at the end of the day he made the decision and kissinger said of himself but kissinger is probably the best certain string of republican foreign policy by which i will call realism and that emphasizes balance of power international behavior of other countries and internal behavior the need to carefully coordinate to read the kissinger approach is different from the bush approach and the ronald reagan approach so kissinger is deserving of special mention for the reason. as bernanke went to china in 1972. what did that to for the republican foreign policy expectation? >> at the time it was a popular move. with the general boating public -- voting public there was a conservative who were very skeptical because their point of view was with a horrible dictator and long term united states presiding it makes perfect sense. we are balancing china and the soviet union, its practical, it's constructive and it's helpful and that is the mainstream view of the time. never really held by any president since. >> dwight eisenhower president after world war ii, did he said the tone for the republican f

there was the more realistic kissinger tight school of thought. there were american nationalists to be more skeptical. >> and i think george w. bush ended this disagreements for a while to the concept of the war on terror, but there resurfaced today. resurfaced today with barack obama as president. you see that. >> professor, when lyndon johnson was president where jimmy carter was president was there a vast change in american foreign policy? >> i think carter actually really tried to bring about dramatic changes, probably the only cold war president to believe that you could get beyond the cold war unilaterally. you could -- i think he got in 77 when he came in he could decide issues like human rights and north-south issues and try to move beyond what he called this fear of communism. it turned out that the soviet union, so continuing. it was difficult to declare. by the end of his presidency he was one back into more of the cold war. lyndon johnson, he is best known for vietnam, of course, foreign policy. initially, most republicans of the time

schulz, and henry kissinger, former secretary of state with a ph.d is always called dr. kissinger? and the only thing i could figure it may be kissinger had a podiatry practice on the side. [laughter] but the dinner party has not happened, and i tell you i hear from is animal people. and by animal people i don't mean people who are thrown clear of a plane wreck in africa and raised by a bench of our many things. i mean people with special concern for animals. i mentioned once in a column that they appeared to be a breed of dog that seemed to be assembled from parts from other breeds of dogs. [laughter] not the parts of those dogs are all that sorry about getting a. you may be surprised how many corgis the art in the united states. anyway, i hear from the animal people. i wasn't one of the people who said that dan quayle had a stare like deer in headlights. 's but i suspect people who did write that got more, even though quayle had a very loyal following got more letters from dear people than quayle people. [laughter] >> my question is about wit and humor because it's such a difficu

there were a couple of moments where i wondered whether henry kissinger was still henry kissinger. was henry kissinger -- we talked about the concept in this book called strategic trust press is -- versus a system of strategic threats. as i learn from henry kissinger, sometimes not imagining the world you want but the world you have, have you become sentimental about china? >> we now have a republican version. i -- how you define -- i believe and i have not changed my philosophy that for foreign policy you need a correct assessment of the principal elements that are shaping the perception of nations of each other, the sense of security, you have to decide -- you have to understand they have an element of equilibrium. otherwise, every issue turns into -- that is my basic view. conditions have changed. when the soviet union was the other major power in the world, we were dealing with a country that faced its impact on its military capacity. confronting us in each decade with some military crisis, i think conditions have now changed. the chinese in the world in which we live is not so

scholz and henry kissinger, former secretary of state is always called that are kissinger and the only thing i could figure is maybe kissinger had a podiatry is on the side. but that dinner party has not happened. and i tell you i hear from us and all people. and by animal people, i do not mean people who were thrown clear of a plane wreck in africa and raised by a bunch of orangutans. i mean, people with special concern for animals. i mentioned once in a column that corgis appear to be a breed of dog that seemed to be assembled from parts from other breeds of dogs. not the parts that those dogs are all that sorry about giving. you'd be surprised how many corgi donors there are in the united states with computers and things, tape writers. anyway, i hear from the animal people. if i wasn't one of the people who said that dan quayle had a stare like a deer in headlights, but some people say i suspect the people who did write that got more, even though quayle had a very loyal following, got more letters from deer people dan quayle people. [laughter] >> my question is about wit and humor b

