on those three counts kissinger emerges as an idealist.in the harvard of the 1950s, what made his contribution distinctive and made him stand out from the pack of people who thought the cold war with systems analysis or something. >> you are watching booktv on c-span2 and we are looking about his programs with fellows from stanford university's hoover institution, public policy think tank founded in 1919 by stanford alumnus president herbert hoover. up next, john u who worked in the office of legal counsel at the justice department during the george bush administration spoke at the commonwealth club in san francisco in 2012 about his co-authored book taming globalization. >> let me briefly describe the case in texas, explain how that encapsulates a lot of the issues in taming globalization. it is a case of a mexican national who crossed the border and committed murder, capital murder and was sentenced to death by the state court in texas, he was not given his warnings under the the in a conventions which require that when an alien is arres

ran wings wind rodgers because nixon res need he kissinger's billans and he could learn from kissinger on important policy and rodgers had nothing to teach nixon what was quite the strategist when it came to foreign policy. so sometimes you have a swags where the national security advisor can kind of run rings around the secretary of state and similar live the issue in the carter administration where there was constant fighting between -- and the knew each other and had dinner the night of the election and talk about how the prospect of them working together and in the first day of the carter administration, zoo buying sis this phone rings from the president and this phone rings from the secretary of state and he shouts yank it out. work for the president, not for vans. ... the secretary of defense he would up and up with kissinger's shenanigans and he would push back against kissinger and his much more effective as secretary of defense than rogers was able to be secretary of state because it kind of scared off kissinger. he was a bit of a bureaucratic bully. so i think people are very

in the nixon administration, kissinger was the national security advisor and it's hard for us remembernow we see him as a guru on foreign policy. whose conflict threatened by william rogers who is the secretary of state and nay nixon demonstration who knew eisenhower and then kissinger ran around rogers because nixon allowed it. he recognized kissinger's of brilliance and learn from him on foreign policy and rogers had nothing to teach nixon he is quite the strategist when it came to foreign policy. sometimes you have a situation for the national security adviser can run rings about around the secretary of state. similarly as in the carter administration with this constant fighting these guys knew each other before the administration and had dinner before the election and talked about working together. on the first day of the carter administration he's briefed on his administration council and his phone rings from the president's phone rings and a secretary of state line heals yank it out, i work for the president not for them. so the first day of the administration he was already sayi

here is something henry kissinger said on this program with william f. buckley jr. in 1993. take a look. >> don't we need to begin by deserting the egalitarian myth that all countries are the same. >> but there are some countries that give us a particular problem because they're a threat to the peace of the world and to our own security, or to the stability of the area, such as north korea, such as iran. and we would be prepared to take stroer and preempive meures. >> does president trump understand that basic onidea. >> i think he does, but i'm glad to see henry kissinger add coe- - advocating. >> president trump is willing to negotiate with adversaries than es, his conversations with justinarrudeau were from amicable, and clear he didn't like theresa may, primeinister of great britain, and you described the relationship he had with kim jong un and presidenter president erdogan as a pbromanc. who is president trump's favorite authoritarian. >> i think it' xi jinping, and concern.ls me with great if you watch, on a number of occasions, donald trump on the posite side of the

>> it's great question as a former white house staffer personality is obviously an issue kissinger was sharp. also a guy i cannot imagine that there are a few people who would try to do policy about the fight and in the reagan administration you have ed meese who was the advisor to reagan but he didn't get the chief staff job that he was disorganize it's known as a place where papers go into don't come out or the black hole the only object may give in the book is the nickname for his briefcase. but he also said i will not leak because it also hurt the president so that was a higher idea of what they are trying to accomplish with a policy perspective but i will do what i can to be unilaterally disarming. but then on the policy side to have a strong disagreement about direction. and the policy is a variable. >> we have another question what are those factors with a chief of staff and cabinet secretary? >> it's a good question. the chief of staff is above everybody else but at the same time for what he does in his meeting sometimes you get ahead of himself so as we mentioned earlier when

