kissinger and mr. ford. in many instances we have made agreements like in vietnam that have been revealed later on to embarrassment. recently the president of rhodesia announced he had unequivocal commitments from mr. kissinger he could -- the american people don't know what those commitments are. we have seen in the past the destruction of elected governments like in chile and the strong support of military dictatorship there. these have hurt us very much. i would restore the concept of the fireside chat which was an integral part of the administration of franklin roosevelt. and i would also restore the involvement of the congress. when harry truman was president he was not afraid to have a strong secretary of defense. -- secretary of state. he also made sure there was a bipartisan support with member's of congress. they were part of the process and before our nation they do secret agreement and before we made a public statement we were sure that we had the backing not only the president and the secretary o

it a very predictable result of and kissinger was policies. but they did manage to offload the culpability for it onto. the democrats and the congress and on to the south vietnamese government what nixon did after a decent interval deal was inform congress that he willing to accept a ban on any military intervention in indochina not just vietnam, but laos and cambodia and gerald ford at the time he was house minority leader brought that that position of nixon's to the floor for a vote and it was so to everybody who thought that nixon would never let saigon fall, that they didn't actually believe nixon supporters, didn't believe ford at the time. so he had to leave the house floor called nixon and and get his assurance that yes, he would in fact accept congress tying his hands. so when when ford was actually president, he didn't he didn't ask to give him the opportunity to intervene in vietnam, which was theoretically the only thing that could prevent a communist takeover. he did have a debate over how much aid to give south vietnam. it could d

and so kissinger often argued that, you know, how how could. go into this, you know, without recognize that they're building something they don't completely know how to control. and therefore, you know, you need to you need to think longer term about what these outcomes are going to be and then work your way back world. if you just you know, naively progressed down the path. yes, you may not end up in a place you like well and a place you don't like could be. there's any number of orwellian style futures could construct here. there's also these kind of huxley in style futures is where i imagine one of the sort of privileges of thinking about superintelligence is we can make it arbitrary early, charming, inventive fun to spend time with, etc., such that if we had somebody was a human choosing to nearly all their time in. the company of super intelligences, that's a lot more fun than dealing limited fellow humans. is that a success mode or a failure mode? it depends what your ultimate objective is and it in some ways look i'm not a philosopher in

which is again what nixon and kissinger did with the apollo-soyuz.it was a stunt and showed that there was a potential beyond war. thank you. >> thank you. and that's an excellent question. i wish one of us onto the stage where a space expert here, , but since we're not i hope you won't mind if i i tell your questioa little bit to think about a apollo-soyuz moment may be in the food and agriculture space, but that would look like. or in the global health space, what that could look like here so, maybe i will turn to caitlin to start. i'll put you on his part and then caroline and then we'll move to global health. >> thank you. thanks, lily, i appreciate your attitude without great question. there could be if it were regarding a technology that could be beneficial to agriculture in both countries but that wouldn't be, there wouldn't be sufficient about things like force technote transfer something like that. i am thinking of an area like food loss and waste which is something that we discussed in our convening where there's enormous problems in both c

the just one example is a henry kissinger who died recently. but is one of the most blood sites will criminals of the 20th century. he came to columbia university when i was there, and i found that he comes, came every year, and that's the kind of speak can pontificate about the politics and blah, blah, blah. and he was accepted as a sort of a kind of a wound cuddly statesman. and i was in the re way of winning his speaking and i put my hand up and i just said, how do you sleep at night? and the whole room just like you to go. i could pay in order to goest and then everything is silent. and he said, do you think you are more useful period to me? and that's an easy question to also when is henry kissinger you're asking you. so i said yes. and he said, and then he went okay, there was a bit of back and forth. he was like, well the, the stuff to you, bradley, who lives blah, blah, blah. but interestingly off to that, i was attacked massively by the faculty itself. one of the they to a system here that will criminals. what exactly they thought the,

