kissinger's outstanding new book on china - page 493? partnership with the united states is no longer the outsized claim of a vulnerable country; it is increasingly the reality backed by financial and economic capacities." or i could quote fareed, from his excellent post-american world -- "china is a country whose scale dwarfs the united states. china is hungry for success." the fascinating thing is that these two great geopolitical thinkers agree that the chinese economic challenge is also a challenge to the hegemony in the world of the united states. once again let me quote dr. kissinger -- "an explicit american project to organize asia on the basis of containing china or creating a block of democratic states for an ideological crusade is unlikely to succeed." he hopes, as he concludes in his book, for peaceful co- evolution. but he fears a repeat of what happened a hundred years ago when the rise of germany challenged the pre-dominance of the united kingdom. but for me, it's not just about china. the key to the 21st century really lie

since henry kissinger opened china to the world, and opened u.s.he united states has had a remarkably consistent policy toward china. and that has been to integrate china into the world, to help china gain the knowledge, the know how, the technology, the capital, and the institutional frameworks that will help it become a productive, thriving member of the international community. we have followed that under presidents that were democratic, under republicans. we're managing extraordinary consistency of policy. even on those issues like red lines such as our relationship with taiwan. our relationship with the dal i lamb a -- dalai lama. every president has maintained a coop active relationship with china while retaining some core interests and values that we thought were important. i think that my greatest worry about u.s.-chinese relations right now is not the united states. i think the united states will continue to play that role and has been trying to do so. the united states has been willing to reform the i.m.f. and the world bank and all inter

henry kissinger said he wanted to try to engage the chinese. he started sending messages to the beijing through the romanians and the pakistanis. initially those messages did not elicit much of a response. in the summer, the soviet feud erupted into a serious military clash along the border. that signaled that the differences between the major communist countries had reached a point where something serious could be done. surely thereafter, mr. nixon began to see positive responses out of china. in october, the chairman brought them for the national day celebration. signaling he was prepared to talk to an american. then to everybody's shocked, as chairman mao later said to henry kissinger or maybe the president himself, he said all we did was to throw out a ping-pong ball. the world like crazy. suddenly, in the united states, the great fear and that we would be drawn into a war with china over vietnam, the reprising of the fear we had had in the korean war with china, suddenly that ping-pong diplomacy gave people a sense that maybe the game woul

kissinger, graham martin and kissinger were kind of left over and they said if nixon were still in officewe would be given general deng a good dose of vitamin b-52. but nixon got impeached and gerald ford want to wash his hands of it. they kept stalling. finally, the marines, the marine high commands, the secretary of defense and gerald ford convinced ambassador martin and kissinger it's time to get out. so, so begins the day, april 29, 1975 of just manic helicopters in, out. small arms fire the entire time either coming from snipers. they could see it. the msg's are up on the road. they're working 24 hours shoveling classified information into this furnace. they could see, take a look over the roof and see firefights between the nva who are still fighting. are still standing tall and funny. they're watching the firefights while their shoveling. they shall the $5 million in cash into the furnace of. american cash. who knows how many. i remember there was a story that steve schiller wanted to steal some of that money but i think someone stopped him. but that was a false story anyway. so al

no one contributed more than henry kissinger to that.u to vote against him but for his own analysis. i urge you to support the revolution. thank you. [applause] >> ore opening statement, please? >> thank you very much. that's a hard act to follow. my role in this debate has been to lower the average age of the debating team. and i am going to try to do that as best i can without also lowering the average i.q. which i feel is also going to happen. so you will bear with me and henry will correct all the mistakes i make, including, i hope, firing his biographer. i actually was worried about a debate with henry because the man is a legendary genius. but part of debating is listening to the other side and i remember the story that i was told about henry and it was a journalist called too good to check. so i have never actually -- but it was a story that goes like this. henry has a legendary accent. and friends of his who are german say he has an accent even in german. apparently he has an older brother and he speaks normal american english. s

he was an aide to henry kissinger. he supported nixon's efforts to normalize relationships with the people's republic of china. he has been the assistant secretary of state for east asian and pacific affairs, and ambassador to the philippines. our third speaker will be john lehman. he is president of a private equity investment firm. he served as secretary of the navy during the reagan administration. as a staff member to henry kissinger on the national security council. as a delicate to the force reductions in vienna and at the director of the u.s. arms control and disarmament agency. richard allen, you are up. >> thank you very much. the audience is confronted today with about 210 years of solid hands-on nixon experience. we got to know him very well. we had the opportunity to pass out nixon, pamphlets in working- class indiana when i was imprisoned in a catholic anniversary known as the university of notre dame. i got to meet mr. nixon when he came to the campus and was enormously impressed. in 1957, i met him again