mercury news reports former secretary of defense james mattis and former secretary of state henry kissinger may be held to testify. both served on the board of directors for failed blood testing startup. also on that list, former u.s. senator sam nunn and robert shapiro. this is all according to a court filing. holmes faces dozens of felony fraud counts. >>> san francisco is getting ready to get help from sacramento in trying to keep peoplemake it in the bay. $130 million is coming from sacramento for affordable housing, transportation and infrastructure projects. $80 million will support affordable units. the other $50 million will finance improvements at sunnydale and potrero hope sf and treasure island and yerba buena island. >>> the nfl plans to play the black national anthem ahead of each game of the upcoming season. this is the league's latest effort to show increased awareness about systemic racism. last month the league pledged $250 over ten years to social justice causes. the songzed as the black national anthem. it will be played along with the star stapang elled banner befor each

clearly could not be allowed because it goes against the us imperial plan which dick cheney and henry kissinger drew up a crayon 2 back in 1909 so what happened only 3 days later april 7th $28.00 reports began emerging of alleged chemical attacks in the city of duma what are the odds that within days of trump telling the pentagon to withdraw bashar al assad decides to use the one weapon that will guarantee american forces continue attacking him. a minute saad may not be a chess player but i also don't think he ate that many paint chips as a kid and sure enough over the past 2 years we've now seen for whistle blowers are merged to challenge the cover up of the chemical weapons probe they say there was no chemical weapons attack but a status of a propaganda piece any day and twice on sunday the full story succeeded in keeping america an entrenched in syria finally let's move to north korea trump threatened to create peace with kim jong un simply saying he would attempt such a thing sent weapons contractor stocks just crashing to the ground you know one of the many reasons that peace had to be sto

that science is generating progress for everybody you know there is this famous thing that every kissinger said about you know that about fights and the academic world that the fights are vo so vicious because the stakes are so small you know for once these are not small stakes all the rockefeller foundation has put out what is really a playbook for what needs to happen do you have any sense of confidence that the that the guardrails in that will be adopted or do you think this is going to be a battle that we're going to be fighting that you're going to be fighting for quite a long time yet to get your recommendations on contact tracing and testing in place . i'm actually somewhat optimistic cautiously optimistic the republicans in the senate right now are crafting a bill which is a response to a bill that was passed by the house the house bill had $75000000000.00 for testing and context raising republicans in the senate the last news reported they're proposing 25000000000 you know the normal course would be there'd be some back in force in the horse trade i think they'll end up closer to

let's get to that instruction let's get out of that destruction rio tinto famously financing henry kissinger in the past when accused. by china of espionage rio tinto has apologized and said it was a misunderstanding when it destroyed the 46000 year old archaeology in the education gorge on may the 24th during the 2nd at a virus pandemic can you forgive rio tinto for destroying it and annihilating the put a container kora people's culture. well of course you never could forgive them and you can't forgive other companies like behaved p. woodside. they're all environmental bandits capitalized on the wealth of the minerals ally and the ground of aboriginal people's land they export those minerals to places like china it's a massive economic return to this country and astray grows very wealthy and privileged in the western sense of our finance and aboriginal people to whom you know reside in remote communities and that i handle knows when rules are impoverished to the groups of 3rd world conditions and look you can't. even comprehend the destruction of the jew can gorge you've there were 2 cape