kissinger and the only thing i can figure is maybe kissinger had a podiatry practice on the side but that the dinner party has not happened and i tell you who i hear from is animal people come and buy animal people i don't mean people who are thrown clear of a plane wreck in africa and raised by a bunch of a running it things i mean people with a special concern for animals. i mentioned one in a column that to the breed of dog it seemed to be assembled from parts from other breeds of dog. [laughter] not the parts those dogs are all about sorry about giving up. [laughter] you would be surprised how many voters there are here in the united states with computers and things, typewriters. anyway, i hear from the animal people. i wasn't one of the people who said dan quayle had a scare like a deer in the head headlights but people who did write that got more, even though dan quayle had a very loyal quality got more letters from deer people than dan quayle people. >> my question is about which and humor because it is a difficult thing to achieve. is there an editing process when you write s

king faisal ended up cutting a deal in the embargo with kissinger in which u.s.greed to help the saudis deal with internal subversion at home and pacify surrounding areas. the terms of that deal are not widely known exactly what they agree to, promised to each other. but the oil supply was key to the. when the course pashtun and, of course, when the shah was ousted the u.s. was faced with this catastrophic loss of power within the persian gulf region. and again, concluded with military bases because the saudis were perceived as not being strong enough to stand up to a military iran. >> do you think that some of the parallels you talk about our kind of changing today in a world where there's emerging oil markets in places that are more palatable to the u.s., such as brazil and canada the? >> it is changing. oil dependence has gone down. partly because of the economy. demand has gone down. its content when the economy comes back, the fear is that it will go up again because people have come we all have short memories. invest our policy makers keep putting policies

we know the president nixon and secretary kissinger pledged that they would sell nuclear palestine and nuclear fuel. in 1975 the u.s. agreed to sell eight nuclear power plants and offer to build and in richmond facility for the iranians. this stuff is just coming out now. very interesting part of the equation because in order to really understand what's going on now we have to kind of put it in a bigger picture. >> in the late 70's and early 80's the u.s. began establishing military bases and central command, saudi arabia, bahrain. was wondering if you talk more specifically about the relationship between oil politics earlier in the 70's to the establishment of such a command and also just in the secondary sources, history, political theory that was important to the research. >> i have a bibliography in the back of this book which is quite extensive. everything is listed there. the shot was meant to be our gladiator. he was meant to do the work so that we did not have to have bases. that is why the u.s. agreed to lift restrictions on arms sales which created the destructive dynamic aft

henry kissinger, thank you very much. [laughter] [applause] >> we have a former vice president and liz dick cheney, which i would find the toughest interview available -- possible if my daughter were to interview me. steve commons will moderate path this is an interesting opportunity. having a vice president and his immediate predecessors did it predecessor within an hour of each other is enviable. people know joe biden is a distinctive and important vice president, and dick cheney might be of all the president's one of the most powerful, distinctive, and some who used that office in many ways that others have not. i once was talking to walter mondale and had written a critique of the issues going on, and walter mondale took credit for powerful vice presidents by telling me his was the first vice president's office in the white house. when i was in the middle east last year with liz cheney, we see the world a little different, led been a senior official in the state department and worked closely with her father and variou

this after a lot of gop donors and other prominent figures such as henry kissinger encouraged christie to run. >> now is not my time. i have a commitment to new jersey that i simply will not abandon. that's a promise i made to the people of this state when i took office 20 months ago. to fix a broken new jersey. when i look at what we've accomplished so far, i'm proud. but i know we are not nearly done. >> christie's announcement as a new poll shows support for perry falling after weeks of defending his record while herman cain is rising after much praised debate performance. >>> meteorologist mike nicco talking about a break beforer in storm? >> definitely, the calm before the next storm will affect the sierra. winter storm warning up there and how heavy the rain is going to be around here the next 2 to 48 hours. >>> plus, -- bart unveils a wheelchair ramp in the east bay. advocates say there are major things missing. >> south bay teacher who got a surprise gift. unbelievable gift today for the classroom.  >>> a transportation security administration at new york kenn

one would be the gentleman you just heard from, and henry kissinger. as a very nice things about him. -- would be the one you just heard from, henry kissinger. i said some very nice things about him in book. the thing i've always done remarkable about kissinger, it is the only time in history we ever had a president to resign. they manage the transition. he went out into the house. he announced that secretary kissinger would continue. there are difficult problems. it is under the most difficult political conditions. >> this is unscripted. my colleagues have brought in such a wide in the first group of political players. everyone from vice president biden to dick cheney. i like to ask you a question. and your role, and thinking of the security decisionmaking structure that the bill, there has been some critique that you took over the process. >> i'm not sure the structure is there. i come back to something i mentioned earlier. i am convinced that what makes it work are the individuals and the relationships they have. >> it is not enough that ino the oth