he was an aide to henry kissinger. he supported nixon's efforts to normalize relationships with the people's republic of china. he has been the assistant secretary of state for east asian and pacific affairs, and ambassador to the philippines. our third speaker will be john lehman. he is president of a private equity investment firm. he served as secretary of the navy during the reagan administration. as a staff member to henry kissinger on the national security council. as a delicate to the force reductions in vienna and at the director of the u.s. arms control and disarmament agency. richard allen, you are up. >> thank you very much. the audience is confronted today with about 210 years of solid hands-on nixon experience. we got to know him very well. we had the opportunity to pass out nixon, pamphlets in working- class indiana when i was imprisoned in a catholic anniversary known as the university of notre dame. i got to meet mr. nixon when he came to the campus and was enormously impressed. in 1957, i met him again

i think that henry kissinger is clearly right. that it is not an eansionist power inhe sense thatfor exame, russia was. expanding constantly but i think... >> rose: and certain after the war. >> but i think that what you see already is a chinese strategic doctrine and kissinger, i think, would not dispute this which stakes an ambitious claim to a spheref influence as we rightly said and that would provoke conflict so i i think we're entering very very difficult times >> rose: well, your oxford colleague neil ferguson suggests that nationalistic forces will overwhelm and that there will be a conflict between... in some way between the united states and china. >> well any historian who has looked at the history of the rise and fall of great powers would say such shifts are normally accompanied by war. that's the historical reality. so what you have to ask is why should this case be different? and people say oh, because we have this huge economic interdependence, globalization and so forth. well, let me tell you, we have that in euro

tavis: i asked this question to henry kissinger.our quick take on what our economic implosion, how that has been interpreted in china. >> it is really interesting because, when i visited the last couple of years, every time i talk with the banking regulators to the major bank germans, they always ask this question about how the heck did things get screwed up -- bank chairman's, they always ask this question about how the heck did things get screwup. in a country where government has a big part of controlling the economy, they want to make sure that there is no way on earth that their banking industry will explode the way that we did here. this is the kind of thing that i clearly see that the chinese government is watching very closely to make sure they would never get themselves into that situation. tavis: john, i will give you the last word. your sense of the future of chinese-u.s. relations, now that jon huntsman is in the race, we will not know what will happen with a republic abomination. my sense is that china will be higher up

their son and another shot of thomas kean here's a much younger dick cheney at the grove and henry kissinger having a little fun. there are rumors of extreme drunkenness of prostitutes but for the most part is the secret back agreements critics say should be black and white that agreement can be you know occupying the middle east fighting terrorism. and circling china politically and militarily for mary more who's been researching bohemian grove for more than three decades what happens inside is symptomatic of a much larger problem we've all grown up taking civics trying to understand how the world works and we're all told that we elect representatives they go to washington we have total influence over them and they make decisions that are in the best interests of us then we start growing up and if we pay any kind of attention we find out that none of that is true in monterrey real california christine for zone our time. well i'll be back with a recap of our top stories right after the business news mary. hello and welcome to business here an art scene now there's fuel for thoughts in hanove

your son and another shot of thomas kean here's a much younger dick cheney at the grove and henry kissinger having a little fun i was also able to get my hands on several programs from previous years outlining the schedule of talks and their topics and what we have here on july twenty second two thousand and eight is the lakeside talk given by c.f.r. member and trilateral commission member fred starr. he gave a tall called afghanistan the unexpected upside there are other connections to be made as well between the lakeside talks and public policy that this was a man that was involved in the. oil business george link with the persian gulf crisis this is one nine hundred eighty caspar weinberger who was the secretary of defense in the reagan administration on rearming america and that's easily documented the arms build up came in late eighty one eighty two. there are rumors of extreme drunkenness of prostitutes and of homosexual activities by members but for the most part it is the secret backroom agreements critics say should be brought to light that agreement can be you know occupying the m