> does president trump idearstand that basic >> i don't think he does, but i'm glad to see henry kissinger add coe -- advocating. li>> president trump is w to negotiate with adversaries than allies, his conversations with r justin trudeau far from amicable, and clear he didn't like theresa may, prime ministe of great britain, and you described the relationship he presidenter jong un and president erdogan as apbromance. who is president trump's favorite authoritarian. >> i think it's xi jinping, and that fills me with great concern. if you watch, on a number of occasions, donald trump on thei opposite of the table of xi jinping, vladimir putin, kim jong un, it's not fair fight. they are extraordinarily focused, hard headed, knowledgeable, experienced and thoroughly ruthless, so they s donald tmp on the other side, and it's not a fair fight. so if you're on the pro-american side, it's something to be worried about. >> why does he have a blind spot to when it comes to authoritarian leaders? >> you know, i can't elain it. i'm not a shrink myself. i'm not going to attempt to explain it in terms

when kissinger and nixon opened up the door to us china relations i think there was an acknowledgment at the time or at least a hope that what might happen is that there would not only be a peaceful rise which of course everyone wants and everyone agrees with generally but they also were presuming that if there was enough exposure to the west if there was a good relationship between the u.s. and china and the west more generally that you know china would gradually liberalized politically and it would change into something other than what it was of course that didn't happen and i think the reason that it shows that venue is because if he had known that maybe that wasn't going to happen that maybe he would have thought twice about exactly how he did what he did but that all said i think the u.s. government the u.s. people they certainly acknowledge that china is a very important and significant country it's not going anywhere i don't think the american the american government know what no matter what it's come composition would dream of suggesting that china is not going to continue its

at the nixon library and in it you said he misunderstood history he misunderstood what nixon and kissinger were trying to do with china at that time tell us more. good to be with you steve the secretary of state suggested that the engagement policy which china had there because it did bring about a trainer that was more open and liberal politically or economically and what i argued is that was never the intention that was never the girl the policy aim to change chinese foreign policy to work with china and enemy of the soviet union and in fact it succeeded we won the cold war on terms even enough to miss would have difficulty coming up with. but isn't it partially true that in later steps like bringing china into the world trade organization bringing it into various international institutions the thought would was that those institutions would liberalize it but if there was some who had arrived to what was overly optimistic view of what to expect once we brought china into those institutions i also think that we made certain mistakes that after china was brought into the w i don't think we

tom: we are far beyond nixon and kissinger, even farther beyond shouldhanghai, how a joe biden administrationcond term trump administration support taiwan? meredith: starting with preparing a relationship with china where you have a communications channel and you are able to provide your views of what would be best for stability across the taiwan strait. that is the way you are able to help partners in taiwan elevate their message in beijing. without that active channel, and to my knowledge now, there is not one at a senior enough level, that will be a challenge for taiwan's leader as well as the u.s. in terms of protecting taiwan's long-term interest. a joe biden administration is going to have difficulties in quickly shifting its relationship with china. should you see that administration. that is just because there was little trust before. there is no trust now. withis coming at a time the u.s. trying to shift, we see, over the next year, president xi is going to have longer-term challenges that markets are not necessarily baking in just yet. at howe: when you look china has dealt with the

i began to listen to the tapes of president nixon talking to his staff members, talking to henry kissinger, talking to his filipino valet. and i particularly remember what we called the tape of tapes which was richard nixon taping himself listening to tapes. and i was one of several people whose job it was to try to in so far as possible perfect the transcription. so, we would sit there with the headphones on just exhaustingly listening trying to make out words. some of the transcription had already occurred, but some of it was garbled. it was not at all clear. but the tape of tapes was a big revelation to me. i had no idea that he would be taping himself listening to tapes and then coming up with rationalizations. so, he would call somebody into the room, and he would say i want to play this for you. now, when i said that, here's what i meant. so, it was quite a -- it was really a shocking experience. >> when do you think you concluded that the president, then president, was involved in a cover up? >> i think for me it was listening to the tapes, and particularly the so-called tape of tap

but the nixon administration became convinced in part because of secretary kissinger, who made particularlystrong arguments that if you do not stop this, if you don't stop these leaks, where is it going to stop? and you have got to be able to stop this kind of broad scale leaking of classified and dangerous information, or there is no stopping point. and we will have no credibility in the rest of the world about our ability to keep secrets if we can't keep this secret. this was 7000 pages of material. >> you mentioned president nixon nixon and a character in our story tonight and what should people know about his relationship with the press, as we get into this case? >> floyd knows much more about this than i do, but i think anybody who lived during that period or anyone who studied it knows that president nixon was not a fan of the press. >> and you can say -- >> vice versa. he didn't like the press because they had been critical of him. they portrayed him in ways in which he did not like. and he was very concerned about the vulnerability, his vulnerability to the press. this was a hostile