this after a lot of gop donors and other prominent figures such as henry kissinger encouraged christie to run. >> now is not my time. i have a commitment to new jersey that i simply will not abandon. that's a promise i made to the people of this state when i took office 20 months ago. to fix a broken new jersey. when i look at what we've accomplished so far, i'm proud. but i know we are not nearly done. >> christie's announcement as a new poll shows support for perry falling after weeks of defending his record while herman cain is rising after much praised debate performance. >>> meteorologist mike nicco talking about a break beforer in storm? >> definitely, the calm before the next storm will affect the sierra. winter storm warning up there and how heavy the rain is going to be around here the next 2 to 48 hours. >>> plus, -- bart unveils a wheelchair ramp in the east bay. advocates say there are major things missing. >> south bay teacher who got a surprise gift. unbelievable gift today for the classroom. >>> a transportation security administration at new york kennedy's airport apolo

at the state department secretary of state hillary clinton will be joined by former secretaries kissinger, albright and powell marking the 50th anniversary of the diplomatic reception rooms. it's where the secretary of state hosts visiting dignitaries and showcases american art dating back centuries. >>> religious leaders gather in washington, shopping for a week's worth of groceries on the average food stamp allotment. with the program's budget at risk, the food stamp challenge is part of the religious community's effort to draw attention to hunger and poverty in america. >>> and actor/comedian john cleese turns 72. >>> all day long you can stay on top of the latest developments of those storys and others as they break on msnbc. tonight be sure to watch brian williams with "nbc nightly news." >>> finally, here's a look at what's coming up later this morning on the "today" show. a report on ruth madoff's revelation that she and her husband, convicted ponzi schemer, bernie madoff, attempted suicide after the scandal broke. and aerosmith's steven tyler sets the record straight on rumors sur

i wrote about henry kissinger. if we read his no bell peace prize he wouldn't like some of it. it's very very hard. and he was, jobs was very smart about that. he said don't worry. i mean he thought he was going to be arou and i hoped the book would be out when he was alive. he kept saying don't worry i'm not even going to read it when it come out. >> charlie: how was it different writing this beyond the obvious. he was alive, franklin was dead. einstein was dead. >> it was astonishingly different in ways i hadn't thought of. two ways in particular. most biographers know very little really about the intimate details about their subject. and i realized how much you can actually know. i almost fell i knew more about him than i knew about myself. he was remembering things that happened to him when he was young. i was thinking, you know, it's hard for me to remember it that much. and so it was a whole, you don't have that our leaders. there are very few leaders, i can't ink of any who have been so open so that you really have a pretty full record. now there will be other people who

to nomination. >> brown: and we saw new attention to herman kane. >> i actually have seen henry kissingerjustin bieber concert. he's way over top. it's the season. mark talked about this in the past. the primary cycle has its own emotional rhythm. in the early day you go for the guy who gives you the thrill, whether it's howard dean or herman cain, but then you have to decide who will be president and go with the more established choice. there is no question there is suspicion of romney. there is no question he will never excite people. there will never be passionate support. that's probably pretty healthy, i think, in retrospect. but people are suspicious. what does he believe? they're suspicious about the health care issue, obviously. how could a guy we like get elected in massachusetts? i think at the end of it they'll fit comfortably. it's amazing how much better he is than he was four years ago, just much, much better and that speaks to a process of self-assessment and self-correction, which is pretty impressive. i can't recall seeing a candidate improve that much over four years. >>

i've looked at the writings of henry kissinger, k.c. mcfarland, someone i respect. >> would you describe yourself as a neoconservative then? >> i'm not sure what you mean by neoconservative. i am conservative, yes. neoconservative, labels sometimes will put you in a box. i'm very conservative. >> you're familiar with the neoconservative movement? >> i'm not familiar with the neoconservative movement? i'm familiar with the conservative movement. let me define what i mean by the conservative moment p less government, less taxes, more individu responsibility. >> were the wars in iraq and afghanistan a miake? >> i don't think the war in iraq was a mistake. because there were a lot of other reasons we needed to go to iraq and there have been a lot of benefits that have come out of iraq. now that being said, i don't agrewith the president's approach to draw down 40,000 troops and basically leave that country open to attacks by iran. iran has already said that they want to wait until america leaves -- >> spresident cain would want even beyond