. >> if i was interviewing henry kissinger about the secret bombings in came cambodia and discoverede was a zombie, i would have asked him whether he enjoyed eating human brains. that didn't happen but that's what i would have done. >> stephen: that's what i would have to do. it was up to me to blow the coffin hr *eud off sortie and skphroez vampires for what they truly are. i tracked the vampire here to his four bed yom tudor in suburban philadelphia. >> my ne is patrick rogers, i am a vampire. >> stephen: this is the face of evil. [laughter] and these are the hands of evil. brushing the hair of evil. [laughter] and these are the thumbs of evil texting on the blackberry of satan. [laughter] who knows what ancient and unspeakable rituals he performs on this cursed ground. [laughter] [cheers and applause] but do you sleep in a coffin? >> i don't not sleep in a coffin. >> stephen: then you have bats? >> i don't have any bats. >> stephen: you at least want to feast on our terror. >> i assure you, i have no interest in your terror. [laughter] >> stephen: dan, help me out here. what is wi

so explain what you meant. >> nixon and kissinger tried to extricate the united states from the war in vietnam. they knew they weren't going to win. they were going to lose. they tried to tiptoe away and leave the local parties to keep fighting by themselves. it almost worked. but after the u.s. got out, the whole house of cards came falling down because congress wouldn't let the government support saigon because the local parties weren't able to defend themselves and so forth. i think essentially, if the obama administration can tiptoe out of the ground combat in afghanistan while continuing to support the regime in kabul and continuing to bash the enemies and so forth, essentially you could get extrication even as essentially the war continues. that strikes me as the least bad option at this point. >> is that realistic? >> in your piece you say that the problem is we shouldn't be talking about withdrawal, that we should be doing it. indeed that's what nixon did, he withdrew, but he withdrew under cover of offensive fire. in an optimal world, that's probably right. but you're leaving

henry kissinger went for his first trip to china through pakistan. pakistan facilitated the entire connection between china and the united states from 1969, when the first kissinger trip took place, in 1974, when the united states recognize the people's republic of china and the shanghai communiquÉ came about. so, it's one of those washington things, you know, something becomes a story. like the example, one candidate declares for six days, everybody is talking about that candidate and then something happens and that candidate story fizzled out. that's the way is. know, china and pakistan have been friends for a very long time. they have the historic outlook and, therefore, they understand the value of consistency. so whether our trade is up or down, whether military supplies up or down, et cetera, et cetera, the chinese have remained engaged with us and they have remained consistent friends and partners. and, therefore, slightly higher population rating, slightly up. significantly higher pipe liddy rating in pakistan. they are seen always has friend

kissinger i can see they're happening all over the place not only and we might just be the first ones who take steps to avoid further problems for our country but you are right the e.u. has an idea as an ideology if you like is this integrated now i know you mentioned the issue of the euro and where the money going to come from to support are these new custom controls or you think it's reasonable to use our public funding at a time when and the eurozone is just teetering on the brink well i think that the safety and security for our people cannot be paid until course we pay what's necessary these introduction of dollar controls and so to around about one hundred six million danish kroner. at least the. price price to pay for for security and safety across people now there's been an influx of immigrants to the e.u. from the middle east and north africa after the ongoing unrest there do you think the e.u. is not paying a price for that. well the influx of people for all of africa i mean are the group the rebel so me today it's only very much to start the year in problem i believe you're

henry kissinger called ellsberg at the time the most dangerous man in america. they were published by "the new york times" after winning an epic first amendment battle in the supreme court, and after the times had published the pentagon papers the nixon administration prosecuted ellsberg under the espionage act. and you may remember that the trial was aborted in mid trial when judge matthew byrne down in los angeles discovered that nixon's plumbers unit had burglarized ellsberg's psychiatrist's office in order to find dirt on ellsberg. and the judge was so outraged about this governmental misduct that he dismissed the candidate. the government did not are the "the new york times" and, in fact, no publisher has ever been prosecuted under the espionage act, and i don't think that the news media could be prosecuted under the act. when it was proposed back in 1917, the congress rejected language that made it a crime to, quote, publish defense information in the very provision that senator feinstein relies on. the law does forbid, quote, publishing in other parts of

hundred year old annual conference has been attended by everyone from dick cheney newt gingrich henry kissinger and thomas kean the man who two years after this photo was taken would head up the nine eleven commission bohemian grove is located on the outskirts of this tiny california town of nahariya and for more than thirty years protesters have also been coming through here to have their message just heard outside the gate their messages that have over the last few years changed immensely the all a dark evil arche as i call it are trying to bring about a new world order. that means the abolition of all society as we now know what the plan is to reduce the population of the planet population reduction just one of many claims and concerns by those who attended this weekend's protests blaming those inside in the past heads of major electric companies like pacific gas and electric attended bohemian grove a popular issue this year smart meters a new technology used by some electric companies that records and communicates electricity consumption were referring to them as smart murder meters now bec