next year marks half a century since doctor kissinger's mission to china.22. the world was much different then. we imagined engagement would produce a future with bright promise of cooperation, but today we are all still wearing masks and watching the pandemic rise. including here in southern california and we are watching a chinese military that grows stronger and stronger and indeed more menacing. i will echo the questions ringing in the hearts and minds to my home state of kansas and beyond. what do the american people have to show now 50 years on from engagement with china is this the definition of a win-win situation and indeed some trolling from the secretary of state's perspective do we have a greater likelihood of peace for ourselves and the generations that will follow us we have decided tha with the truth in te years and decades to come up the chinese century of which he dreams, but the old paradigm is simply won't get it done. we must not continue it and not return to it. as president trump has made clear we need to protect our way of life throug

at the nixon library and in it you said he misunderstood history he misunderstood what nixon and kissinger were trying to do with china at that time tell us more. good to be with you steve the secretary of state suggested that the engagement policy with china had because it did bring about a china that was more open and liberal politically or economically and when i argued is that was never the intention that was never the goal though the policy aim to change chinese foreign policy to work with china against the common enemy of the soviet union and in fact it succeeded we won the cold war on terms that even an optimist would have would have had difficulty coming up but isn't it partially true that in later steps like bringing china into the world trade organization bringing it into various international institutions the thought would was that those institutions would liberalize it but if there was some who had when i thought it was overly optimistic view of what to expect once we brought china into those institutions i also think that we made certain mistakes that after china was brought i

kissinger writes about that.where he could have ingrained himself in america's eyes, he could have engraved himself on america's heart, he instead sealed himself off from america. there was something poignant about that. it wasn't enough. here he had one this incredible bylection and i was struck the similarities between that and mr. trump, for whom nothing is ever enough. in nixon's case, perhaps with the benefit of the intervening years it seems now poignant. remotelycurrently not poignant in the case of mr. trump. i would use another word, pathetic. host: let's go back to our phone lines and go to dan who was calling from new york city, new york on the independent line. caller: hey, chris. long-standing fan of yours. read most of your books. i noticed you are not j band of derivative sequels, but -- not a fan of derivative sequels, but if you're book is a bestseller you have an opportunity for a trilogy here. there is low hanging fruit in china, north korea, be even he ran. -- iran. guest: being a loyal fan yo

circumstances because my top management team coming through with treatment of terminal cancer and kissinger and all my advisors said let him come. so i contacted the president and prime minister of iran and told them i was contemplating coming - - letting the shock and for treatment and i wanted assurances they would protect and at that time there were 8000 americans in iran working in different forces including the embassy. they sent me where they would guarantee nothing would happen to americans if the shock came to new york provided there is no political statement while he was in america. and he gave me that assurance. but then, to the surprise of me and to the president of iran, iran, the militants took over and when the ayatollah after three days supported the capture and the holding of the hostages and the president and prime minister resigned in protest. this was the beginning of a long ordeal holding hostages so i don't believe i would have done anything different the main advice i got was to bomb iran. but i was convinced then and still and that if i had done so i would kill 10000

shanghai,over in yesterday on twitter, a photo of their acclaimed british room where henry kissinger night before he went to beijing to change history. are we giving up all that was accomplished in the early 1970's? richard: it's too soon to say that. we don't know how much of this and thecal, political, run-up to november. we will have to see what happens. this is extreme. ironic that the speech took place at the nixon library. nixon was willing to find common cause with china, despite all of our fundamental political and social differences. yesterday, the secretary of state ignored the potential to work together despite our political differences, and instead harped on those differences. it is as if he is looking for a fight with china. and again, this relationship, anytime you have a relationship between a rising power and existing power, it is difficult. it calls for really subtle, deft statecraft on both sides. whatever else you want to call yesterday's speech, i would not use words like subtle and deft. jonathan: what is the strategy at the moment? can you identify what it is? r