we've already heard the reports henry kissinger had come to him, a lot of big donors had come to him. so he felt he needed to take another look at it. i am told that he came very close to getting in. people pushed him very hard on the politics of getting in but, in the end, he decided exactly what he's been saying for the last year was he's not ready yet but he owes it to the people of new jersey to finish his job. it was the tipping point so we can ebbs inspect him to come out at 1:00 and announce that he will not be getting into the race this time. thomas is this. >> as you point out it has to be seductive to hear from all these people, especially henry kissinger and the farmers, as you point out, all across the board of wanting him to throw his hat into the ring. do you think this was a family decision? >> i really think -- i was told earlier that his family was behind him, that they had said to him whatever you want to do, that they would support, and so i don't think it was at all his wife or kids objecting to it. i think that they would have supported his getting in. i think tha

psyche is that there was actually a negotiated end to that war nine hundred seventy three henry kissinger in the north signed a peace deal in paris. and unfortunately the north vietnamese did violated and then they pushed forward two years later and captured saigon and you remember the pictures of the helicopters taking off from the roof of the u.s. embassy so i think in the minds of a lot of american decision makers of that generation that's the idea of you should first of all never negotiate so much better when and if you do negotiate you know those guys will cheat you violate it so it's better not to negotiate and i think that's really damaging because actually that's the russians found out in the mid eighty's the only way to get out of afghanistan is to negotiate a withdrawal and they did quite successfully do that and the americans have to do it too i think the obama administration has to recognize as mikhail gorbachev did in one thousand nine hundred five that this war is unwinnable it's just a long war of attrition americans won't be defeated by such in a pitched battle but nor wil

henry kissinger line that it's dangerous to be america's enemy but it's even more dangerous to be its friend holds true once again because the was working with the united states and yet when washington decided to kind of ride the wave of the arab spring they thought they could get something out of this he was dispensable and they killed him and i think the lesson that will be learned by major powers certainly like russia and china but also smaller third world powers is don't work with the united states it doesn't say they might like you for five years and then offer you the next so that's now and this is going to my last question where do you think that libya stands as a warning to the world that any regime can be toppled by nato powers. yes to a certain extent however i think any small regime that is a third world power and if america turns against them if they decide to jump on some bandwagon like the arab spring yes they are willing to use nato however you know you hear a lot of these maniacs like john mccain and and others who are frightening clinton and russia or something like t

>> i should defer to henry kissinger on who had the best team. the three of us worked well together. we had all worked together before. back in the four years, -- ford years, i had been the chief of staff, jim managed the campaign. there was a well established a set of relationships. there were a couple of other rules we were bound by. we got together every wednesday morning for breakfast. the status of the various departments learned --the staffs of the various departments learned that if he wanted to get something decided to get it on the agenda for that meeting. they knew we were talking to each other all the time. it cut down the amount of noise inside the system. it cut down the amount of leaks that otherwise would have occurred. jim and brent and i, nobody occurred jim of not leaking. we worked hard to avoid those kinds of conflict that would come out of that. i think we were successful. our personal relationship was good. >> best job you have ever had? >> each one was different and unique. if i had to pick one out that was at the top of th

staff or a secret committee on the itself which has happened many times before eisenhower kissinger and so forth without having the president's imprimatur on it and that would be a presidential finding authorizing this committee oversight of j. saw for example which would be the entity that would watch the reapers watch the predators that would do the assassination and when director with the cia that's the only way i can see you coming down so i have to come back to my supposition that the president has authorized us all right brian thank you so much for joining us tonight truly. still has occupy wall street rages on in numbers really show that alarming rate at which poverty rose across the west last year that welch editor in chief of reason magazine joins us to discuss the issue of interest and. if the police believe anything. what a fantastic nobody seems to know. that it will break the case quite horribly are going to get being overly dramatic. story seems so whole i understand it. to some other part of it and i realized. the big. well occupy wall street is now in its second month an