and that's an easy question to also when is henry kissinger awesome. you said yes and he said, and then he went okay, there was a bit of back and forth. he was like, well the, the stuff you, bright is who lives, blah, blah, blah. but interestingly off to that, i was attacked massively by the faculty itself. one of the they took us history about here that will criminals last. exactly like the what i did was disgraceful, and one came up to me often and said, you disgraced yourself the other day. i go by saying 0 support, but that is very um, telling about what columbia university's role is to whitewash and to support essentially american war criminals and make the actions seeing what was told is a little while ago during a world of law and blah, blah, blah, so the night with all normal exceptions, jeffrey sachs, i know victoria newland and hillary clinton in there at the moment. no jeffrey sites, it's amazing that he's going to join isn't school. i'm focused is to get out of genesis. what is most of the great academic throughout colombia and also there a

and that's an easy question to also when is henry kissinger you're asking you. so i said yes. and he said, and then he went okay, there was a bit of back and forth. he was like, well the, the stuff you've read, his lives, blah, blah blah. but interesting, the often that i was attacked massively by the faculty itself. one of the they to us history mostly that will cover those last. exactly. i don't know what i did was disgraceful, and one came up to me often and said, you disgraced yourself the other day. i go by saying 0 support, but that is very telling about what columbia university's role is to whitewash and to support essentially american war criminals. and make the actions seeing pop, what we're told is a liberal world older and uh, what was lower and blah, blah blah. so the with all normal exceptions. jeffrey sachs, i know victoria newland and hillary clinton are there at the moment. no, jeffrey sites is amazing, but he's going to join isn't school. i'm talking specifically about the dentist, but it's also have a great academic throughout colombia and also there are few

and that's an easy question to also when is henry kissinger you're asking you. so i said yes. and he said, and then he went okay, there was a bit of back and forth. he was like, well the, the stuff you, bright is who lives, blah, blah, blah. but interesting, the often that i was attacked massively by the faculty itself. one of the they took us history mostly that will cover those left. exactly like the what i did was disgraceful and one came up to me often and said, you disgraced yourself the other day. i go by saying 0 support, but that is very um, telling about what columbia university's role it's, it's to whitewash and to support essentially american war criminals and make the actions seeing pop, what we're told is a liberal world order and a world of law and blah, blah blah. so the night with all normal exceptions, jeffrey sachs, i know victoria newland and hillary clinton are there at the moment. no jeffrey sites is amazing, but he's not in the journalism school. i'm talking specifically about it. does this? what is most of a great academic drug, columbia, and also there

and in his kissinger said they did it for educational reasons.they were trying to educate the american military. the soviet military, the american politics, soviet politics that there was something more than fighting with each other. the question i have then is have any of you given any thought, obviously, there's a lot of dual use technology and a lot of -- you know, military technology. but there are intergalactic space probes. there are, you know, space telescopes to look at distant galaxies things of that sort have you given any thought to the prospect of a u.s. chinese spectacular outer space, you know, cooperation that might set the stage for attitudes in both country which is is again what nixon and kissinger did with apollo it was a stunt and showed that there was a potential beyond war. thank you. >> thank you. and that's an excellent question. i wish one of us on the stage were a space expert here. but since we're not, i hope you'll -- hope you won't mind if i -- if i tailor your question a little bit to think about the moment maybe in

i know we got time then were going to q&a henry kissinger is used to say gemini questions from answers when you guys have got to loosen up at age 30. so, i knew you'd find this hard to believe but during the senate confirmation i said the next three years will determine the foundation of the next 30 years i thought it wasye a good sound bite. that's all i thought it was and pithy. i did not intend it to be pressing it and all the sudden that turned out to be that way. what i wanted to say here about the last three years is kind of a projection into the future other than i know you find this, on resting on laurels or anything like that. i really do think this is foundational to what we want to see. i kind of see it as a period of time where the alliance went so focused on internal and projecting into the region. a lot more people have forgotteo what i havee learned in three years. i would say was also fortuitous you had a president and administration very interested in putting some roots down. you had a country ready to poison take a different position, which is japan. for the first tim

