this historical psychological itch. there were other elements. there was the feeling on the part of some americans that the country, the economy had outgrown its consumer base. for the first time in american history by the 1890s, america's economy could produce more than american consumers needed to consume. in an agrarian age when farming is the basic economy, you don't have depression because people, their needs are greater than their productive capacity. but when you emerge in the age of industrialization of economic modernization, it's the opposite at the production capacity is greater than the consumptive needs. the first series in social depression in american history takes place in the 1890s. and americans look at this and say boy, this is something new. because now have this problem where we can produce more than we can consume. so what are we going to

in a sort of kissinger like moment that they will not say those are what we thought was wrong.i don't think they're going to do that. >> host: it's rare you would see that kind of the moment. it's very rare like the japanese on the deck of the missouri that they signed instrument of surrender, and those with the route over the course of a generation. >> guest: i think al qaeda will peer out. one of the best lines in early on the george w. bush said, i presume it was written for him, that al qaeda was essentially going to be consigned to the dustbin of history at a certain point. he said it much better. the unmarked grave of discarded lies. it was a great line. and i think it's true. it is a set of lives essentially, for a group that is defending muslims. it's also losing the war of ideas as well. one point in the book, support for suicide bombing an al qaeda versus taking, i could reason that people can look at the more carefully and realized that ideology that attacked us on september 11, 2001, is the same ideology sending suicide bombers into oil facilities in saudi arabia, h

. >> to that list maybe i'd, also, perhaps add one of bill's closest friends, namely henry kissinger.ey went way back, and i think that henry had a, i think it was a mutual, a mutual influence. but they were very close. >> yeah, yeah. and hayek. >> you'll note how many libertarians there are among those. >> yeah. well -- >> that was always a part of bill buckley. he was, of course, a very devout roman catholic, very much a believer of the church, followed the church, believer. but also he did have a very strong libertarian strain in him, no question about that. >> in fact, it's interesting, his starting -- he started the column in '62, and in be i think it was '66 he did his first collection. it included some longer pieces, but it was mostly a collection of columns, the jeweler's eye. and then he did those collections, oh, every two or three or five years up until 1993 or '4, and that was the last one, and that is happy days are here again, and that is subtitled, reflections of a libertarian journalist. >> good afternoon. good afternoon. it's a really wonderful book. i can't think of

>> it is interesting, henry kissinger said on channel four about why the u.s. is what is stopping mubarak. he reminded when sad dat did the peace treaty with israel and egypt shifted from a soviet alley to a u.s. ally and that's what assassinated, and shortly afterward and mubarak came. at the time u.s. was happy to have him. it stayed this way. and the policy was built on having him as a friend and tolerating him and seeing him as a safe pair of hands. all of this, is i think being shattered. we're about to witness a totally new reality in the middle east. >> thank you, your closing view? >> i think the region is changing. i think politics from the region and the middle east and west, should start develop new agenda and policy for the region. few quick comments about -- about islammist, the is ham in question. governments have -- want more credibility among the people in the street, they should actually incorporate with democratic secular leaders, not dictators. then they will have credibility and stability and democracy as well, considered. the issue of the p

>> it is interesting, henry kissinger said on channel four about why the u.s. is what is stopping mubarak. he reminded when sad dat did the peace treaty with israel and egypt shifted from a soviet alley to a u.s. ally and that's what assassinated, and shortly afterward and mubarak came. at the time u.s. was happy to have him. it stayed this way. and the policy was built on having him as a friend and tolerating him and seeing him as a safe pair of hands. all of this, is i think being shattered. we're about to witness a totally new reality in the middle east. >> thank you, your closing view? >> i think the region is changing. i think politics from the region and the middle east and west, should start develop new agenda and policy for the region. few quick comments about -- about islammist, the is ham in question. governments have -- want more credibility among the people in the street, they should actually incorporate with democratic secular leaders, not dictators. then they will have credibility and stability and democracy as well, considered. the issue of the p

there were echoes of statements by former secretary of state, henry kissinger from the past weekend,the u.s. relationship is not just with one person, but rather with all of the egyptian people as a whole. former deputy national secretary, elliott abrams for you to read it created the very situation that israel and the u.s. now fear and that mubarak's statement that he will not run in egypt scheduled election is too late to enable a smooth transition. america's role should be to facilitate a post-mubarak transition in order to avert future violence and restore calm and guard against the use of the transition process by nefarious elements such as the muslim brotherhood to direct way for indirectly undermine egypt's evolution to a democratic republic. there is no evidence that a well thought out contingency plan existed in the event that mubarak's governance -- governments became unstable or collapsed. "the wall street journal" reported that middle east experts at a january 31st meeting at the national security council officials quote, please tell me you have contingencies in case of m

>> it is interesting, henry kissinger said on channel four about why the u.s. is what is stopping mubarak. he reminded when sad dat did the peace treaty with israel and egypt shifted from a soviet alley to a u.s. ally and that's what assassinated, and shortly afterward and mubarak came. at the time u.s. was happy to have him. it stayed this way. and the policy was built on having him as a friend and tolerating him and seeing him as a safe pair of hands. all of this, is i think being shattered. we're about to witness a totally new reality in the middle east. >> thank you, your closing view? >> i think the region is changing. i think politics from the region and the middle east and west, should start develop new agenda and policy for the region. few quick comments about -- about islammist, the is ham in question. governments have -- want more credibility among the people in the street, they should actually incorporate with democratic secular leaders, not dictators. then they will have credibility and stability and democracy as well, considered. the issue of the p