kissinger is secret missing to china and the 50th anniversary of president nixon's trip isn't too farwe imagined engagement with china. we produce a future with bright promise, with cooperation but today, today we're also wearing masks and watching the pandemic body can't write because the ccp failed in his promise to the wilbur we're reading every morning new headlines of repression in hong kong and in xinjiang. we are seeing statistic of chinese trade abuses the cost american jobs and strike in those close to the economy's all across america including here in southern california and we are watching a chinese military that grows stronger and stronger and indeed more menacing. i'll echo the questions bring in hearts and minds of americans from here in california to my home state of kansas and beyond. what do the american people have to show now 50 years on from engagement with china? did the theories of our leaders that propose a chinese evolution towards freedom and democracy proved to be true? is this china's definition of a win-win situation? and indeed centrally, from the secretar

. >> i think it was kissinger saying europe was the number. in u.s. there is one agency, listen to learn from this crisis is that if we could have one centralized eu data, let's say, would make it next time very more efficient in terms of dealing with these kinds of diseases. >> reporter: the four-country strong european alliance has now reached one deal, for 400,000 vaccines with astrazeneca. and their first vaccines will now go not to european countries but to the uk. their former eu partner, melissa bell, cnn, paris. >>> back here in the u.s. now, the state of texas is dealing with storms on two fronts. it's feeling the impact of hurricane hanna. it made landfall on padre island several hours ago, lashing the coast with winds of 90 miles per hour. we'll have more on that in a few minutes. but communities in that same area have also seen a spike in coronavirus cases and hospitalizations. in texas alone, more than 8,000 new infections and nearly 170 deaths were reported saturday. cnn's ed lavandera has been talking about doctors and families of patie

there is pretty some people say is kissinger's magic scoring over the present. not i. he calls the shots and he faces up to the tough ones. and write an awful lot. but you must know that i have been disappointed and disillusioned by collective has been revealed about the man from watergate and other sources. he has an enormous hang ups. it is unable to get close to people. it's almost like he's afraid he will be framed in some way. people respect him i want to be friends get alyssa close and then in his car, no more. his norms hangups and other things pretty refers often to the ivy league with total contempt, and with all kinds of unlovely hangups coming through. he had a very stunned, look around at the marquette the table. remarks made george schultz, fred, any more. i expect in the cabinet. all appointed by him. his comments r beneath his greatness but they possibly explain watergate a little. there was a regular and skip. there's an arrogance about some ivy league condition in his bed. i remember yelm the vietnam war. his unwillingness to preserve a climate on camp

i was a young age to richard nixon and henry kissinger at that time.r as if it was yesterday. that set american foreign policy with china in a certain direction for 50 years, he was right. our thoughts, republican and democrat alike was as china modernizes and comes into the world, they will be an open society, open economy, but that's not how it turned out. the chinese have exploited that and in fact that's why pompeo was at the nixon library today, he's indicating we now have a reverse, we are now acknowledging the fact that the chinese have stolen intellectual property rights, have militarized the south china sea, have unleashed a bio weapon onto the world, have practiced wolf diplomacy and we in the trump administration, we in the united states are going to have a very different approach to china going forward and that's exactly what he was telling you. when he was in copenhagen, or london, he was talking to america's allies about getting the coalition together so they can together stand up to china. >> martha: what does china's coalition look like