but another newsweek contributor, i was there was a guy named henry kissinger and i he had more clouthan i did. so, you know we were working uphill to get over that. and you realized even though the washington post company, which owned newsweek, you know, had done watergate aid and they'd had this terrific success when they had a real adversarial, honest, adversarial patience with the nixon administration during the reagan, things changed. and i think people a lot of reporters fell prey to the glamor of the reagan administration. they hanging out that way. you know, when i was in my early career, one of my mentors was the late, great journalist, i.f. stone. and when i was around three or so, i was i was in washington and i was talking to him and breakfast with him once a week. and i told him i was going to a party and i was going see i think it was senator, senator teddy kennedy back then. he said, no, you're not. you start hanging out with them. you're to be carrying water for them. and, you know, the is i think it's all about to it up to today. it's about access and too many reporte

no one less than henry kissinger in 1975 told then-president nixon, if we don't return this canal, we'reng to lose in every international forum. we're going to have riots all over latin america. carter simply read correctly the decolonization moment, capitalized on it, and then as, as as peter just said, he paid the political price for that. but it was a principled move. and to attempt to take it back today, i'd like to ask you go find the maga constituency that's going to support another foreign war, because that is what it would take to get the canal back. >> and, you know, part of why we started and focused so much on this canal here is, of course, ambassador, former ambassador to panama. but it's a small aspect as far as the canal goes. and i guess one aspect, i should say in jimmy carter's legacy from his time as commander in chief and beyond, as well, and, peter, i guess both of you are very well informed, very well read, have had seen many of these events play out firsthand in again, the decades after, uh, after carter's presidency. but, peter, for you, i guess as people look to r

we remember kissinger when he sees the united states, most the money to buy cars and that was on is done to it should not be to make solve this. the cars is so it's the make many conflict and that was on from the, as of our taxes, some parties in this call, banks are due to buy some of places. where is the oil and gas a sheet tickets from this place is our and this is states i want to ask you also on the basis of this here of why you'll speaking to us from baghdad . it's obviously iraq is a country which has suffered a great deal over the last 2 decades and it went through periods where the world was hot and then it come down and then it re abrupt it then it was for, it was an um, syria has obviously been quite calm since 2020. why has it or up to its now a lot. it's very rarely abroad situation and save you because many consideration there for us consideration, a lot of problems that are established and syria essential for the next. you know, once the internal national security, if we remember, uh what size had been, were in the dash, it's a blow to charles and celia on this veiled over

i says, we remember kissinger when you say the united states must the money to that car is, isn't that was on the don't to, it should not be in make the solve this the cars is so it's a make many conflict and that was on the come uh, as of arctic sound birthdays in this conflict due to buy some of the places where is the oil and gas. the sheet tickets from this place is our and this is states as i can imagine, this is curious council session, qualitative of the events in syria. washington invite to the director of the controversial white helmets group to address the chain. but, well, the volunteer group is alleged to have links to terrorist organizations such as out in the thrust. and it's represent steps have been seen walking along 5 minutes. have also previously been pulled out, creating face the pool and staging rest to appraise the on the direct. so all of the wide helmets has suggested the organization would best represent syria, the un instead of the complement limits a couple of them. in general, i say to you is that the syrian people deserve to be represented by someone at thi

reporter the way kissinger to you know leak info and and that he wanted yeah that he he would we all knew that he was a senior state department or a senior national security official and we all knew as kissinger you know and that he would try and get information out his view. and then there were ones who hated us who thought we were trying to. that doesn't happen anymore, does it? ha ha ha ha ha. oh, boy. who thought we were, you know, after them and nixon felt that way when i was in california. jerry brown, that we were out to get him. okay. so rockefeller. rockefeller. understood that if reporter asked a tough question, he would give back a tough answer. and i love that. and he was also unfilled. he one time he gave the crowd the finger and and i thought, oh, what a good story. you know, he he was a a we called it the salute. and and he just he was a lot of fun. and he when he finally stepped down as a running mate for, gerald ford, he said, i won't have anybody to argue with anymore. yeah. and then do you remember how he died all of a sudden having a heart attack in and i thought