staff or a secret committee on the end of it which has happened many times before eisenhower kissinger and so forth without having the president's imprimatur on it and that would be a presidential finding authorizing this committee oversight of j. saw for example which would be the entity that would watch the reapers watch the predators that would do the assassination in conjunction with the that's the only way i can see it coming down so i have to come back to my supposition that the president has authorized his right lawrence i want to thank you so much for joining us tonight drew. still ahead as occupy wall street rages on in numbers really show that alarming rate at which poverty rose across the u.s. last year that welch editor in chief of reason magazine joins us to discuss these issues. really believe there's something. some real in. the future however. walk by wall street is now in its second month and we've seen the movement spread to cities across the u.s. we even saw global day of action on october fifteenth and as the time keeps going by the momentum grows we watch to one si

. >> kissinger did it, too, where he had his hand on -- >> oh, i'm sorry. >> we are still doing these very unpredictable moments which i think the people at home love. >> good job, brian! >> in the beginning it was like headline news. can i say that on fox? and then we went totally loose. >> we want to hear conversation. we are offering it in a smart and intelligent way, too. the issues of the day. >> the fox brand has a reputation for being edgy, it's movies, television shows and sports have always been innovative and fearless when it comes to taking risks. >> we are back. >> but in heart, news corp chairman and ceo rupert murdoch has always been a newsman and he was committed to starting a first-class news operation that, too, would be innovative and cutting edge. >> we can announce the starting of a fox news channel. >> i knew that rupert is the kind of man that took risks and put money at risk to back them. >> mr. murdoch hit his faith in fox news charm and ceo, roger ailes. from the beginning roger ailes clearly stated the mission of fox news. to report all sides of the the story

. >> kissinger did it, too, where he had his hand on -- >> oh, i'm sorry. >> we are still doing these very unpredictable moments which i think the people at home love. >> good job, brian! >> in the beginning it was like headline news. can i say that on fox? and then we went totally loose. >> we want to hear conversation. we are offering it in a smart and intelligent way, too. the issues of the day. >> the fox brand has a reputation for being edgy, it's movies, television shows and sports have always been innovative and fearless when it comes to taking risks. >> we are back. >> but in heart, news corp chairman and ceo rupert murdoch has always been a newsman and he was committed to starting a first-class news operation that, too, would be innovative and cutting edge. >> we can announce the starting of a fox news channel. >> i knew that rupert is the kind of man that took risks and put money at risk to back them. >> mr. murdoch hit his faith in fox news charm and ceo, roger ailes. from the beginning roger ailes clearly stated the mission of fox news. to report all sides of the the story

you did not sweat and i did but i came up with an idea trying to help you guys if i could be your kissingeriddle ground, get off the idea of closing loopholes, but a faction hike you could technically argue yes, but it stops what you guys are against, conversely, pulling in the growth often titles is not killing entitlements but trying to save those entitlements but i wasn't getting anywhere. has anymore progress been made on either front? >>guest: what you offer makes sense because we need to have tax reform in this country. it is a major discussion in the debates now. >>neil: but is this the package to do it, this debate cutting another $1 trillion? >>guest: i don't that now between now and november 23rd they can do it. we need the spending under control. >>neil: we talked to a couple of colleagues in the house of representatives and said maybe we should stop the sequestration to begin with, the super committee, and the medicine could be too pain will, just remove the medicine. >>guest: well, that sends the markets, the international markets the message which is catastrophic. >>neil: then

he said, i have to get this box to henry kissinger. sebelius said, i have demands for you, pat roberts. he is a former marine. he opens up the box and i look in and say, what is this? it was a huge ball of tin foil. i said, i just have a top- secret clearance. this is much higher than that. [laughter] i should not be seen that. there is a guy you should go meet. that is bill katz olver in bob dole's office. >> he said, ok. bob dole? i said, you are going to see bill katz. i called the secretaries. i said, we have a guy with a big box and he is going to make a big contribution. [laughter] in he went. i did not answer the phone for about three days. i will tell you how we got things done. right in the middle of the grain harvest, they said they would change the criteria in the way the grain goes across the stale. they had stopped the kansas harvest. by that time, i thought i was somebody. i was a member of congress. i said, we have to put a stop to this. i knew the meeting was held at 10:00. all the agricultural groups -- i told them, we