since henry kissinger's days and forward, there's been strategic ambiguity about our policies betweena bill next week that's going to be called the taiwan invasion prevention act, and this is something that's going to lay very clear what our intent is. in fact, it'll go to the point where it authorizes an aumf if china invades taiwan, and it'll be a sunset for five years that would authorize the president to use force. right now our agreement, and this came out of ronald reagan's presidency, is that we would sell taiwan enough weapons for them to defend themselves. but when xi jinping has announced that he's ready to draw blood over taiwan and reunify them, they forgot to ask taiwan. taiwan's never been part of the prc, nor do they want to. there needs to be peaceful negotiations, and, you know, we'll see how this pans out. lou: congressman ted owe -- ted yoho, we appreciate it. good to see you. >>> up next, new research shows the president's overwhelming support from evangelicals. pastor robert jeffress joins us next. we'll be talking about some politics and some very serious, seriou

library is going to give a major speech on the future of our china policy in light of what nixon and kissingered to do 50 years ago. it's my understanding, lou, that president trump has approved this speech. pompeo will be speaking for the president, and this will be the blueprint of what happens next. lou: well, what happens next is, without question, it's all up to the chinese at this point. they are going to run into the superpower if they want to continue to prod, you know, this great nation as they have been doing now for is so long. they do not understand when the president talked about balance and responsibility in a trading relationship, my god, they're taken that to a level that is, even for the chinese, arrogant beyond measure. they are actually playing with military threats here when just six months ago -- that is, before they unleashed the virus on the unsuspecting world -- they were preparing to move into the network of commerce, the global network of commerce as a mature and responsible nation. they now look like the thugs most communists are. >> i notice, lou, that just yesterda

when my brother came back from switzerland, he was the man behind kissinger at the geneva conference. he came back and he said this b.s. i said what? he said we have world problems to contend with. ofyou come from a family serious achievers. ms. grinnell: yes, i do. >> any insight? ms. grinnell: no, not at all. i am glad i did. your work in the school district and as a counselor, were there racial issues that ?ame up question mar a. grinnell: yes, and i wrote three page typewritten letter. they are going to say it's not racial, but it is. we did expulsions. we had a hearing. brought that did -- knives, guns, weapons, etc.. we would say you were either straight expelled or suspended expelled. that means you are either kicked out of the district or suspended from school. we had a kid who, without any names, who was involved in drugs. because his parents had money, he was white, they didn't kick him out. i was so angry. i was one of three on the committee. i told the other two committee people who were white, i said you know he is guilty. they said he is going to go to college. i said so

regarding your firing line interview with henry kissinger from a qualified to be professional objectively concerned american, number one, the manner in which you said as word. do you remember this? >> guest: no. c-span: can't you sit upright in an adult fashion? in a single shots, you appear tilted, and two shots use it and as if your guest has been no. number two, in questioning you appear rude, you don't ask questionquestions up against eve whose opinions you favor with your questions come in a long form of interrogation. three, you always come up with a personal insecurity of them on the profits attempting to show what you know. you answer him. the first thing you say is no, i can't think straight, congenital. but when you get a letter like this, first of all -- >> guest: what was my comment? c-span: what is your comment? most people don't talk about it out loud. if you think my questions are long, try socrates. three, i want to share what i know on the subject after all i spent three hours reading up on it the night before. have you ever jumped out of an airplane at midnight with a pa

next year, it marks half a century since doctor kissinger's secret mission to china and 50th anniversarytrip is not too far away in 2022. the world was much different than. we imagined engagement with china would produce a future with bright promise of cooperation. but today, we are all still wearing masks and watching the pandemic body count rise because the sissi de failed in its promises to the world. we are reading every morning new headlines of repression and hong kong. we are seeing staggering staggering statistics of china's trade abuses -- across america including here in southern california. we are watching a chinese military that grows stronger and stronger and indeed more menacing. . i will echo the questions in the hearts and minds of americans here in america and to my home state of kansas and beyond. with the american people have to show now 50 years on from engagement with china? the theories of our leaders that proposed chinese evolution towards freedom and democracy prove to be true. is this china's definition of a win-win situation? indeed, centrally, from secretary of