crisis on manage your cars, is in the world on the dawn to solve this a car, i says, we remember kissinger when he sees the united, the se mazda the money to the crisis. and that was on the go on to it should not be to make solve this, the cars is so it's a make many conflict in that was on come uh as of our take the sound birthdays in this conflict due to buy some of the places where is the oil on gas? the sheet tickets from this? places are in this is states as an emergency security council session cool. time for the events in syria. washington invited the direct solve the controversial white helmets group to address the chain. but now the moment a group is alleged to have links to terrorist organizations such as a mistrust, and as representatives have been seen watching alongside the minutes. they have been previously also quotes out, creating fake reports and staging restful price. the the, the directors of the white helmets has also suggested that the organization would best. so represent syria at the un. and the government itself might have to come home and get all i say to you is th

on the dawn to solve this, a crisis, we remember kissinger when he sees the united states, most of the money to that crisis. and that was on the go on to it should not be to make the solve this the cars is so it's a make many conflict. and that was on the come uh, as of our take the sound birthdays in this conflict due to buy some of the places where is the oil and gas, the sheet tickets from this place as our and this is states was in a much in security council session cold have uh the events in syria, washington invited the director of the birth control partial white helmets group to address the chain. but well, the voluntary group is alleged to have links to terrorist organizations like homeless trust. and his representatives have seen, seen walking alongside millison. they have also been previously caught out creating a report on stage of rescue operation the the well, the director of the white helmets has suggested that the organization would best to represent syria at the un. and the government itself limits a couple of them in general. i say to you is that the syrian people dese

this is a government which was the bulk of i envy, kissinger at the time of the bill, the well, the, the, the, the pre empting, things again they invoke that. you know what we do if there is, in fact, similar a tool to the 7. you know, they might, the you, the thing is, is to send a clear message to celia. there is an agreement in co ops because nothing happens with collapse is those you mean in the must goes and expect them to be towed to the agreement. then if the something happens to fix the empty and perhaps the eviction to ensure that there are no thoughts moving from celia, but right now there are no signs. so if anything of this, this happening, what do we see is mole mitchell kills when the notion is taking place. so they had an al jazeera, the last remaining residence lee, the strategic down across this, russian forces slowly advance and they send you frank and south korea as president banned from travelling abroad, one under investigations of trees in the in depth analysis of the days headlines. what are we supposed to read into the use of basically you miss all by russian

community that syria then laid by bus outside the son of half as a sad who had collaborated with henry kissinger during the nixon administration, had become one of america's best intelligence sources in the fight against all kind of, i don't agree, syria had been on the state department or is a list since 1979 and was considered by the bush administration to be a sponsor of state terrorism. at one point, the nation was publicly named by the white house to be a junior member of its infamous axis of evil, while it was providing much value to intelligence to the c i a let's discuss this with steve, gail and attorney on the phone with us right, officially joining us from nashville many thanks for joining us on the program. so what do you make of her? she's latest report. do you believe that sasha, all this nonsense father were engaged with the us and with, with the west of exchanging intelligence and made us a terms to isolate governments. i think the us and but you know the sides resume, we're both playing both sides against the middle. and frankly, acute is absolutely bizarre for meeting or the st

we remember kissinger when he sees the united states, most the money to the crisis and that was on the go on to it should not be is make solve this, the cars is so it's a make many conflict in that was on come the as of our take there is some parties in this conflict due to buy some of the places where is the oil on gas the sheet tickets from this place this hour. and this is states and emergency security council session cool time for the offense in syria, washington to invite to the director of the controversial white helmets group to address the chamber. i was going into a group is alleged to have links to terrorist organizations, such as our most trust and its representatives have been seen walking alongside militants. they have also previously been pulled out, creating fake reports of staging, rescue operations. the the dr. tells the white helmets has suggested that the organization would best uh, rep, present throughout the us. and then the government itself, the amount of the couple of them in general. i say to you is that the syrian people deserve to be represented by someone at

this is a government which was bulk of by henry kissinger, the time off the bill to bit well the, the, the, the pre empting things, again, they evolve. that's you know what we do if there is, in fact similar a tool to the 7. you know, they might, the you, the thing is, is to send a clue. my sister celia, there is an agreement. it doesn't collapse because nothing happens with the collapse is that as you mean in the schools and expect them to be towed to that agreement, then if there's something happens to faithfully empty preemptive action to ensure that there are no tubes moving from celia besides, now there are no signs, so if anything of this is happening, what we see is mole, mitchell kills when the motion is taking place. the kremlin says sylvia needs dialogue with regional powers to avoid instability. on sunday, the shuttle asset and his family were grunted asylum in russia. you're a shop of all of a small from moscow. the hi may, stacy red embassy in laska and you can see the position flag over the building right now. just the day before the flag of the syrian, our republic was

then one said give them kissinger instead. state of florida, a lot of people would visit miami or go to live there, from the east coast, or they would go to florida to vacation, and crime went up, people lost their lives , and that was because of castro opening up his prison gates, and it was thanks to carter to allow that we must not forget that. families lost their families from crime. i believe it was miami where there was high crime at that time. we must not forget the damage he did. he was the worst president. i believe cruz medic,, he said, oh, goodie, not the worst president ever, because we have biden. carter should never have been president, did a lot of damage to the country, and let's not forget the people that lost their lives in florida because of -- they called it something, castro let the prison gates and let all the criminals into america where they came to florida. so let's not forget that thank you for your time. thank you for c-span. host: that was irene in california. she said she thought former president c

and that's a 100 kissinger. but maybe the biggest brain was harming tongue. and harmon, con no basically said, here's, here's optically where is it gonna start? nobody's going to wake up on a sunny day. so nice. i think i'll fire off and you blow your weapon. he developed what he called the escrow tory louder was actually $54.00 step louder and you said what happens is 2 and tagging. this one does something provocative. the other one response, you know, in a more aggressive way. the 1st party, you know, raises the and the, and you keep going, getting more more violent or, or confrontational, and you don't realize it. you're climbing the escrow toy louder. you are climbing it ladder towards noon. so you're not elation by the way. they were to die and i was in the world today right now that are following the pattern that herman con, outlined in the early ninety's. sixty's one is ukraine. so again, without revisiting the whole history, you know us as sponsors occurring 2014, put and takes crimea. we get weapons to ukraine, put and engaged, done, boss. we start s

maybe you can make an argument for lena con or henry kissinger, john bolton. people who use their power to achieve their end efficiently, effectively, without a single-minded sensuousness. gary gensler, i would disagree with 80% or 90% of his rulemaking. upwards of 80% of his rulemakings were not specifically mandated by congress. it's a very active time. let me contrast the gensler regime to another way of particular republican way of being a chairman of the sec. wes hamilton had more property. -- more hypocrisy. do no harm, the motivating principle of the sec. there is a defense of that. chesterton defense to switch metaphors midstream. if that -- is that what you want to see? we have been looking at each other on this zoom call for an hour. president trump may appoint by twitter while we have been talking. this might be stale already. when thinking about what kind of man or woman you would like to see, what kind of chairman would you like to see a center-right conservative libertarian gensler type who comes in with a man on a mission, or something more of a

oh, that's a henry kissinger, but maybe the biggest brain was herman tongue. and herman con no basically said, here's here's optically, where's it going to start? nobody's going to wake up on a sunny day. so nice day think i'll fire off a nuclear weapon he developed. what he called the ask the jury louder, who is actually 54 step louder. and you said what happens is to antagonize one's or something. provocative the other one response, you know, in a more aggressive way. the 1st party raises the and the, and you keep going, getting more more violent or, or confrontational, and you don't realize it. you are climbing the escal jury. louder. you are climbing ladder towards nuclear annihilation. by the way, they were to die. and i was in the world today right now that are following the pattern that herman con, outlined in the early ninety's. sixty's one is ukraine. so again, without revisiting the whole history, you know us as sponsors occurring 2014, put and takes crimea. we get weapons to ukraine, put in uh, in days of done boss, we start signing, bradley fightin